Bluetooth 4.0 issue!! please star this to get googles attention to fix this!!

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http://code.google.com/p/android/iss...ummary%20Stars

We need bluetooth 4.0 to be activated...too many products are becoming available that use this and we are not able to. Its not just us galaxy nexus ownners either..its even the new nexus and galaxy notes. Pass this along so we can get as many people to make this a priority for google to fix!

Originally Posted by newtonfb

http://code.google.com/p/android/iss...ummary%20Stars

We need bluetooth 4.0 to be activated...too many products are becoming available that use this and we are not able to. Its not just us galaxy nexus ownners either..its even the new nexus and galaxy notes. Pass this along so we can get as many people to make this a priority for google to fix!

Too bad. Google never gonna do it, good luck finding devs that will, it's not worth the frustration.

Originally Posted by gnustomp

Too bad. Google never gonna do it, good luck finding devs that will, it's not worth the frustration.

Howd you know that? Any sources?

Re: Bluetooth 4.0 issue!! please star this to get googles attention to fix this!!

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Originally Posted by DasEtwas

Howd you know that? Any sources?

If Google wanted BT 4 on the phone they would have released it with it. They aren't found going to this for a phone they'll be dropping support for soon anyway.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Why? I mean honestly...why? What devices out there truly support the full advantages of Bluetooth 4.0 (meaning BLE) that you would actually use on your phone? Name us 5 actual, reasonable, affordable, and available devices that would interest the community which support BT4.0+BLE. Because I would love to know. (and no offense but heart monitors don't count)

To my understanding BT4.0 only brings BLE if the chip used supports BLE. This is an optional feature; not just automatically included. Remember...there is a difference between a device having Bluetooth 4.0 and having Bluetooth 4.0 BLE. (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

I've read a couple different articles and posts going back and forth on whether or not the chip inside the Galaxy Nexus truly supports BT 4.0+BLE or is just BT 4.0 compatible without BLE capabilities. And even if it does...odds are the next Nexus device will run Android 5.0 with full BT4.0+BLE support (pure speculation on my part, just running the odds). I would rather Google engineers be working on that - than a phone that was meant for developers....not actually a flagship device as everyone wants to claim. (This is my opinion on the matter)

Just because a device has the markings of Bluetooth 4.0 doesn't mean it automatically get's all the advantages of BLE. The device must specifically state that it supports BLE. And so far, I haven't really seen anything on the market that supports BLE that makes me go:
"Holy crap, I need this product...we must have this on our phone now!"

This same marketing scheme was addressed with BT 3.0 and 3.0+HS (AKA 3.1). Everyone slapped on BT 3.0 numbers but didn't include 3.0+HS on the product. Creates product hype and people will buy it without doing research.

Why? So that we can play with devices like this:

http://www.indiegogo.com/meterplug/x/1655370?c=home

Originally Posted by sola fide

Why? I mean honestly...why? What devices out there truly support the full advantages of Bluetooth 4.0 (meaning BLE) that you would actually use on your phone? Name us 5 actual, reasonable, affordable, and available devices that would interest the community which support BT4.0+BLE. Because I would love to know. (and no offense but heart monitors don't count)

This same marketing scheme was addressed with BT 3.0 and 3.0+HS (AKA 3.1). Everyone slapped on BT 3.0 numbers but didn't include 3.0+HS on the product. Creates product hype and people will buy it without doing research.

Re: Bluetooth 4.0 issue!! please star this to get googles attention to fix this!!

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Originally Posted by id628

Why? So that we can play with devices like this:

http://www.indiegogo.com/meterplug/x/1655370?c=home

Notice it says Bluetooth 4.0....and does not mention BLE. Meaning it's backwards compatible with Bluetooth 3.0 and the differences without BLE are minimal for this type of device. So....basically no need for 4.0 implementation on the Galaxy Nexus to use this toy.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Yet another one is the Motes system: http://igg.me/at/motes/x/1655370

Another one is all the new automatic door locks. The list is growing quickly if you look at Indiegogo and Kickstarter...

Originally Posted by sola fide

Why? I mean honestly...why? What devices out there truly support the full advantages of Bluetooth 4.0 (meaning BLE) that you would actually use on your phone? Name us 5 actual, reasonable, affordable, and available devices that would interest the community which support BT4.0+BLE. Because I would love to know. (and no offense but heart monitors don't count)

To my understanding BT4.0 only brings BLE if the chip used supports BLE. This is an optional feature; not just automatically included. Remember...there is a difference between a device having Bluetooth 4.0 and having Bluetooth 4.0 BLE. (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

I've read a couple different articles and posts going back and forth on whether or not the chip inside the Galaxy Nexus truly supports BT 4.0+BLE or is just BT 4.0 compatible without BLE capabilities. And even if it does...odds are the next Nexus device will run Android 5.0 with full BT4.0+BLE support (pure speculation on my part, just running the odds). I would rather Google engineers be working on that - than a phone that was meant for developers....not actually a flagship device as everyone wants to claim. (This is my opinion on the matter)

Just because a device has the markings of Bluetooth 4.0 doesn't mean it automatically get's all the advantages of BLE. The device must specifically state that it supports BLE. And so far, I haven't really seen anything on the market that supports BLE that makes me go:
"Holy crap, I need this product...we must have this on our phone now!"

This same marketing scheme was addressed with BT 3.0 and 3.0+HS (AKA 3.1). Everyone slapped on BT 3.0 numbers but didn't include 3.0+HS on the product. Creates product hype and people will buy it without doing research.

Originally Posted by id628

Yet another one is the Motes system: http://igg.me/at/motes/x/1655370

Another one is all the new automatic door locks. The list is growing quickly if you look at Indiegogo and Kickstarter...

Yes, 6 months later the Indiegogo and Kickstarter projects are beginning. And the list is beginning to grow. However, there is still no confirmation, that I've seen, that the SGN has 4.0+BLE. We've only seen that it has a chip with 4.0 capability. Without BLE support, the access to 4.0 won't be as advantageous for all these new devices as some might think.

Plus, how long will it take for these new jump-start companies/devices to be funded, and complete, and available? It took almost a year for the Pebble watch and CooKoo watch to finally be released to investors. This Fall the SGN will be 2 years old. Around the corner is another rumored Nexus Device. How much manpower is Google going to actually devote to the software development in the Galaxy Nexus in future upgrade releases? I hope it will be there; but probably not a lot. The focus right now is the Nexus 4 and whatever the next gen Nexus device is. I'm not arguing against the addition of 4.0 (and hopefully 4.0+BLE) software upgrades to the SGN; but I think users making a demand for it at this point is a little over the top.

If Android 4.3 does indeed have the support for BT 4.0 as rumored you'll find out if it actually has BLE or not. If it doesn't...you're just gaining the newest Bluetooth stack without any of the power savings (maybe some slight power savings)....which might (or might not) work with all these new creations.