Why one should never unlock the Motorola Razr HD bootloader (xt925) !

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Skrilax_CZ

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Actually no, reading it again, this means that you can't offer a fraudlent "unlocking service". That means buy a phone, unlock it, sell as new for more $$ as special. It is not legal to forbid you selling the device (at least here) as a used device.
 

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From Motorola legal terms agreement:
(4) User is unlocking the Device and/or altering the Device's software or operating system for his/her own personal use; User agrees not to transfer (i.e. sell, lease, or otherwise receive compensation from any third party for the right to use, possess, or operate such Device) such Device to any third party;
 

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You don't get the point. What is the paragraph in your laws that defines what an agreement between a retailer and a consumer in your country under civil law?

For instance in Czech, this is different between civil and commerical law (civil law explicitly forbids such restriction here (and such clauses are invalidated), commerical doesn't).
 

iBolski

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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...

Wow, this was a funny thread to read. Wish I hadn't responded considering how old it was.

I at first was going to refute the OP about OTAs, but then as I read further on, I see he realizes he was mistaken.

Plus, NEVER take the word of the manufacturer completely at face value. I would instead look to what other people have to say. As someone else pointed out, the manufacturer is going to say things to keep you from unlocking the phone, even though they are providing you with a means to unlock it. Kind of stupid if you ask me.
 
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Wow, this was a funny thread to read. Wish I hadn't responded considering how old it was.

I at first was going to refute the OP about OTAs, but then as I read further on, I see he realizes he was mistaken.

Plus, NEVER take the word of the manufacturer completely at face value. I would instead look to what other people have to say. As someone else pointed out, the manufacturer is going to say things to keep you from unlocking the phone, even though they are providing you with a means to unlock it. Kind of stupid if you ask me.

Thanks for reviving such a derpy thread. Gave me some good laughs.

This is what happens when someone thinks they know more than what they really do. Sad that it took OP 21 days to realize all his problems and "facts" were based on him flashing a leaked rom and then not being able to update a leak with an OTA.

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    Cons one by one:
    - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
    True, but obvious.

    - No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
    Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^

    - Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
    Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.

    - Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
    Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.

    - Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
    No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)

    - Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
    Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.

    - Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
    You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).

    So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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    btw. it's a little OT but it was "spoken about": Anybody (who's unlocked and somehow customized) tried updating the firmware through Motorola Device Manager (https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91999/p/1449,8620)?
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    Oh boy, this thread again.
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    At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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    I disagree from the op.
    Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.