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TheBiles

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I don't have my DNA yet, but I have a couple of the Palm Pre plus Inductive charging docks,

I would assume the DNA just has some magnetic induction charging coils? I would like to see if I can charge it using the charger I already have, or if I am retarded.

Ideas?

The DNA uses the Qi wireless charging standard. Other chargers will not work.

Sent from my Droid DNA
 
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MikaelPe

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Car Dock with Qi charging for DNA...

All, we here at iBOLT have been testing a new and soon-to-be announced car-dock with integrated Qi charging designed for the DNA (and also all other HTC phones). I've been driving around with it today, literally. We'll make sure that a link is posted here in this thread as soon as we can share photos and specs (about a week or so). So far it works very well without case and also with a gel case or a 1-layered hard case. However, when tested with a super heavy case that has both a hard shell then a rubber cover the wireless charging doesn't reach all the way to the phone, or it is very weak. Our concept for this car-dock is to start the car-mode with an NFC tag so you can use the very nice integrated HTC car-mode app or download an after-market solution like CarHome Ultra. Or, you can just program the NFC tag to start your favorite app and connect to Bluetooth (for example).

No MSRP price yet but figure a price similar to a car dock + the charging pad as it's the same components baked into one. We'll do our best to keep it low. A very cool end user experience I must say, just dock the phone with a 1-hand motion and it is charging and it goes into car mode... Stay tuned:)
 

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All, we here at iBOLT have been testing a new and soon-to-be announced car-dock with integrated Qi charging designed for the DNA (and also all other HTC phones). I've been driving around with it today, literally. We'll make sure that a link is posted here in this thread as soon as we can share photos and specs (about a week or so). So far it works very well without case and also with a gel case or a 1-layered hard case. However, when tested with a super heavy case that has both a hard shell then a rubber cover the wireless charging doesn't reach all the way to the phone, or it is very weak. Our concept for this car-dock is to start the car-mode with an NFC tag so you can use the very nice integrated HTC car-mode app or download an after-market solution like CarHome Ultra. Or, you can just program the NFC tag to start your favorite app and connect to Bluetooth (for example).

No MSRP price yet but figure a price similar to a car dock + the charging pad as it's the same components baked into one. We'll do our best to keep it low. A very cool end user experience I must say, just dock the phone with a 1-hand motion and it is charging and it goes into car mode... Stay tuned:)

if you happen to need anymore testers i would be happy to volunteer, since i use my phone as a gps unit all the time
 

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All, we here at iBOLT have been testing a new and soon-to-be announced car-dock with integrated Qi charging designed for the DNA (and also all other HTC phones). I've been driving around with it today, literally. We'll make sure that a link is posted here in this thread as soon as we can share photos and specs (about a week or so). So far it works very well without case and also with a gel case or a 1-layered hard case. However, when tested with a super heavy case that has both a hard shell then a rubber cover the wireless charging doesn't reach all the way to the phone, or it is very weak. Our concept for this car-dock is to start the car-mode with an NFC tag so you can use the very nice integrated HTC car-mode app or download an after-market solution like CarHome Ultra. Or, you can just program the NFC tag to start your favorite app and connect to Bluetooth (for example).

No MSRP price yet but figure a price similar to a car dock + the charging pad as it's the same components baked into one. We'll do our best to keep it low. A very cool end user experience I must say, just dock the phone with a 1-hand motion and it is charging and it goes into car mode... Stay tuned:)

This is exactly what I've been looking for. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these... Thanks!
 

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All, we here at iBOLT have been testing a new and soon-to-be announced car-dock with integrated Qi charging designed for the DNA (and also all other HTC phones). I've been driving around with it today, literally. We'll make sure that a link is posted here in this thread as soon as we can share photos and specs (about a week or so). So far it works very well without case and also with a gel case or a 1-layered hard case. However, when tested with a super heavy case that has both a hard shell then a rubber cover the wireless charging doesn't reach all the way to the phone, or it is very weak. Our concept for this car-dock is to start the car-mode with an NFC tag so you can use the very nice integrated HTC car-mode app or download an after-market solution like CarHome Ultra. Or, you can just program the NFC tag to start your favorite app and connect to Bluetooth (for example).

No MSRP price yet but figure a price similar to a car dock + the charging pad as it's the same components baked into one. We'll do our best to keep it low. A very cool end user experience I must say, just dock the phone with a 1-hand motion and it is charging and it goes into car mode... Stay tuned:)

This is great news, get this thing ready to ship!

My DNA will be here in 5 days, I would love to never have to use a usb charger. I already got a wireless pad for home and work, just need the car dock to round it out. So get his thing out and keep us posted, I'm sure plenty here will buy it when it's ready.
 

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Did you get the LG one? If so, supposedly the thing beeps super loudly every time the charger turns on according to the Amazon.com reviews.

You are supposed to be able to take it apart and remove the speaker from the board.

I just ordered 2 for $35 ea from there... hoping for the best.

Beep isn't loud. Just got mine today. This thing is solid so far.

Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda premium
 

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All, we here at iBOLT have been testing a new and soon-to-be announced car-dock with integrated Qi charging designed for the DNA (and also all other HTC phones). I've been driving around with it today, literally. We'll make sure that a link is posted here in this thread as soon as we can share photos and specs (about a week or so). So far it works very well without case and also with a gel case or a 1-layered hard case. However, when tested with a super heavy case that has both a hard shell then a rubber cover the wireless charging doesn't reach all the way to the phone, or it is very weak. Our concept for this car-dock is to start the car-mode with an NFC tag so you can use the very nice integrated HTC car-mode app or download an after-market solution like CarHome Ultra. Or, you can just program the NFC tag to start your favorite app and connect to Bluetooth (for example).

No MSRP price yet but figure a price similar to a car dock + the charging pad as it's the same components baked into one. We'll do our best to keep it low. A very cool end user experience I must say, just dock the phone with a 1-hand motion and it is charging and it goes into car mode... Stay tuned:)

Is it capable of keeping a GPS + Music Streaming running on the phone and actually charge it? I just did a 7 hour trip and the 1A usb port on my charger actually couldn't keep up with the phone and i had to switch it over to the 2A port to actually keep the battery from decreasing.

also i had an Atrix HD and the car dock came with the charger built in (not wireless, but still charging port nonetheless) I hope this would be priced around the same if not cheaper.
 

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Is it capable of keeping a GPS + Music Streaming running on the phone and actually charge it? I just did a 7 hour trip and the 1A usb port on my charger actually couldn't keep up with the phone and i had to switch it over to the 2A port to actually keep the battery from decreasing.

also i had an Atrix HD and the car dock came with the charger built in (not wireless, but still charging port nonetheless) I hope this would be priced around the same if not cheaper.

Very valid question. If you have the the screen is on full brightness, running GPS, streaming music and making phone calls, the handset must be able to receive "full charge", usually 600-800mA in order to "keep up" and avoid a negative draw. We are just in the testing and evaluating phase of these different scenarios to see if the car-dock must have a "backup" microUSB charging solution to support this scenario. We'll keep everyone posted here in this thread with our findings over the next week or so.
 

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Very valid question. If you have the the screen is on full brightness, running GPS, streaming music and making phone calls, the handset must be able to receive "full charge", usually 600-800mA in order to "keep up" and avoid a negative draw. We are just in the testing and evaluating phase of these different scenarios to see if the car-dock must have a "backup" microUSB charging solution to support this scenario. We'll keep everyone posted here in this thread with our findings over the next week or so.

As i was saying, i was probably pushing the phone to it's limits with my usage on that trip, but I was exceeding the charge rate from my 1A USB port on my car charger and had to switch it over to the 2A one. though on the same note My phone was unplugged for the first ~3 hours because the charger wasn't in all the way and my DNA only dropped to 17% battery before i realized this and pushed the car charger in properly.

Unless the charger would be pretty close to the break even point i doubt it would be an efficient car dock for anything but short trips which wont require GPS usage or a car dock.
 

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For all who keep asking:

Wireless charging is for convenience, not efficiency.
It is well-known that inductive charging is slow and creates a lot of heat from the wasted electricity.

We can only hope its the coils heating up and not the battery. Otherwise it will shorten the battery life considerably. I think it is probably the coils.
 
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Running some battery stats after a few days of use, it seems that on the Nokia Qi charger I get a charge rate of about 18% per hour. Honestly, that's disappointingly low. At that rate a full charge takes over 5 hours. Does anyone else have this charger and can provide similar tests?
 

adrynalyne

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Running some battery stats after a few days of use, it seems that on the Nokia Qi charger I get a charge rate of about 18% per hour. Honestly, that's disappointingly low. At that rate a full charge takes over 5 hours. Does anyone else have this charger and can provide similar tests?

They will all likely be that slow. My LG is.

I only use it overnight.
 

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I kind of want to wait and see if anyone develops a wireless charging pad with it's own battery, such that it can be used as current pads, but also as a portable battery (charging in your phone in your pocket, possibly?)

Anyone heard about such a development?

The bad news is that the Powermat Bundle I got did indeed come with a portable battery unit that had a built-in micro cable so you could take a second charge with you. The Powermat had three "pads" so you could charge your phone on one and the portable battery on another plus even another receiver unit that you could plug into a non-wireless device, However, as we've learned, the Powermat is not Qi-compatible and does not charge the phone.

Great idea they have but useless since it's not Qi unless you simply want the portable battery thingie but then why not just get a ZaggSparq?
 
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