[UPDATE: 4/2/12] PRL Information Thread

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Whosdaman

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I hear ya just that there are way too many variables present.
Just seems like a ton of work being done that the end result will be minor information as everyone might get different results for each prl bc it won't effect everyones area the same.

And as far as labeling the PRLs as networkvision ones, I hope for other devices these are not being used less It's stated these will not give them 800mhz capability alone...

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Well to my understanding...there are no 800 mhz towers yet. But 12117 and 11115 are not the same. There are differences.

And the effect should be huge. Phase 3 will be even bigger than phae 2, and phase 2 will be big for the general populous.
 

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For Future referance, i had tried a few of the verizon modified prls on my evo 3d and after a couple of months i got a letter from sprint saying that my data roaming was unacceptable and unless i remedy the situation, they will disconnect my line. I immediately went back to stock prl, which sucks.
Verizon modified worked flawlessly, 3g all the time everywhere. and i mean everywhere.
 

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Well to my understanding...there are no 800 mhz towers yet. But 12117 and 11115 are not the same. There are differences.

And the effect should be huge. Phase 3 will be even bigger than phae 2, and phase 2 will be big for the general populous.

Phases? You lost me there.

There are fully operational NV towers up right now BUT sprint I think still has to repurpose the 800MHz for its new use before actually doing it.

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Phases? You lost me there.

There are fully operational NV towers up right now BUT sprint I think still has to repurpose the 800MHz for its new use before actually doing it.

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Right, and phases are part of the project itself.

And why was this moved? It is development... And it's cdma only

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Right, and phases are part of the project itself.

And why was this moved? It is development... And it's cdma only

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Phases of what project exactly? This one your doing?

If your talking NetworkVision I would like to hear what you claim these phases are consisted of exactly...


And it was likely moved because its not really development. There is no coding going on or even close to it really. So the mod had right to move.
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I'm in the exact same boat. I applied 0002 last night and am amazed at the coverage I have today. Full 6 bars and 3g in places I had little or no service. I wish I could stay on this prl




For Future referance, i had tried a few of the verizon modified prls on my evo 3d and after a couple of months i got a letter from sprint saying that my data roaming was unacceptable and unless i remedy the situation, they will disconnect my line. I immediately went back to stock prl, which sucks.
Verizon modified worked flawlessly, 3g all the time everywhere. and i mean everywhere.



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Phases of what project exactly? This one your doing?

If your talking NetworkVision I would like to hear what you claim these phases are consisted of exactly...


And it was likely moved because its not really development. There is no coding going on or even close to it really. So the mod had right to move.
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If you are trolling please leave. If you can't understand what is going on then say so.

The phases are of this project. When did I talk about network vision. And I know the phases for. NetworkVision too, I work for Sprint. So if you want to make this about you then leave.

There is numerous amounts of coding going into this. You have no idea and I cannot comment at this time on the details of the coding aspect of this project.

But I will say public and private alike matter alot to this project. I need full participation. If you don't want to, that's fine and I respect you decision. You will still benefit from this project nonetheless.

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If you are trolling please leave. If you can't understand what is going on then say so.

The phases are of this project. When did I talk about network vision. And I know the phases for. NetworkVision too, I work for Sprint. So if you want to make this about you then leave.

There is numerous amounts of coding going into this. You have no idea and I cannot comment at this time on the details of the coding aspect of this project.

But I will say public and private alike matter alot to this project. I need full participation. If you don't want to, that's fine and I respect you decision. You will still benefit from this project nonetheless.

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Check my history I don't troll and am very knowledgeable here.

So next time please don't try to strike an attitude with me when i was merely offering a suggestion as to why it got moved.
Mods are not likely to keep your thread in the dev section unless you show you are actually developing something. If your coding stuff and can't explain then that's your right but its the mods right to move a thread if it looks like research pretty much and no development.

The network vision I know pretty deeply about and is why I brought it up when you labors PRLs as networkvision PRLs. As i just wanted to comment that some ppl here will take that as they can put that prl on their phone whatever it may be and get networkvision benefits which is not the case.

No need to tote the "i work for sprint" line as many here do and it doesn't mean much depending on what exactly your role is to be honest.


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Check my history I don't troll and am very knowledgeable here.

So next time please don't try to strike an attitude with me when i was merely offering a suggestion as to why it got moved.
Mods are not likely to keep your thread in the dev section unless you show you are actually developing something. If your coding stuff and can't explain then that's your right but its the mods right to move a thread if it looks like research pretty much and no development.

The network vision I know pretty deeply about and is why I brought it up when you labors PRLs as networkvision PRLs. As i just wanted to comment that some ppl here will take that as they can put that prl on their phone whatever it may be and get networkvision benefits which is not the case.

No need to tote the "i work for sprint" line as many here do and it doesn't mean much depending on what exactly your role is to be honest.


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I know everything there is to know about Network Vision that is necessary and that's that. Like I said if you want to help out you're more than welcomed to.

Many on here may work for sprint, but none I'm the position I'm in, nor have the resources I have at my disposal. I have been a huge asset for all sprint devices for years. This is a new project I'm working on for others to benefit from.

But when my thread I the epic touch section was moved from general to development, that makes me ask why.

And I don't think you have any idea who I am and who I originally was, and I don't think you care. And that is likewise. End of discussion.

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Look I don't mean to come off as ****, I'm sorry. But you do not understand the complexity of what is going on. I can't reveal it at this time due to confidential information being used, but when it is released (around the end of phase 2) it will benefit all Sprint users, (Network Vision and non-NV device alike)
 

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I know everything there is to know about Network Vision that is necessary and that's that. Like I said if you want to help out you're more than welcomed to.

Many on here may work for sprint, but none I'm the position I'm in, nor have the resources I have at my disposal. I have been a huge asset for all sprint devices for years. This is a new project I'm working on for others to benefit from.

But when my thread I the epic touch section was moved from general to development, that makes me ask why.

And I don't think you have any idea who I am and who I originally was, and I don't think you care. And that is likewise. End of discussion.

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"...who I originally was..."?? okay

anyway just calm down kid.

if you have issue with your thread being moved, its very simple in the end. contact the moderator who moved it or one of the mods in charge of this forum. its that simple.
 

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"...who I originally was..."?? okay

anyway just calm down kid.

if you have issue with your thread being moved, its very simple in the end. contact the moderator who moved it or one of the mods in charge of this forum. its that simple.

I already did way before the original post. Look up "Whosdaman" kid...seriously very immature of you to say that in a condensing way. I don't understand what your beef is...
 

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I can see where he is coming from being a sprint user. This has no bearing on me as I use it for metro pcs. Although I have been following just to see. The fact that you dont even own this device and come with this "top secret" prl mission just seems strange. It seems like a hell of a lot of work for people to do. And there is way too many variables to possibly get accurate statistics off of. Not to mention basing speed test off of ookla speedtest.net app. Is terrible and not accurate at all. If you want better accurate results use open signal maps. Not only will it give you more reliable results it will tell you exactly what tower your connected to down to the towers id network id, cid and neighboring cid.

Jmo give whatever info you can to the folks that are willing to go thru this process. Not just that it would benifit them that's usually the point of a testing project. Maybe there would be less negative feedback if they knew your intentions. Just leave the "top secret" stuff out. :)

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I can see where he is coming from being a sprint user. This has no bearing on me as I use it for metro pcs. Although I have been following just to see. The fact that you dont even own this device and come with this "top secret" prl mission just seems strange. It seems like a hell of a lot of work for people to do. And there is way too many variables to possibly get accurate statistics off of. Not to mention basing speed test off of ookla speedtest.net app. Is terrible and not accurate at all. If you want better accurate results use open signal maps. Not only will it give you more reliable results it will tell you exactly what tower your connected to down to the towers id network id, cid and neighboring cid.

Jmo give whatever info you can to the folks that are willing to go thru this process. Not just that it would benifit them that's usually the point of a testing project. Maybe there would be less negative feedback if they knew your intentions. Just leave the "top secret" stuff out. :)

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The intentions are to see which PRLs are giving the best results. What more is there? I use to own the EVO 3D. I started this project on the Epic 4G TOuch, which is the device I currently own, but I needed to extend this to EVO 3D in order to get more users ,especially for a Network Vision Ready Device.

Look, if people don't like this, then they don't have to say anything. That's fine, they will benefit nonetheless from this project. This is suppose to be a community project whever everyone could get involved. This was a project of mine for months but I finally opened it to the public to get people involved. Thanks it.
 
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I already did way before the original post. Look up "Whosdaman" kid...seriously very immature of you to say that in a condensing way. I don't understand what your beef is...

Didn't mean it in a condenseding way bud, use the term all the time for those younger, not ment in a bad way in the slightest. My apologies if it was taken that way.
I have zero beef and i vividly remember discussions with whosdaman long ago before the 3D was released along with popularnobody talking about all things network related.

Again zero beef bud, moving on.

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Didn't mean it in a condenseding way bud, use the term all the time for those younger, not ment in a bad way in the slightest. My apologies if it was taken that way.
I have zero beef and i vividly remember discussions with whosdaman long ago before the 3D was released along with popularnobody talking about all things network related.

Again zero beef bud, moving on.

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Okay thank you. Apology accepted. It's all good.

As soon as phase 1 is over in the private testing (1 Month), I will be releasing new information to everyone. But until then, this biggest help is to test the currently PRLs we have available so we can get a good baseline.

I know... it's not perfect, it never will be. I don't have resources like CiQ where I can speed test thousands of users at once by myself. I have to rely on user input here. I can test in Gainesville, FL all I want and get all these great results, but it doesn't mean anything to a guy in New York City, or Tulsa, or San Fran, or Alaska! :p
 

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I added my data to the list. FYI, anyone living in the Colorado Springs area, 21085 is the best I found. Any ideas on how to boost it up to a meg?

PRL - Ping - Download- Upload
00002 - 275ms - 512kbps - 319kbps
11115 - 574ms - 269kbps - 449kbps
12117 - 629ms - 179kbps - 613kbps
21085 - 150ms - 796kbps - 794kbps
60685 - 173ms - 394kbps - 472kbps
 

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I added my data to the list. FYI, anyone living in the Colorado Springs area, 21085 is the best I found. Any ideas on how to boost it up to a meg?

PRL - Ping - Download- Upload
00002 - 275ms - 512kbps - 319kbps
11115 - 574ms - 269kbps - 449kbps
12117 - 629ms - 179kbps - 613kbps
21085 - 150ms - 796kbps - 794kbps
60685 - 173ms - 394kbps - 472kbps

LOL Drive around. Here in the Metro Area one block the signal sucks the next you are getting 2.6 Mbps :confused:
 

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Dial ##3282# go to data profile/dss proxy server address write those numbers down. Then change it to 0.0.0.0 which is a dynamic setting and been known to improve speeds. After you change hit menu commit modifications phone will reboot and test it out. If it doesn't help you can always change it back.

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    Before I go into the full details of the project, let's go over what a PRL is, what it does, and why it matters to you.

    What Really is a PRL?

    "The Preferred Roaming List (PRL) is a database residing in a wireless (primarily CDMA) device, such as a cellphone, that contains information used during the system selection and acquisition process. In the case of R-UIM-based CDMA devices, the PRL resides on the R-UIM. The PRL indicates which bands, sub bands and service provider identifiers will be scanned and in what priority order. Without a PRL, the device may not be able to roam, i.e. obtain service outside of the home area. There may be cases where missing or corrupt PRL's can lead to a customer not having service at all.

    On many networks, regularly updating the PRL is advised if the subscriber uses the device outside the home area frequently, particularly if they do so in multiple different areas. This allows the phone to choose the best roaming carriers, particularly "roaming partners" with whom the home carrier has a cost-saving roaming agreement, rather than using non-affiliated carriers. PRL files can also be used to identify home networks along with roaming partners, thus making the PRL an actual list that determines the total coverage of the subscriber, both home and roaming coverage."

    Source: Wikipedia

    TLDR: The PRL tells a device what towers to connect to, which frequency to search on, and in what order to connect to them. This includes "on" and "off" network towers. PRLs do not effect 4G WiMax performance.

    Why Should I Care?

    The PRL directly effects the coverage you receive and the data speed performance of your device. Ensuring you have the latest PRL is critical to maintaining the best signal your device will get. However, there are a few "special" PRLs we can use in order to gain access to hidden features, such as 3G data roaming.

    So What is This About?

    I'm glad you asked. I've been working on this for a few months now and I'm now ready to go public in order to gain more statistical data from my fellow peers. I have a collection of PRLs that I have rigorously tested to see which ones give me the best performance. This isn't enough. I need real world testing for as many members as I can get.

    While I can't give the full details of my project away yet, let me assure you it will benefit everyone on Sprint. Phase 1 of my project has already started and here is how you can contribute:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArqBGjrbNosddGR3OURoNnJLdTlTaEo1RmVEYjdVNlE

    The above document is open to everyone and can be edited by everyone. This spreadsheet will be used to compile data from everyone's usage of the PRLs available to us. Check the bottom of the file for sheet of each individual PRL. Each one has it's own sheet. Just add your data for which ever PRL you are testing.

    The tool accepted for measuring data speed is Speedtest.net. They are the industries leader in speed testing, and it is a very reliable application.

    If the PRL you are testing isn't there, I have included a template sheet so you can make your own sheet. Please stick to the format and be honest. This project is for everyone to benefit from, so don't ruin it for anyone. Also be sure you are adding your raw data to the correct PRL sheet. Little mistake like that can skew the data. Please test "Home" and "Roam" equally, I am trying to obtain the best performing PRL overall. I want to repeat that 4G WiMax is not effected by PRL, so do not include 4G in your testing.

    Be impartial, be true, be consistent, and most of all be precise. If you notice something is wrong, fix it. You can chat inside the document. Just check the top right hand side for the people viewing the document. I will check this document often and update it regularly.

    I have included the primary PRLs for testing in the 2nd post, and instructions how to manually update your PRL from a PC in the 3rd post. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask away.

    [UPDATE: 3/4/12]
    - Closed private testing
    - Added ##3432# to 3rd post

    [UPDATE: 3/6/12]
    - Revised 3rd Post
    - Added Nexus S 4G support
    - Added Disclaimer to 2nd Post about Network Vision PRLs

    [UPDATE: 4/2/12]
    - Phase 1 of private testing is through. Haven't posted results yet
    - Added new updated version of PRLs in 2nd post
    - Updated guides in 3rd post
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    PRL Information

    Mobile Broadband Corporate Sprint PRL
    - 11115 (Outdated)
    - 11117 (Outdated)
    - 11119

    Mobile Broadband Corporate Sprint PRL for Network Vision*
    - 12117 (Outdated)
    - 12119

    Corporate Sprint PRL
    - 61085

    Corporate Sprint PRL for Network Vision*
    - 22085

    Sprint PRL for Network Vision*
    - 21083 (Outdated)
    - 21085 (Outdated)
    - 21086

    Sprint PRL
    - 60683 (Outdated)
    - 60685 (Outdated)
    - 60686

    Modified Verizon PRL
    - 00001 (Outdated)
    - 00002

    * If your device is not a "Network Vision Ready" device, these PRLs will not change that fact. It does not hurt to test these as they might improve the performance of your device.
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    PRL 12121

    Here is the latest Corporate PRL 12121...
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    How to Update PRL Manually:

    You must have your respected device's drivers installed prior to starting.

    1. Download and Install QPST 2.7 - Build 366
    2. Open QPST Configuration in the "QPST" folder under Programs
    3. Disable debugging on your device
    4. Type one of the following codes in you respected device's dialer and switch to "CP" or "Modem"
      • Epic 4G Touch: ##8778#
      • HTC EVO 3D: ##3424#
      • Nexus S 4G: *#*#8778#*#*
    5. Plug in your device
    6. Click on the “Ports” tab and “Add a new port”
    7. Select the “COMXX – USB\QC Diagnostic” and click ok. If you don’t see a port, uncheck the box for "Show Serial and USB/QC Diagnostic ports only" and add all of the USB/Unknown ports. One of them should show an active phone.
    8. Click “Start Clients” on the top of the program and open Service Programming
    9. Select your device
    10. Click "Read from Phone" and enter "000000"
    11. Click the "Roam" tab
    12. Click "Browse" and select the PRL you wish to use
    13. Click "Write to Phone"
    14. Phone should reboot with the PRL you specified

    How to Pull PRL From Device:

    You must have your respected device's drivers installed prior to starting.

    1. Download and Install QPST 2.7 - Build 366
    2. Open QPST Configuration in the "QPST" folder under Programs
    3. Disable debugging on your device
    4. Type one of the following codes in you respected device's dialer and switch to "CP" or "Modem"
      • Epic 4G Touch: ##8778#
      • HTC EVO 3D: ##3424#
      • Nexus S 4G: *#*#8778#*#*
    5. Plug in your device
    6. Click on the “Ports” tab and “Add a new port”
    7. Select the “COMXX – USB\QC Diagnostic” and click ok. If you don’t see a port, uncheck the box for "Show Serial and USB/QC Diagnostic ports only" and add all of the USB/Unknown ports. One of them should show an active phone.
    8. Click “Start Clients” on the top of the program and open Service Programming
    9. Select your device
    10. Click "Read from Phone" and enter "000000" or your MSL
    11. Click "Save to File" and save the file
    12. Open RL Editor in the QPST folder
    13. Go to "File" then "Open" and navigate to the location where you saved the file
    14. Open the .r0l file
    15. Go to "File" then "Save As" and save the file as a .prl file type.

    If either are unclear in any way, please let me know.
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    New PRL 12124

    Attached is the latest PRL 12124.