Alternative Gamepads

I have an ouya and i don't like the controllers. I like the PlayStation Dpad location and setup, especially for epsxe and SNES.

The Red Samurai from GameStop is $12 and pairs great. The Nyko PlayPad Pro is the same controller as the official AFTV one.

The only issue with the samurai is that the button mapping for the triggers don't match the official gamepad so Terrarria and some others don't work without root. Emulators can just remap.

So those 2 would be my choices. Nyko Gamepad Pro being the best choice if you can find one.

Received my Ouya controller yesterday, paired, no problems. Working great with Asphalt. But it does not work with Minecraft, any tips ?

I am about to give up on my red samurai controller. First one worked great except the left analog only worked diagonally. Replaced with another and it won't hold a charge. Works plugged in but shuts off immediately when unplugged.

So test out thoroughly.

I bought two Red Samurai from GameStop. They both pair, however I can't seem to use both the emulators I have tried.
What mode is everyone using "K" or "G" mode(bottum of controller). I have mine on "G"
I tried Mupen64Free and RetroArch. Neither let me enable a 2nd controller. And both controllers seem to see the select as "back" and the start as "enter" buttons.
Any tips would be helpful...

I have same problem with Red Samurai, I'm trying to use Genesis/N64/Snex/PS1 Emulators and without being able to reprogram Start I'm lost. does the Nyko Propad Plus, Logitech F710, or PS4 Dualshock have this issue? and which of the 3 will work will all emulators. Trying to find a Kid friendly solution that once it's programmed it'll work consistently.

mike2246 said:

I have same problem with Red Samurai, I'm trying to use Genesis/N64/Snex/PS1 Emulators and without being able to reprogram Start I'm lost. does the Nyko Propad Plus, Logitech F710, or PS4 Dualshock have this issue? and which of the 3 will work will all emulators. Trying to find a Kid friendly solution that once it's programmed it'll work consistently.

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Which emulators are you using? The emulators made by the .emu guy all have the ability to remap controls on a per device basis (so that you can remap start and select and such on the controller while still retaining those functions on the remote. For those four systems I use MD.emu, Mupen64plus, SNES9X EX, and EPSXE. All of those should allow you to remap start no problem.

Ok on mupen64, I had to use a mouse enabled device to physically click on the off/on button to turn on 2 controller. Just selecting it with remote never turns it to on. Mapping works for the red samurai....
I hope I can get retro arch working, as it seems easier to use one app for all, instead of multiple apps.

mike2246 said:

I have same problem with Red Samurai, I'm trying to use Genesis/N64/Snex/PS1 Emulators and without being able to reprogram Start I'm lost. does the Nyko Propad Plus, Logitech F710, or PS4 Dualshock have this issue? and which of the 3 will work will all emulators. Trying to find a Kid friendly solution that once it's programmed it'll work consistently.

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Honestly if you wanting a kid friendly dedicated emulator machine then get an Ouya. Supports multiple controllers out of the box and pairs easily with PS3 and Xbox and all Bluetooth controllers. The ouya is hands down the best gaming box I've found that just works.

The fire TV stick is great for travel but picky on getting everything to work. Seems some apps work with certain gamepads and others work with others. I loved the feel and ease of pairing the Red Samauri. I might keep it around for my Ouya.

I just bought a Nyko Playpad Pro but haven't tested it on the Fire TV yet. Worked fine on my Nexus 7 with Snesx. I get a minimal response delay on both the Nyko and Samauri in super Mario world. Mario games are great for testing delay times. I don't experience this on the Ouya.

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Just tested my Nkyo Pro and it works great. I didnt fully test everything but terraria works as expected with the trigger issue I had with the Samsuri.

Overall I like the Samuri feel better... reminds me of a PS3. Felt great in hand and in game. The Nyko feels like a 360 controller and kind of clunky. Feedback on the buttons arent the best. Seems I have to push down pretty hard to get the buttons to register. They may losen up over time. The joysticks feels good on both.

Mouse mode works great on the Nyko. Great option to have on the fire stick for traveling and web browsing.

The Samsuri has keyboard mode and Gamepad mode. I had to actually pair using both modes for it to work. The difference is keyboard mode would work better for mapping probably as each button is assigned a letter off a keyboard. Up = W vs Up = Up in gamepad mode. Might possibly be the way you need to setup 2 controllers; 1 set to G and ths other set to K.

Vidikron said:

I have a Moga pocket and it doesn't seem to work. It doesn't show up on the Bluetooth pair screen at all.

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Neither does mine. Lame.
Let's all bug Amazon and Moga about it, with some luck they'll fix it...

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Neither does mine. Lame.
Let's all bug Amazon and Moga about it, with some luck they'll fix it...

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My moga pro pairs fine in "B" mode. Seems like I had it paired in "A" mode at one time also.

illuminerdi said:

I can't seem to pair my Dualshock 4s (either of them!) to my rooted FTV. Am I missing something? Do I need Bluez IME or something else installed to pair a DS4? I've done the keylayout file thing to fix the mapping of the buttons, but I can't get it to pair wirelessly. Should I have paired once before doing the keylayout fix for the DS4?

Thanks

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Did you ever get your DS4 to work?

The ps3 power a controller seems to work with the amazon store games.tried shadow fighters,Leo,buggy racer.


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I've been experimenting with my many controllers. I get like a second lag on my PlayPad Pro and Samurai. The Ouya controller has the quickest response. My PS3 gamepad worked the best on my other android consoles but my fireTV is not rooted so no dice.

You can only really tell with like Mario games or split second platforming games. I don't see similar lag on my other android consoles.

No big deal but an observation. I haven't tried Terraria with the Ouya controller to see if the triggers worked. Just some observations.

I liked the Samauri the best for emulators because of the Dpad. The PlayPad Pro for its compatibility. And the Ouya for its response. The touchpad works o the ouya controller as a mouse... except the Ouya has a horrible touchpad.

I'd be interested to see how a DS4 plays and responds.

player911 said:

I've been experimenting with my many controllers. I get like a second lag on my PlayPad Pro and Samurai. The Ouya controller has the quickest response. My PS3 gamepad worked the best on my other android consoles but my fireTV is not rooted so no dice.

You can only really tell with like Mario games or split second platforming games. I don't see similar lag on my other android consoles.

No big deal but an observation. I haven't tried Terraria with the Ouya controller to see if the triggers worked. Just some observations.

I liked the Samauri the best for emulators because of the Dpad. The PlayPad Pro for its compatibility. And the Ouya for its response. The touchpad works o the ouya controller as a mouse... except the Ouya has a horrible touchpad.

I'd be interested to see how a DS4 plays and responds.

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How have you gotten the ouya touchpad to work? are you rooted?

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How have you gotten the ouya touchpad to work? are you rooted?

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I can also add to the list that the Moga GameOn Anywhere does not work with the FireTV

Having issues with the Nyko Playpad Pro that I bought off Amazon. I was able to successfully update the firmware (I think), but I can't get the controller to power on. It's been charging for about 5 hours now, and the orange light is still on...nothing happens when I press and hold the home button. This is the one I bought http://www.amazon.com/Playpad-Andro...d=1420074453&sr=8-1&keywords=nyko+playpad+pro. Any suggestions?

ellecsor said:

Having issues with the Nyko Playpad Pro that I bought off Amazon. I was able to successfully update the firmware (I think), but I can't get the controller to power on. It's been charging for about 5 hours now, and the orange light is still on...nothing happens when I press and hold the home button. This is the one I bought http://www.amazon.com/Playpad-Andro...d=1420074453&sr=8-1&keywords=nyko+playpad+pro. Any suggestions?

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I thought I read in one of the reviews on Amazon that one user had to try multiple chargers and found the highest rated one that he had, then let it stay on the charger for 6 hours before it even registered a charge. Anyway, have you tried other chargers, specifically higher output versions? (If you're lucky enough to have some old phone chargers laying around). Just a thought...

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I thought I read in one of the reviews on Amazon that one user had to try multiple chargers and found the highest rated one that he had, then let it stay on the charger for 6 hours before it even registered a charge. Anyway, have you tried other chargers, specifically higher output versions? (If you're lucky enough to have some old phone chargers laying around). Just a thought...

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I have. It's been on my iPad (10w) charger overnight, and still can't get it to turn on. Amazon is sending a replacement...hopefully that one isn't completely dead. Thanks for your suggestion.

Sorry if this has been covered but I'm new to this. I have emulators side loaded and wanted to use an old wired xbox 360 game pad. Once connected to the USB port it continually blinks but controls nothing. Any ideas?

mrpap said:

How have you gotten the ouya touchpad to work? are you rooted?

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No Im not rooted. It just worked. Maybe you have to be in an app that supports mouse.