Will the ROM and Kernel sources be released?

nitrobg · Apr 26, 2014

Assuming that the phone would be loaded with the partially closed-source Cyanogen, are there any official news whether the kernel or the ROM itself would be released as sources so we can get proper open-sourced ROMs going?

xenix96 · Apr 26, 2014

nitrobg said:
Assuming that the phone would be loaded with the partially closed-source Cyanogen, are there any official news whether the kernel or the ROM itself would be released as sources so we can get proper open-sourced ROMs going?

Android is open source...
So you ever saw cm without source?

Even samsung htc and such have to release the sources cause of GPL.

Cheers

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nitrobg · Apr 26, 2014

This is just a wishful thinking. Do you have any official information about that or you are just guessing?
OnePlus One uses a derivative of CM, not an official build.

xenix96 · Apr 26, 2014

nitrobg said:
This is just a wishful thinking. Do you have any official information about that or you are just guessing?
OnePlus One uses a derivative of CM, not an official build.

I dont guess. If you know androids nature with Open GPL then you should know that. Try open general puplic licence = open gpl in google search engine then you will receive the detail what this exatly means.

The rom supplier has to release the source or atleast the git hub of its code. Otherewhise he violating the open geneal public licenses of android.

I think this helps you a bit more in understanding the android nature.

Cheers

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KostasR · Apr 26, 2014

xenix96 said:
I dont guess. If you know androids nature with Open GPL then you should know that. Try open general puplic licence = open gpl in google search engine then you will receive the detail what this exatly means.

The rom supplier has to release the source or atleast the git hub of its code. Otherewhise he violating the open geneal public licenses of android.

I think this helps you a bit more in understanding the android nature.

Cheers

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I know its totally irrelevant but in your signature you write "Powerd by Google Jelly Bean 4.4.2 --->DOWNLOAD "

You probably mean kitkat :victory:

nitrobg · Apr 26, 2014

xenix96 said:
I dont guess. If you know androids nature with Open GPL then you should know that. Try open general puplic licence = open gpl in google search engine then you will receive the detail what this exatly means.

The rom supplier has to release the source or atleast the git hub of its code. Otherewhise he violating the open geneal public licenses of android.

I think this helps you a bit more in understanding the android nature.

Cheers

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I know everything about Android's open source nature and its GPL licensing. I think that you are missing my point here.

Many small companies consider the GPL as voluntary rather than mandatory because there is no legal prosecutions for breaking the GPL license. The company might get frowned upon and some power users / developers would be upset, but generally the end user doesn't care, nor the company does because they won't have to go to the court for breaking the GPL.

This is what most Chinese companies do for their current phones. Samsung, Motorola, HTC also didn't provide full sources until the past 1-2 years. Only Sony and Google's Nexus line were the companies who provided full sources on time.

This being said, only the time will tell if OnePlus would comply the GPL license of its device or will follow the path to ignore the licenses.

xenix96 · Apr 26, 2014

KostasR said:
I know its totally irrelevant but in your signature you write "Powerd by Google Jelly Bean 4.4.2 --->DOWNLOAD "

You probably mean kitkat :victory:

lol true i forgot to change that ^^ thanks man will do asap when fire up pc

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nitrobg said:
I know everything about Android's open source nature and its GPL licensing. I think that you are missing my point here.

Many small companies consider the GPL as voluntary rather than mandatory because there is no legal prosecutions for breaking the GPL license. The company might get frowned upon and some power users / developers would be upset, but generally the end user doesn't care, nor the company does because they won't have to go to the court for breaking the GPL.

This is what most Chinese companies do for their current phones. Samsung, Motorola, HTC also didn't provide full sources until the past 1-2 years. Only Sony and Google's Nexus line were the companies who provided full sources on time.

This being said, only the time will tell if OnePlus would comply the GPL license of its device or will follow the path to ignore the licenses.

Okay i know now what you mean but the kernel they have all to release.
So if you got kernel you can compile from google source the vanilia rom for any device but only if got the knowelege to do that...i failed in this

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xabierd · Apr 26, 2014

IMHO Its probable that rom will be open source but camera app , gallery, messaging app and some others could be closed source just as google does.

ccarr313 · Apr 27, 2014

The rom and kernel HAVE to be open source. Apps don't. End of story. If they do not release the source, google can sue the holy living hell out of them and make them wish they never stepped up.

nitrobg · Apr 27, 2014

ccarr313 said:
The rom and kernel HAVE to be open source. Apps don't. End of story. If they do not release the source, google can sue the holy living hell out of them and make them wish they never stepped up.

How many lawsuits for breaking the Android's GPL have you seen?

Entropy512 · Apr 27, 2014

ccarr313 said:
The rom and kernel HAVE to be open source. Apps don't. End of story. If they do not release the source, google can sue the holy living hell out of them and make them wish they never stepped up.

Wrong. Only the kernel and small parts of the firmware package have to be open source.

The majority of Android isn't GPL - it's Apache.

korg91 · Apr 29, 2014

Entropy512 is right.

Guys, seriously, everything is explained even on Wikipedia:

The source code for Android is open source. Google publishes most of the code (including network and telephony stacks) under the non-copyleft Apache License version 2.0. which allows modification and redistribution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Licensing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft

Therefore, the original question by nitrobg is interesting indeed.

voetbalremco · Apr 29, 2014

Oppo used to give free the sources for their devices, so that should be fine.
Asking this question is relevant because a lot of the chinese companies don't, however that is mostly because of the not so GPL compliant MediaTek.

Hellscythe · Apr 30, 2014

xenix96 said:
Android is open source...
So you ever saw cm without source?

Even samsung htc and such have to release the sources cause of GPL.

Cheers

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Android is open source.
Touchwiz and sense are closed source for the same reasons why parts of the OnePlus firmware are closed source.

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