[Q] T-Mobile LG Optimus F3 Forum?

shiftylock · Aug 12, 2013

Okay, so I know this phone doesn't exactly win the spec war, but it's awesome and would make a fantastic rooted phone. Unfortunately there isn't a forum here on XDA for the device (either because it's too new or there isn't a demand for it)

Do you guys think a forum will be made for this device? It'd be nice to at least have a place to say what root methods DON'T work (I've tried a few)

Thanks for the help, XDA rules!

yutzyscott · Sep 3, 2013

Another one

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yutzyscott · Sep 3, 2013

One more

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jjfad · Sep 5, 2013

+1 vote for an F3 forum

inyourface09 · Sep 7, 2013

More good news and more bad news

Good news first, djrbliss (creator of Motochopper) has added loki support for the f3. Should work on all variants seeing as the aboot should be the same.
Bad news even with a "loki'd" recovery you still get a factory reset when entering recovery (no matter what).

We are at the same place as the LG Motion, we are tracking down the flag that causes this. Once we do everything will be good. Just finding this flag that it sets to the partitions could take some time.

Also please be sure to thank djrbliss for adding support I personally cant thank him enough.
Once we do "find" this said flag we should be able to modify the recovery to overwrite it to stop the resets.

firered365 · Sep 7, 2013

inyourface09 said:
Good news first, djrbliss (creator of Motochopper) has added loki support for the f3. Should work on all variants seeing as the aboot should be the same.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is Loki and will it affect the phone?

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inyourface09 · Sep 7, 2013

Loki is a security bypass created by djrbliss, when you "edit" a recovery or boot image before flashing it, it changes the header to overwrite the "security" that checks if the image is stock or not. and this allows for an insecure boot. So that even with a locked bootloader we can still flash a recovery that will work.
The only issue is that we need to track down a flag that is written to the partitions once you enter recovery to stop the factory reset that takes place.

In the stock recovery you can enter it without having a factory reset, but with the cwm one that i flashed once you enter recovery it sets the flag. Then once you reboot to system it wipes data and cache automatically. This is the same problem that the LG Motion has.

https://github.com/djrbliss/loki

richardpwnsner · Sep 7, 2013

inyourface09 said:
Good news first, djrbliss (creator of Motochopper) has added loki support for the f3. Should work on all variants seeing as the aboot should be the same.
Bad news even with a "loki'd" recovery you still get a factory reset when entering recovery (no matter what).

We are at the same place as the LG Motion, we are tracking down the flag that causes this. Once we do everything will be good. Just finding this flag that it sets to the partitions could take some time.

Also please be sure to thank djrbliss for adding support I personally cant thank him enough.
Once we do "find" this said flag we should be able to modify the recovery to overwrite it to stop the resets.

Yowza! Great work, guys! Can't tell you how glad I am to hear this. Experimenting is a lot more stressful now that I'm outside the return window

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firered365 · Sep 8, 2013

inyourface09 said:
Loki is a security bypass created by djrbliss, when you "edit" a recovery or boot image before flashing it, it changes the header to overwrite the "security" that checks if the image is stock or not. and this allows for an insecure boot. So that even with a locked bootloader we can still flash a recovery that will work.
The only issue is that we need to track down a flag that is written to the partitions once you enter recovery to stop the factory reset that takes place.

In the stock recovery you can enter it without having a factory reset, but with the cwm one that i flashed once you enter recovery it sets the flag. Then once you reboot to system it wipes data and cache automatically. This is the same problem that the LG Motion has.

https://github.com/djrbliss/loki

I read the github file and I see that you have to "extract" (or something like adb pull) the file and put in the .lok file. Even after this, it will still trigger the flag still, right? Did y'all dump at the kernel files?

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richardpwnsner · Sep 9, 2013

inyourface09 said:
Loki is a security bypass created by djrbliss, when you "edit" a recovery or boot image before flashing it, it changes the header to overwrite the "security" that checks if the image is stock or not. and this allows for an insecure boot. So that even with a locked bootloader we can still flash a recovery that will work.
The only issue is that we need to track down a flag that is written to the partitions once you enter recovery to stop the factory reset that takes place.

In the stock recovery you can enter it without having a factory reset, but with the cwm one that i flashed once you enter recovery it sets the flag. Then once you reboot to system it wipes data and cache automatically. This is the same problem that the LG Motion has.

https://github.com/djrbliss/loki

A couple questions—(1) will I need to make any tweaks for the T-Mobile F3 (P659BK); and (2) does the factory reset restore the stock recovery, or the replacement recovery sans data? If the latter, then I'm all in this evening; nothing I can't put back myself

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theskeemer · Sep 14, 2013

habitforming said:
I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)

First off, I pledge $25 to anybody who posts step by step instructions for installing a working custom recovery on this device. Thanks to everybody working on this.

For those in the process of rooting, I wasted a little time looking for the drivers and for a motochopper link verified to work on this device. To help others out here is exactly what I did.

Googled "LG Mobile Support Tool" and downloaded it from softpedia. The file is suspiciously labled B2CAppSetup.exe but it turned out to be the correct software needed to install the LG drivers.
Googled "motochopper" and used the first link (Galaxy S4) for both the download and instructions http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40747604.
The first run of motochopper installed SU, but failed to achieve root. A second attempt did the trick!

To anybody considering this device, I was pleasantly surprised. The stock rom and launcher are really good and responsive. It has a big battery and a small screen so the battery life is fantastic! The lack of memory is an issue, but I have not found it to be a problem. I have 30 apps installed with room for at least 10 more.
Cheers,

theskeemer · Sep 14, 2013

Also, go to this link to lobby for an LG Optimus F3 P659 forum http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1660354 .

richardpwnsner · Sep 14, 2013

Agreed--I've been evangelizing motochopper here and elsewhere when someone asks, but I tend to forget to link/explain.

To those wondering, you can get it from the horse's mouth http://vulnfactory.org/public/motochopper.zip. As already noted, you'll also need the USB drivers (just plug in your phone, there should be an auto-installer). Finally, as with most roots, remember to enable USB debugging and set your phone to software mode under developer options and pc connection respectively.

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dschach · Sep 14, 2013

theskeemer said:
First off, I pledge $25 to anybody who posts step by step instructions for installing a working custom recovery on this device. Thanks to everybody working on this.

For those in the process of rooting, I wasted a little time looking for the drivers and for a motochopper link verified to work on this device. To help others out here is exactly what I did.

Googled "LG Mobile Support Tool" and downloaded it from softpedia. The file is suspiciously labled B2CAppSetup.exe but it turned out to be the correct software needed to install the LG drivers.

Googled "motochopper" and used the first link (Galaxy S4) for both the download and instructions http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40747604.

The first run of motochopper installed SU, but failed to achieve root. A second attempt did the trick!

To anybody considering this device, I was pleasantly surprised. The stock rom and launcher are really good and responsive. It has a big battery and a small screen so the battery life is fantastic! The lack of memory is an issue, but I have not found it to be a problem. I have 30 apps installed with room for at least 10 more.
Cheers,

Once you have root, install the following apps from the play store

1. aparted (also install busybox which is required by aparted)
2. link2sd

With aparted you can create a second partition on the sd card. With link2sd you can install or move any app onto the second partition.

firered365 · Sep 14, 2013

dschach said:
Once you have root, install the following apps from the play store

1. aparted (also install busybox which is required by aparted)
2. link2sd

With aparted you can create a second partition on the sd card. With link2sd you can install or move any app onto the second partition.

Can you write a tutorial.

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bilzbub · Sep 15, 2013

It would be great to get rid of the bloatware though!!

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dschach · Sep 16, 2013

firered365 said:
Can you write a tutorial.

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If I have time tonight I'll write a quick F3 specific tutorial and post. Try googling for link2sd tutorial. I think there are a few out there already.

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firered365 said:
Can you write a tutorial.

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Take a look at this page.

http://tutorialfor-android.blogspot.com/2012/06/link2sd-complete-tutorial.html

yutzyscott · Sep 17, 2013

I only recently bought my f3. I went and swapped it for the f6 a couple of days ago. Happy with the switch and the f6 is also rootable with motochopper.

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richardpwnsner · Sep 17, 2013

inyourface09 said:
Loki is a security bypass created by djrbliss, when you "edit" a recovery or boot image before flashing it, it changes the header to overwrite the "security" that checks if the image is stock or not. and this allows for an insecure boot. So that even with a locked bootloader we can still flash a recovery that will work.
The only issue is that we need to track down a flag that is written to the partitions once you enter recovery to stop the factory reset that takes place.

In the stock recovery you can enter it without having a factory reset, but with the cwm one that i flashed once you enter recovery it sets the flag. Then once you reboot to system it wipes data and cache automatically. This is the same problem that the LG Motion has.

https://github.com/djrbliss/loki

So, just to be clear, if I flash a zip package (e.g., a group of apps, or a privacy mod that relies on the stock firmware) it'll stick?

carloswii5 · Sep 22, 2013

What if we were to use a bootstrap recovery in the meantime...

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carloswii5 · Sep 22, 2013

richardpwnsner said:
So, just to be clear, if I flash a zip package (e.g., a group of apps, or a privacy mod that relies on the stock firmware) it'll stick?

Yea as long as the boot.img or recovery doesn't change your good...

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