[ROM][01.12.2011][WWE]Jackos S3 WM6.5 21913 + Sense 2.5/2.1|TF3D2.1

kenikh · Jun 17, 2010

A question about the GTX theme: It appears you modded the theme to exclude the top bar icons and GTX themed Start Menu navigation themeing. Was this for perf and memory reasons?

I tried installing the GTX theme cab over this ROM to test the non-included features, but the only thing that came through was the lock screen. Header icons and navigation themeing are still not showing up. Did you lock these out in the ROM?

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

kenikh said:
I will flash it the moment it is posted.

+1 to this

I flashed v 1.0 yesterday evening, 'cause I needed to get rid of Energy which appeared to be buggy. And I don't regret at all! Congratulations @Jackos, so far it is the best out of WM6.5+Sense2.5.
I only had an issue that the phone switched itself into silent mode I don't even know when. I was on the meeting and just before it I turned the vibrate mode on (via LongPressEndKey), I even received 2 calls in the mean time (that's why I am sure it actually was a vibrate mode) and the next time I took it out of the pocket 2 hours later it was in silent mode.
I checked that it was impossible to set the silent mode accidentally presing the [volume down] button in the pocket (I had this "feature" on some ROM that the volume buttons stayed active even during standby, and sometimes I accidentally switched silent or vibrate mode in my pocket).
I don't have any profile switching software installed.
I will observe this and give a feedback as soon as I know something more.

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

Skrobel said:
+1 to this

I flashed v 1.0 yesterday evening, 'cause I needed to get rid of Energy which appeared to be buggy. And I don't regret at all! Congratulations @Jackos, so far it is the best out of WM6.5+Sense2.5.
I only had an issue that the phone switched itself into silent mode I don't even know when. I was on the meeting and just before it I turned the vibrate mode on (via LongPressEndKey), I even received 2 calls in the mean time (that's why I am sure it actually was a vibrate mode) and the next time I took it out of the pocket 2 hours later it was in silent mode.
I checked that it was impossible to set the silent mode accidentally presing the [volume down] button in the pocket (I had this "feature" on some ROM that the volume buttons stayed active even during standby, and sometimes I accidentally switched silent or vibrate mode in my pocket).
I don't have any profile switching software installed.
I will observe this and give a feedback as soon as I know something more.

Hmm, again some strange sound issues... I'll wait for your feedback. Thanks for testing.

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

kenikh said:
A question about the GTX theme: It appears you modded the theme to exclude the top bar icons and GTX themed Start Menu navigation themeing. Was this for perf and memory reasons?

I tried installing the GTX theme cab over this ROM to test the non-included features, but the only thing that came through was the lock screen. Header icons and navigation themeing are still not showing up. Did you lock these out in the ROM?

I just did install the Sense 2.5 GTX theme. No other changes to the system.

The top taskbar isn't locked or whatever. I just kept the icons from original WM6.5. as they are the cleanest available. What's more, they have the oldschool look with reminds me why I created it.

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

Jackos said:
Hmm, again some strange sound issues... I'll wait for your feedback. Thanks for testing.

No I don't think these are sound issues. At least not the ones that have been reported for Sense 2.5 Hybrid, because I didn't have to reset the phone. I just turned normal mode on and the sounds worked fine (just received a couple of SMSes).
I soft reset the phone only 2 times after HR, and both ones were yesterday. And the most amazing thing is that I still have 64 MB of free RAM after whole day of intensive use.
Well, I mean this is nothing special next to the Oldschool or any of the Hybrids but still from all the S2 ROMs I've had it's the best so far.

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

Skrobel said:
No I don't think these are sound issues. At least not the ones that have been reported for Sense 2.5 Hybrid, because I didn't have to reset the phone. I just turned normal mode on and the sounds works fine (just received a couple of SMSes).
I soft reset the phone only 2 times after HR, and both ones were yesterday. And the most amazing thing is that I still have 64 MB of free RAM after whole day of intensive use.
Well, I mean this is nothing special next to the Oldschool or any of the Hybrids but still from all the S2 ROMs I've had it's the best so far.

You use clearram?

Hmm, yeah I realized that the issue isn't same as with the Hybrid roms, but they are kinda connected, aren't they? I have such a bad feeling that you install some weird Polish language MUIs, don't you? :>

Happy to see you guys enjoy my rom. I'm working to make it even better, because 60MB free RAM isn't actually my type. My goal is to have 80MB ram, so I can have all my programs open while traveling.

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

Jackos said:
You use clearram?

nope

at least for now I don't have to

Hmm, yeah I realized that the issue isn't same as with the Hybrid roms, but they are kinda connected, aren't they? I have such a bad feeling that you install some weird Polish language MUIs, don't you? :>

I knew you would say that

But also this time I must say NO

I didn't have the time for even trying to make this ROM Polish. I needed a reliable phone for today, that's why I almost installed nothing (only a few standard apps which I didn't even have to install since I just put them in the Autoinstall folder and they magically are installed, pfff). But really it's nothing I haven't used before so I don't suspect them, but... everything is possible

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

Jackos S2 Memory management

By the way I just made an experiment similar to the one you made with the Oldschool.
You can see the result in the attachment.

Did I tell you I am impressed? In any other ROM based on shipped S2 when I run more than 3 apps, one of them is killed when I switch to another.

Yet more interesting thing is that after closing all the aplications from the screen the memory returned to 68% (not to 60%, but it's still outstanding).

I could open even more apps, but then they were not listed anyway and moreover 2 "slots" were taken by the up/down arrows. So I left only these.

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

Skrobel said:
By the way I just made an experiment similar to the one you made with the Oldschool.
You can see the result in the attachment.

Did I tell you I am impressed? In any other ROM based on shipped S2 when I run more than 3 apps, one of them is killed when I minimize it.

Yet more interesting thing is that after closing all the aplications from the screen the memory returned to 68% (not to 60%, but it's still outstanding).

I could open even more apps, but then they were not listed anyway and moreover 2 "slots" were taken by the up/down arrows. So I left only these.

I guess the ram is taken by file system cache.

kenikh · Jun 17, 2010

Jackos said:
I just did install the Sense 2.5 GTX theme. No other changes to the system.

The top taskbar isn't locked or whatever. I just kept the icons from original WM6.5. as they are the cleanest available. What's more, they have the oldschool look with reminds me why I created it.

I realized my mistake - these graphics were not included in the base theme...they are add-ons. No issues now.

BTW, I have to echo the previous sentiments: I am amazed by how my apps just stay open if I want them open. No forced clsures due to memory issues. Great, great ROM.

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

Jackos said:
I guess the ram is taken by file system cache.

I have no idea. Don't know how to check that anyway.
The summarized memory taken by all 15 processes shown in dotFredTaskManager (including filesys.exe) is only 54,4 MB out of 125,17 reported as "In use" by normal task manager. An there are 29 services running...

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

kenikh said:
BTW, I have to echo the previous sentiments: I am amazed by how my apps just stay open if I want them open. No forced clsures due to memory issues. Great, great ROM.

Thanks again for your approbation. I really appreciate it.

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

Skrobel said:
I have no idea. Don't know how to check that anyway.
The summarized memory taken by all 15 processes shown in dotFredTaskManager (including filesys.exe) is only 54,4 MB out of 125,17 reported as "In use" by normal task manager. An there are 29 services running...

That's "normal" WM behavior.

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

Just to be clear:
My two previous posts were not to claim but to admire your ROM

I think that although all the RAM taken the possibility to run so many apps in Sense 2.5 is outstanding. Can't even imagine v1.1 will be better

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

Skrobel said:
Just to be clear:
My two previous posts were not to claim but to admire your ROM
I think that although all the RAM taken the possibility to run so many apps in Sense 2.5 is outstanding. Can't even imagine v1.1 will be better

I didn't receive your criticism as offense or claim

I really appreciate any feedback. The criticism is even more useful, because it motivates and makes me focus on objectives.

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

OK, if that's how you want to put it

But why are you taking my words as criticism? Perhaps this is my bad english but I really didn't criticise. By my multiple-apps-test I wanted to show this ROM performs much better than any other S2 ROM I used. It was said many times and is understood that WM6.5 will never perform as good as WM6.1 (too bad the hybrids don't want to work properly) that's why I lost my hope that I could possibly work comfortably on WM6.5 + Sense 2.5 ROM.
Your ROM gave me a new spark of hope

I really congratulate

Jackos · Jun 17, 2010

LOL, you're funny

I had the feeling that you're sad that your apps even after being closed ate 8% of YOUR ram ;D So I assumed that as criticism =)

Skrobel · Jun 17, 2010

Aaaahhhh.... You talked about that! I'd never thought you could possibly read it this way, sorry!

That's why two guys from Poland should speak/write Polish to each other

And I will be more careful what I write.

OK, enough of this off topic then! I will post some feedback tomorrow after day 2!

iamugly · Jun 17, 2010

you are the only cook in the world who is more focusing on improve performance and reduce the overhead in runtime.

unlike other ROMs such as Energy ROM, which only threw latest stuff into it and let it eat all memories and batteries only for getting it eye-candy.

you're simply the best cook in the world, hope you continue going this direction in the future.

looking forward to new ROM.

btw: could you please add Solitaire back to the new ROM. we need some entertainment while waiting in bus

kenikh · Jun 17, 2010

iamugly said:
you are the only cook in the world who is more focusing on improve performance and reduce the overhead in runtime.

unlike other ROMs such as Energy ROM, which only threw latest stuff into it and let it eat all memories and batteries only for getting it eye-candy.

you're simply the best cook in the world, hope you continue going this direction in the future.

looking forward to new ROM

+1!!!

I got tired of the bloatware and found Jacko's S2. An amazing piece of engineering and attention to detail.

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