Wow, absolutely ridiculous. Do they gain something from doing this at all? How about putting in a little more effort in fixing the ****ty touchwiz bugs for starters rather than making it harder for users and devs? FFS. Thank god for Andrei and rest of the devs though.
[Info] Rooting will be impossible on newer stock kernels
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#1. The bootloaders are locked at the carriers request, not Samsung's.
#2. These patches are being applied due to the slew of retards that can't read the damn existing threads and end up bricking their phones.
#3. They always release source, most times before the device even releases.
#4. If this is too much for you, move on. All you have to do is odin a custom kernel or an earlier version than the patched one, as long is it is 4.2.2 it will work.
#5. Stop b!tching, this is a dev community devoted to outsmarting the big dogs.
#2. These patches are being applied due to the slew of retards that can't read the damn existing threads and end up bricking their phones.
#3. They always release source, most times before the device even releases.
#4. If this is too much for you, move on. All you have to do is odin a custom kernel or an earlier version than the patched one, as long is it is 4.2.2 it will work.
#5. Stop b!tching, this is a dev community devoted to outsmarting the big dogs.
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Exactly. Somebody post a locked zImage and I'll post a how-to for bypassing at binary level. Ultimate solution is to use custom kernels of course..I was hoping to wait until I actually had the device
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Just wondering if you're going to be releasing Perseus Kernel for the i9505 ever? I used your Kernel on my i9305 and it was outstanding, especially the screen calibration. Sorry if this is off topic.
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Just wondering if you're going to be releasing Perseus Kernel for the i9505 ever? I used your Kernel on my i9305 and it was outstanding, especially the screen calibration. Sorry if this is off topic.
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That's why you don't accept updates and wait for any exploits to be fixed. If we're getting root through an exploit, don't expect it to last long.
They gain fixed exploits. If we can get root through those means, someone with malicious intent could as well. Security is more important than fixing UI bugs and most users don't care about a bootloader being relocked. They do care about their phone being hacked, however.
Locked bootloaders very likely happened because the carriers that got devices with locked bootloaders wanted them locked. Don't get irritated at Samsung for that, it's the carriers that are doing it.
They're not turning their back on us for fixing exploits. If an exploit can be used by us to achieve root, it can be someone else with malicious intent to do the same.
Don't know anyone who has had their phone hacked. This is Samsung proving to the governments around the world that their phones are safe. They should keep the users' phones open, as the chances of someone getting hacked is miniscule. Root on the other hand is a necessity on stock roms as samsung fills them with an incredible amount of crap that users cannot remove.
+1, and people will manage to bypass it anyways, it's not as if it's adding some tough security that can't be cracked. It just makes life harder for a good chunk of users like us. I honestly doubt it if they're doing the out of concern for security.
I guess this is one of the reasons why the Pentagon now allows select Samsung devices for their employees. I think I'll buy this phone once everything's green and ready to go.
"You know you're rooted when Samsung's sales reps are in awe when they saw your phone running Jelly Bean and has Note II's Lockscreen"
This Pentagon involvement is what actually gives me headaches.
Sure the hackers in this forum will find a way to bypass Samsungs current attempt to block root access. But now there is a big paranoid watch dog in the back, who will most likely put pressure on Samsung to fix it again. And the hackers will find a new way. And so on, and on, and on, and on,....
As spartanic as CM might be, to me it becomes more attractive by the day.
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Good.
Now we're boned.
I knew we should have sided with russia
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Now we're boned.
I knew we should have sided with russia
Sent un Samsung Galaxia S Quatro LTE
Well its something good. There were malware app that self roots the phone and got the auper user access. Finally we wont have our phone permissions in the hand of others. Well for the script kiddies and flashaholics who are not concerned with security can always have the developers edition.
Keep it up samsung.
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Keep it up samsung.
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All custom kernels will disable that flag hence it won't be an issue.
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so do we really need to worry?? or sit back and relax??
cause the topic is terrifying and whole world now discuss that Galaxy S4 won't be rooted... and non rootable android is useless...
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41Here's the 1-byte binary hack to enable rooting with a stock kernel compiled with CONFIG_SEC_RESTRICT_SETUID. I've attached a screen cap of the ARM disassembly so you can see how it relates to the source. The most important part for patching are the blue numbers which represent the hexadecimal code. On the highlighted line, the change needed is 01 to 00. You can unpack/repack the kernel with various tools on XDA.
Kernel for this example was GT-I9500-TTT-I9500UBUAMDK.
34I just noticed when sniffing the new 9500UBUAMDK kernel is that they activated a new "feature" / CONFIG_SEC_RESTRICT_SETUID in the kernel.
This means no more rooting is possible, at least not anymore in the usual methods. Your SuperUser will tell you it will have granted access, but it's neutered on the kernel level.
There is the exception of allowing /system/bin/pppd to gain root access so somebody will want to maybe replace that somehow to gain it as an entry-point. Somebody will want to check that.
This doesn't apply to custom compiled kernels which disable this config option.32#1. The bootloaders are locked at the carriers request, not Samsung's.
#2. These patches are being applied due to the slew of retards that can't read the damn existing threads and end up bricking their phones.
#3. They always release source, most times before the device even releases.
#4. If this is too much for you, move on. All you have to do is odin a custom kernel or an earlier version than the patched one, as long is it is 4.2.2 it will work.
#5. Stop b!tching, this is a dev community devoted to outsmarting the big dogs.8
Oh, and by the way. People are misunderstanding it because it was not meant for them in the first place.
I posted this thread in the development forum solely for other devs to know about, but some moderator thought to move it in general discussion, and they've ignored requests to move it back.6
Do you really not get what they are doing here? They are trying to preemptively mitigate some of the more dangerous unknown bugs (like ones used by root exploits). Andrei is very clear, they are not stopping users from having root.
Android community doesn't seem to get this, vulnerabilities especially those leading to root are NOT a good thing to have on your phone. Patching them, or doing things to mitigate unknown ones is a GOOD thing. Advocating against these kinds of messures is like, advocating users run an outdated version of java on their PC, use IE8, and running any EXE that porn ads auto download.
