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RussianBear

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thanx just trying to throw some ideas around. After being able to downgrade sensations and evo 3ds we should be able to put xboarders eng boot loader in and use fast boot commands to write secure flag. That's kinda where I'm heading first with this.

And you guys don't have to get me the phone. I think a couple people with the nerve and the means could test it out. Of course this is risky and would love to try on a bricked phone first. That way if it doesn't work for some reason no one lost their phone. Otherwise we will have to intentionally brick one to see if Linux can write to the emmc through qsb_load mode.

Ultimately if everything were to work out we create a script program just like revolutionary that bricks, then installs the loader and s-off. All in a single program (just like revolutionary).

Of course this process could be a lot harder than I can handle but Dexter and those guys weren't devs either really they just kept trying until they figured it out.

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the way the sensations and evos have been bricked is "special." by corrupting the hboot, the phone would enter a special recovery mode (we dubbed it the emmc mode) that allowed a linux or in some cases even a windows pc to see the phone as a disk drive, thereby allowing us to inject pretty much anything into it, since the write protection was off (the protection is on for the first 32mbs, however). that's how the idea of injecting a stock hboot came about. that's when fuses wrote his automated linux based tool.
There are many other types of qhsusb_dload bricks out there that were not caused by incorrect s-on application and that do not appear to enter the emmc mode. Hence, getting any kind of bricked amaze won't do you any good, unless you really know what you're doing.
Lots more research is needed at this point. Feel free to chip in with your time :) Feel free to join our irc channel.
 
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I think ietfm (sorry if misspelled) of Team Revolutionary is at like £465 in donations for him to get an Amaze. Whatever hasn't been donated by Apr 15, I will donate to get him the phone (unless its donated before). Maybe you can discuss this with him, or someone can get him to follow this thread?

yes, we are fairly close to the mark needed to actually have a device purchased and shipped... just a few more "decent" donations from people and we may be there by the end of next week, would be nice if some of those that pledged to donate when s-off was achieved to step up and donate now if they can... we're pretty close, and in the hands of revolutionary team I'm pretty sure s-off would be right around the corner...
 

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yes, we are fairly close to the mark needed to actually have a device purchased and shipped... just a few more "decent" donations from people and we may be there by the end of next week, would be nice if some of those that pledged to donate when s-off was achieved to step up and donate now if they can... we're pretty close, and in the hands of revolutionary team I'm pretty sure s-off would be right around the corner...

Well, it actually might already be around the corner

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1526316

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maybe I just don't understand, but what does this have to do with s-off?

Nothing. The last few posts in that thread says it all. :/

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yes, we are fairly close to the mark needed to actually have a device purchased and shipped... just a few more "decent" donations from people and we may be there by the end of next week, would be nice if some of those that pledged to donate when s-off was achieved to step up and donate now if they can... we're pretty close, and in the hands of revolutionary team I'm pretty sure s-off would be right around the corner...

Well I've actually already matched my pledge of $100 through donations. Like you said though, hopefully some of the others will step up.
 
Its not properly reading the hboot version we have on our phone, so it probably isnt gonna work anyway
even if it was, I thought it's been determined that s-off is NOT in the hboot on our phones... again, I don't have a photographic memory, so it may be that I am not remembering correctly... I apologize if this is the case...
 
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even if it was, I thought it's been determined that s-off is NOT in the hboot on our phones... again, I don't have a photographic memory, so it may be that I am not remembering correctly... I apologize if this is the case...

I must have missed that. I had it in my head that it was still associated with the hboot

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Wouldn't it suck for globatron and fuses if some random person just jumped in with a working s=off? Lol :D

They would get to collect the bounty :p

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So, should we be sending our pledges from this thread to J-bear? Sorry, not been following dev for a month and cone back to see his S-Off post and not much happening here. I guess the Revolutionary team got my device $$ for nothing...

Can someone who's current on situation clarify things for me? (and I'm sure others) Thanks!

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So, should we be sending our pledges from this thread to J-bear? Sorry, not been following dev for a month and cone back to see his S-Off post and not much happening here. I guess the Revolutionary team got my device $$ for nothing...

Can someone who's current on situation clarify things for me? (and I'm sure others) Thanks!

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Just wait for an official release, then donate money all the information will be there. I'm sure you can't be that anxious to give away money.

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    I am going to go buy two new Samsung phones. I will send them one of my amaze phones. I will need an address.

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    I'm gonna volunteer in this s-off search. I'll risk my Amaze, have insurance :D

    The thing about HTC devices are getting through the encryption to the NAND.

    *IF* I do find a way to achieve this, I will finally get to name an s-off method with my username!

    Give me a week guys, I'll try to make it really simple (one-click root method). ;)
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    I have received a few private messages asking for for progress reports on s-off along with several other requests such as bounties and such. I won't allow a bounty to be set up for s-off unless it can be delivered without any doubt! Since this is impossible to guarantee and per a few requests I've decided to set up a PLEDGE to the developer(s) or team(s) that can contribute to obtaining s-off.

    How this will work.

    If you are a developer and want to take a crack at getting s-off for this device then please be our guest. Of course you will require an HTC Amaze with S-ON and you will have to use your own device at your own risk!

    Upon a release of a successful method of obtaining s-off for this device each member that places a pledge will be held accountable for the amount pledged.
    HOWEVER, XDA-Developers, XDA-Developers Moderators, Admins and other staff members are NOT liable, obligated or required IN ANY WAY to interfere, object or in any way enforce the collection of any pledged amount from any member. All pledges are a promise from one member to whomever can successfully submit the means for the XDA Community with S-ON devices to obtain S-OFF without any other party being involved.

    In other words, you are not guaranteed the amount pledged by any member and if the member(s) do not fullfill the quoted pledges then there's absolutely nothing the developer(s) or team(s) can do to force receipt of those pledges.

    Upon receipt of pledges after the release of verifiable s-off method simply create a post and edit it accordingly with the names and values of each member that has been paid. I will then return to the post and edit it accordingly to mark that the member has fulfilled his/her pledged amount.


    TO THOSE THAT PLEDGE OR WOULD LIKE TO PLEDGE.
    By placing a value in a reply after this thread you are making a promise to pledge that said amount within 30 days of delivery of a successful method of obtaining s-off. Those that do fulfill the quoted pledged amount must be verified by the developer(s) and/or team(s) involved in releasing the said method. After receipt of pledged amount the developer(s) and/or team(s) should then add your name and amount received to a post and I will edit your post with the value of the amount paid as mentioned by the developer(s) and/or team(s) providing the said s-off method. When donating, please include your XDA member name so we'll know who to give proper credit to.

    DO NOT DONATE ANY MONEY TO ANYONE PROMISING TO PROVIDE S-OFF!!!
    You are not guaranteed by any one member(s) or team(s) that s-off can or will be accomplished. Donating any amount of money to obtain s-off will be at your own risk and XDA as well as other members and staff will not be held liable or responsible for lost funds.

    Now what?
    We don't have s-off. We probably won't have s-off. We are hoping to get s-off.
    Do you want to help us get s-off? Do you think that you can help by pledging an amount? Post a reply below with your donation amount.

    Example:

    Binary100100 pledges $100

    If you decide that you want to change your pledge then do NOT post another reply. Simply edit your thread.

    To the "hero" that gets us s-off.

    You simply need to post the method as another thread in Development then provide the link to this thread here.
    Below the link add the list of those members that you have received the donation from and for the amount received.

    Example:
    xda-developers/example/link/amaze4g/s-off-method-link-here

    Binary100100 donated $100
    someone_else donated $100
    some_rich_generous_guy $500
    some_cheap_guy $5

    Total donated so far $705


    If anyone has any question the feel free to ask.
    PLEASE keep this ON TOPIC.
    PLEDGES AND INQUIRIES ONLY!!!
    Failure to do so may have posts deleted and infraction for failure to comply.

    Now... contributors, open your wallets. Developers, put on your thinking caps.

    Thanks!



    Amount pledged so far:


    $998


    EDIT:
    So for once I have some good news!

    Recognized Developer and better known as member of Team Revolutionary ieftm seems to be interested in helping us with S-OFF!

    Of course this means that he needs to get a phone in hand.

    We can do this one of two ways.

    1. We can get a volunteer to risk sacraficing their own device to get s-off. Keep in mind that the device will NOT be compensated if damaged or lost in the process and will be at your own risk! It will need to be shipped to Netherlands.
    2. We can donate to ieftm so that he can pay the full price for the device. This is what I would recommend personally.

    If you would like to donate directly to Team Revolutionary do so by clicking the link in ieftm's signature.
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    Progress so far: I made an unsecure script for s-off. It soft bricked my phone so many times it's not even funny anymore. It keeps switching from s-off to s-on one soft brick at a time. I will keep on working on this on my free time but won't have the time to do so since I have midterms and finals in 3 months. All of this school work is tormenting me so I've decided to take a break. Let's hope the Revolutionary team gets this, I think I'm done with it at the moment. See you guys in three months!
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    Ok pm him tonight when I get off work

    Swyped From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
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