From VZW to ST (Succesfully)

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In the service menu find the lte bands and select ALL. Go to phone dialer and type (*#27663368378#) i forget where it is so just look around theres all kinds of stuff you can do.

P.S.
Cricket might not let you use lte i know Red Pocket wouldnt let me use it only h+. That is why i switched to Straight Talk.
 
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CC850

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I just contacted Straight Talk customer service via chat yesterday and asked if Verizon sims were available for 4g Verizon phones. They asked for the MEID and said that my Verizon S4 qualified for the BYOD program. Their customer service said I could put the Verizon S4 on their network. I double verified that I was not going to be sent an AT&T or T-Mobile sim and was told it was a sim for Verizon 4g LTE phones. So, I guess we'll see in the next 7 to 10 days if it is an actual Verizon sim.

I know they sell Verizon LTE branded Straight Talk phones, so it seems possible. It's kinda of vague when you go on their site to purchase a BYOD sim if your getting a Verizon sim, but they require you enter the MEID and when I tried it I was prompted that my phone qualified. So, that's when I got on the chat to see if this was acurate.
 

jivetrky

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I just contacted Straight Talk customer service via chat yesterday and asked if Verizon sims were available for 4g Verizon phones. They asked for the MEID and said that my Verizon S4 qualified for the BYOD program. Their customer service said I could put the Verizon S4 on their network. I double verified that I was not going to be sent an AT&T or T-Mobile sim and was told it was a sim for Verizon 4g LTE phones. So, I guess we'll see in the next 7 to 10 days if it is an actual Verizon sim.

I know they sell Verizon LTE branded Straight Talk phones, so it seems possible. It's kinda of vague when you go on their site to purchase a BYOD sim if your getting a Verizon sim, but they require you enter the MEID and when I tried it I was prompted that my phone qualified. So, that's when I got on the chat to see if this was acurate.

Please update when you get it so we all know for sure :) Would sure rather use Verizon's network rather than ATT
 

Chadwicked666

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Yes, please do because my Verizon S4 is on ST but I bought the Sim kit at Walmart and had to pick between AT&T and T-Mobile.
 
After chatting with tech support

I asked if my phone was compatible, in which he said yes but this is the answer I got about buying the BYOP pack and trying to figure out which carrier my phone would be on after activation.

"Unfortunately, we are unable to determine which carrier network your phone will work on. Upon completing the activation of your phone, the system determines which carrier will be used to service your phone. We have no control over this nor do we have any access to any carrier information."

I'll be going to Walmart to pick up the BYOP package today and will report back as I don't get great signal with Verizon at my house.
 

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Please update when you get it so we all know for sure :) Would sure rather use Verizon's network rather than ATT

SIM came in FedEx today, and it's a Tracfone CDMA SIM. I haven't activated it, curently shows 3g in the notification bar.

I was looking around on-line yesterday and found a few pages mentioning Verizon Pre-paid $45 dollar plan giving you extra data. The plan comes with 500MB, but if you are a new customer and purchase the SIM from Wal-Mart you get an additional 500MB....and if you sign up for auto pay you get an additional 500MB. So 1.5GB per month going that route. The thing that's very tempting is from what I've read Verizon Pre-paid is not throtteled at 2-5 Mbps like Staight Talk or Pageplus.
 
I asked if my phone was compatible, in which he said yes but this is the answer I got about buying the BYOP pack and trying to figure out which carrier my phone would be on after activation.

"Unfortunately, we are unable to determine which carrier network your phone will work on. Upon completing the activation of your phone, the system determines which carrier will be used to service your phone. We have no control over this nor do we have any access to any carrier information."

I'll be going to Walmart to pick up the BYOP package today and will report back as I don't get great signal with Verizon at my house.

Ok, it took a few Walmart store hopping to find a BYOP packet but all is well and good. My packet had both CDMA and GSM SIM cards in it. I do get the "4G" to light up (used the CDMA SIM) and it is throttled at 5Mbps on the download but other than that, it works and was painless.
 

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Ok, it took a few Walmart store hopping to find a BYOP packet but all is well and good. My packet had both CDMA and GSM SIM cards in it. I do get the "4G" to light up (used the CDMA SIM) and it is throttled at 5Mbps on the download but other than that, it works and was painless.

The CDMA SIM I got from StraightTalk showed 4G once it was activated and was throttled at 5Mbps down as well. The Verizon Prepaid SIM I got was unthrottled and got a smoking 42.84Mbps down and 20.75Mbps up.
 

jivetrky

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The CDMA SIM I got from StraightTalk showed 4G once it was activated and was throttled at 5Mbps down as well. The Verizon Prepaid SIM I got was unthrottled and got a smoking 42.84Mbps down and 20.75Mbps up.

You mean a StraightTalk using Verizon SIM or actual Verizon Prepaid service?
 

dscblu

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I switched from Verizon to straight talk with straight talks byop (bring your own phone) program. When going from WiFi to cellular data I sometimes have to toggle airplane mode but other than that I have no issues with it and all I did was use the CDMA Sim that came in the byop package, no APN changes at all.

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I just switched from a AT&T SIM on ST to their CDMA LTE on my Galaxy S4 since the coverage is supposedly better where I am for Verizon than AT&T.... But now my data doesn't work at all. It gets a 4G signal and I can make calls and send MMS messages but the phone says the mobile data network is disconnected. I've tried toggling airplane mode, toggling the mobile data setting, restarting it, dialing *22890, re-flashing to an un-rooted ROM... Straight Talk's online support were useless. Any advice? I'm on hold for them now but I suspect their telephone support will also be useless.

---------- Post added at 07:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:46 PM ----------

I just switched from a AT&T SIM on ST to their CDMA LTE on my Galaxy S4 since the coverage is supposedly better where I am for Verizon than AT&T.... But now my data doesn't work at all. It gets a 4G signal and I can make calls and send MMS messages but the phone says the mobile data network is disconnected. I've tried toggling airplane mode, toggling the mobile data setting, restarting it, dialing *22890, re-flashing to an un-rooted ROM... Straight Talk's online support were useless. Any advice? I'm on hold for them now but I suspect their telephone support will also be useless.

Just figured this out, had to change my APN name from tfdata to vzwinternet. Weird considering how everything says you don't need to change your APN settings at all. Oh well!
 

heatherlyn

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So everything works (Thank You) but

Could you explain what you mean by enable all LTE bands? Are some off my default? I had tried Cricket last month and was able to get service and data, however my phone never kicked into 4g where I knew there was service. Fastest connection I got was H+. Thanks.

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In the service menu find the lte bands and select ALL. Go to phone dialer and type (*#27663368378#) i forget where it is so just look around theres all kinds of stuff you can do.

P.S.
Cricket might not let you use lte i know Red Pocket wouldnt let me use it only h+. That is why i switched to Straight Talk.


So everything works (Thank You) but when i dial the number for service menu i get "connection problem or invalid MMI code" I also cannot get rid of the "this card is from unknown source" in notifications. And on my status menu my mobile network type is hspa is that ok normal or ?? and one more thing i cannot update software TY :laugh:
 

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I fired up the Registration/Activation page from Straight Talk, filled out all the info being sure to use the SIM card serial in place of the MEID/IMEI

For real? That's not a typo?

Are you saying that everywhere they asked you for the phone's IMEI, you entered the SIM card# instead?
 
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McTerry

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Updated OP with new APN's.
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Still going strong!
 

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    Well, it worked! I had crossed fingers and a chest full of dread as I began the move from Verizon to Straight Talk. Read many a post that said it could be done, some that said it couldn't, and a few nightmare posts about something going wrong. I did this with a rooted, but otherwise un-modded Galaxy S4. No added ROM's, kernels, or hacked or cracked anything. I'm not even sure you need to root it, but I was bored the other day and thought I would give it a shot.

    I went to Straight Talk and ordered the SIM card kit for the BYOP program which was a $55 investment with the 30 day time card. I chose the AT&T Micro Sim Package which doesn't matter as the SIM I received was a normal sized SIM with a micro break away cut out as well.
    I fired up the Registration/Activation page from Straight Talk, filled out all the info being sure to use the SIM card serial in place of the MEID/IMEI, and ported over my number from Verizon. Verizon has no PIN, you just need to provide them with your Verizon password for your account.
    After that, I called ST which was a PITA, but I wanted to make sure everything went through fine. After hearing the verbal warning about how the SCH-I454 may or may not work with their service, and hearing how there is no refunds for the SIM card or the time card, I said go ahead and activate the SIM. He did so after reading me about three pages of BS and then telling me it could take up to 2 days for the number to be ported.

    I continued to play with the phone with the VZW SIM in it until it went dead (about 30 minutes later), then switched out the SIM and began the conversion.

    Added new APN settings as follows:
    settings/connections/more networks/mobile networks/access point names

    CHECK Updated Photos for Newest APN:
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    These are Older (Do Not Use):
    APN Name: Straight Talk
    APN: tfdata
    Proxy: proxy.mvno.tracfone.com
    Port: 80
    MMSC: http://mms-tf.net
    MMS Proxy: mms3.tracfone.com
    MMS Port: 80
    APN type: default,mms,supl

    Save and restart the phone.
    (Note: At first I had no data, after freaking out and searching the website in a panic. I was starting to lose hope when I looked down and noticed, hey there it is. So just give it a minute or two before you panic.)

    Global Mode Speed Test Results with 2 bars of H service: 253 Ping - 0.98 Mbps Down - 0.58 Mbps Up
    GSM Mode Speed Test Results with 2 bars of H service: 351 Ping - 1.63 Mbps Down - 0.38 Mbps Up

    Global Mode vs. GSM Mode:
    Make sure your phone is set to Global Mode or GSM Mode by going here:
    settings/connections/more networks/mobile networks/network mode


    Voicemail:
    I noticed I had a Voicemail icon, but when I clicked on it, it routed me into the *63 loop of "Call can not be completed, blah blah".
    This is due to Verizon using a different access for voicemail than ST. It is easily fixed.
    Go to settings/my device/call/voicemail settings/voicemail numbers
    and enter your cell number.
    Now when you click on the VM icon or press and hold the 1 key, it will take you to your VM.
    If you have a VM icon stuck on your screen, simply call your cell from a different number, leave a VM, then retrieve and delete it and it should disappear.

    Verizon Bloatware Removal (sort of):
    I figured since I wasn't on Verizon anymore, I could go ahead and get rid of the VZW bloatware all over this thing. There are ways to do it, that I found on these forums but I'm not very savvy when it comes to installing ROM's and such on phones so I chose to just play it safe and go to
    settings/more/applications manager/all
    and Turning Off everything that said or started with "Verizon".

    Day 2: Continuation of Self Education
    So I started receiving annoying pop up messages asking me to sign into my Verizon account. I could menu tab out of it, but it was mucho annoying. So I started digging deeper into this glorious website and the forums and learning about Safe Strap, ROM's, and flashing modules.
    This led me down a bright path.

    I ended up following the directions on this site in regards to installing Safe Strap v3.71 from Hashcode and the RootJunky (Tomsgt) Youtube installation video. Backing up the Stock ROM and then decided on the Hyperdrive RLS14 from sbreen94. Following the directions as outlined in the RootJunky (Tomsgt) YouTube videos, everything installed easily and I had zero issues.
    Now in order to use Safe Strap, you will need root access, but finding that information on here is fairly easy. Easiest way is to search for the Tomsgt post where he links a lot of his videos. I believe it is even a sticky.

    If like me, you are brand new to this whole thing and a little intimidated, it's okay. Just take your time, don't get in any hurry. Watch the installation videos prior to beginning your own installation, and just be careful. You are in good hands here.

    Continued Discovery:
    One of the side effects of switching over to ST from VZW was the addition of having the + sign added to calls in the call log. Now this didn't affect making calls or sending texts via your contact list, but if you tried to call back from the call log, the carrier assumed you were trying to make an international call and would drop it.
    There is no way to fix it via the Calling options in settings but I did find a work around. An app by the name of Prefixer, put out by 253°Below (253below.com).
    With this app, you can set rules to drop the + sign from outgoing and incoming calls. It's still going to show up in your call log, but when you tap a name or missed call to call them back, Prefixer automatically removes the added symbol and everything works like a peach!

    Reclaiming Device Space:
    Flashed HyperDrive RLS15 over the stock ROM this morning. Flashed the Modules before reboot and after install. Only issue I had was TouchWiz Home crashing on occasion, but a kindly soul on here told me it looked like it was an issue associated with restoring data. Although I didn't restore data, I also chose to just flash over the Stock ROM and use the installers Wipe/Factory Reset option instead of wiping the ROM slot first (Dumb move). All I had to do was boot into recovery with SafeStrap and Wipe the new ROM, reboot, and good to go. Now have close to 6Gigs of free space on the Flashed Stock ROM.

    Update 13th April 2014 at 10:52 AM:
    Over a month in now and everything is still working fine!

    Update 30th April 2014 at 06:36 PM:
    Got a new job that takes me all over the state of California and can absolutely confirm that I have 4G LTE from ST on this phone, with the above APN, when I am in an area that supports it.

    Update 25th November 2015 at 03:57 AM:
    Just upgraded to 4.4.2 VRUFNC5 using the info posted by Surge1223, as well as Hyperdrive RLS20 by sbreen94. Everything still working like a charm.
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    I just moved to ST, I am getting Hspa+ speeds most places. I will take that for $45 a month compared to $80+ :D

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
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    Let us know what you do and if it will be on Verizon or att towers I'm also looking to switch.

    I bought the activation kit today. I filled out the registration/activation. I am now waiting for them to port my number over. Fingers crossed.


    Edit: Big Big thanks to the OP. Everything is working. I am getting H+ connection. Ping 171, Download 1.29, Upload 0.47. The only problem I had was that ST didn't port my number for me when I filled out all the info online. I had to call and give them info about my old account to get my number ported from Verizon. I am now so happy I am no longer paying $80 per month. $45 is almost half off. Good riddance to Verizon. Now my next task is to root my phone so I can get rid of all the verizon bloat ware. The OP is right, you'll get a +1 in front of your calls from contacts. I don't understand why that is but for now, I'm just coping and pasting to make calls.

    I also want to reiterate that ST's site tells you this phone is incompatible. You can call them and they will tell you the same. Just follow the OP instructions and it should work. Thanks again to the OP.
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    I just contacted Straight Talk customer service via chat yesterday and asked if Verizon sims were available for 4g Verizon phones. They asked for the MEID and said that my Verizon S4 qualified for the BYOD program. Their customer service said I could put the Verizon S4 on their network. I double verified that I was not going to be sent an AT&T or T-Mobile sim and was told it was a sim for Verizon 4g LTE phones. So, I guess we'll see in the next 7 to 10 days if it is an actual Verizon sim.

    I know they sell Verizon LTE branded Straight Talk phones, so it seems possible. It's kinda of vague when you go on their site to purchase a BYOD sim if your getting a Verizon sim, but they require you enter the MEID and when I tried it I was prompted that my phone qualified. So, that's when I got on the chat to see if this was acurate.
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    I switched to ST with my Verizon s4 everything works great. 4g lte and h+. I use a lil different APN settings tho : Everything is the same except I leave Proxy EMPTY and APN Type i add hipri . The no proxy is so speed tests will work and the hipri is High Priority. The hipri might be why mine stays on 4g lte most of the time and some of you dont. I dont know for sure. The H+ im getting is Dual Cell HSDPA (DC-HSDPA), known also as Dual Carrier 42.2 Mbit/s so even if I didnt have 4g lte here i wouldnt care.

    PS:
    I also enabled all LTE bands in service menu (*#27663368378#)
    LTE Band 4 is whats picking up 4g.

    LTE: Straight Talk
    BAND 2= 1900MHZ
    BAND 4= 1700MHZ
    BAND 12= 700MHZ
    BAND 17=also 700MHZ Freq
    AWS 1700 and PCS 1900 band
    I thought i seen Band 14 active for a second but I can not confirm.
    These are the MAIN BANDS you will get:
    GSM 850/1900,
    UMTS 850/1900,
    LTE bands 17/4

    ALL:
    LTE (4G)
    750 Upper 700 (Verizon) / band 13
    1700 AWS / band 4 (IV)

    WCDMA (3G / 4G)
    850 Cellular / band 5 (V)
    1900 PCS / band 2 (II)
    2100 IMT / band 1 (I)

    CDMA (2G / 3G)
    850 Cellular / BC0
    1900 PCS / BC1

    GSM (2G)
    850
    900
    1800 DCS
    1900 PCS