Xperia Overlay Ah been closed! needs our help!!

yekasangredevago · Apr 25, 2014

Today 25/04/14! Developer: (Achotjan)
Of Recognized Roms (SDE) and the current firmware (Xperia Overlay) To The Xperia Line 2011 (Included Xperia Play Cooming Soon Mod Edit link removed ah this statement on their website:

so they had read in the image ..
the nesecita our help by sending PM to manager (eagleeyetom) to withdraw its decision and that it was unfair ..

I hope all Xplayers community support it ..!

WhiteWashed · Apr 25, 2014

I don't understand why XDA moderators closed their thread but I think that it must have been for a good reason...
Anyway why is this topic on the development forum ? I think general discussion is the right forum for this.

yekasangredevago · Apr 25, 2014

WhiteWashed said:
I don't understand why XDA moderators closed their thread but I think that it must have been for a good reason...
Anyway why is this topic on the development forum ? I think general discussion is the right forum for this.

What happens is that on your page .. the developer says that those who donate, will be able to have the firmware before, but also later, release them FREE to the entire community. I mean that's just to support and encourage hard work.
oh and it's true ... You're right I did hurry and did not realize .. Moderators please move this thread to the General section please ..

twistedumbrella · Apr 26, 2014

yekasangredevago said:
What happens is that on your page .. the developer says that those who donate, will be able to have the firmware before, but also later, release them FREE to the entire community. I mean that's just to support and encourage hard work.

oh and it's true ... You're right I did hurry and did not realize .. Moderators please move this thread to the General section please ..

The application for RD covers more than "Did you release anything?" It also asks how you will help the community in general. Only XDA can sell the work developers contribute here. It's a lot like a university saying they own the rights to your projects. I don't think either side is right, but you know what you're signing up for.

Toasty Clown · Apr 27, 2014

twistedumbrella said:
The application for RD covers more than "Did you release anything?" It also asks how you will help the community in general. Only XDA can sell the work developers contribute here. It's a lot like a university saying they own the rights to your projects. I don't think either side is right, but you know what you're signing up for.

But surely there've been Portal Posts promoting paid apps made by members of this place, that XDA does not profit from? Besides, XDA can't possibly sell an Android ROM, right? I'd like to get the full story on this; I don't like the sound of it at all. What the heck happened that could possibly justify their abuse if it isn't your reason?

pedyvirus · Apr 27, 2014

well he is going to release a free version after one month
developer of dixperia roms did something like this too but why no one told anything to him?

saqibkhan · Apr 27, 2014

XDA doesn't seem to be on the right side of things on this.. atleast they don't sound like they have a logical reason to be right.

Overlay team was doing right,.. that's my opinion.

twistedumbrella · Apr 27, 2014

Toasty Clown said:
But surely there've been Portal Posts promoting paid apps made by members of this place, that XDA does not profit from? Besides, XDA can't possibly sell an Android ROM, right? I'd like to get the full story on this; I don't like the sound of it at all. What the heck happened that could possibly justify their abuse if it isn't your reason?

They do have an area for announcing paid software, but that's the only place it's permitted.
XDA doesn't sell ROMs directly, just advertising and stuff like that.
There could be 1000 reasons, but they're really between the dev and XDA. Only one side of the story is given by a blog post and most people aren't going to admit they were wrong and then ask for donations.

Frutak · Apr 27, 2014

How can we help him? I dont know whats mean this theraed Can someone tell me about this problem

sorry

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korrectmethod · Apr 28, 2014

Frutak said:
How can we help him? I dont know whats mean this theraed Can someone tell me about this problem sorry

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Well known Recognised Developer team that works on 4.4 for Xperia 2011 devices(including xplay), has built their own 4.4.2 firmware. They offer an early access version to people who donate $5 on their website. After 1 month, it all becomes free to the public. Apparently XDA didn't like that, and revoked their recognised developer status and deleted the thread. The development team is asking us to PM the forum administrators and show our disagreement on the matter.

Also, achtojan hasn't posted anything in the past 3 days on xda since this happened, can't blame him.

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ATTACK · Apr 28, 2014

XDA FORUM RULES - #11

korrectmethod · Apr 28, 2014

So basically they should have just made the mandatory donate version on their personal website, then when it goes free they could have posted it on xda and still accept donations. The rules aren't very well laid out concerning this. It certainly doesn't justify revoking their RD status.

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twistedumbrella · Apr 28, 2014

ATTACK said:
XDA FORUM RULES - #11

Number 8 is about as close as possible to saying IT IS AGAINST THE RULES IF

korrectmethod said:
They offer an early access version to people who donate $5 on their website. After 1 month, it all becomes free to the public.

They are lucky it was just a title and thread and not a suspension or ban.

Frutak · Apr 28, 2014

But why we must pay for OS ? When the os should be free.... I dont know but I dont like this idea... Sorry I know may Im crazy...
I know its may his job..

clivejefferies · Apr 28, 2014

I agree. This is against everything that Android and XDA stand for.

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Frutak · Apr 28, 2014

Who send mobile to Achotjan? Because I dont see his work sorry

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krchi · Apr 28, 2014

Frutak said:
But why we must pay for OS ? When the os should be free.... I dont know but I dont like this idea... Sorry I know may Im crazy...
I know its may his job..

omg.... another person... have you even read the thread? its a donated version the free will be here in 1 month... no one is donating to him and yet everyone is complaing

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Frutak said:
Who send mobile to Achotjan? Because I dont see his work sorry

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this seriously doesnt make sense i dont know what youre trying to say so i cant really reply to this

korrectmethod · Apr 28, 2014

twistedumbrella said:
Number 8 is about as close as possible to saying IT IS AGAINST THE RULES IF

They are lucky it was just a title and thread and not a suspension or ban.

They didn't technically break rule number 8. The development team isn't saying "donate now and in a month you will receive it". They're saying donate now and receive it immediately, or wait and get it for free. Or is that still not allowed? I've seen many paid services on XDA, I guess the teams main mistake was posting it on XDA instead of just their website.
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ATTACK · Apr 28, 2014

korrectmethod said:
They didn't technically break rule number 8. The development team isn't saying "donate now and in a month you will receive it". They're saying donate now and receive it immediately, or wait and get it for free. Or is that still not allowed? I've seen many paid services on XDA, I guess the teams main mistake was posting it on XDA instead of just their website.
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The problem is, that all of they're firmware can only be obtained for a fee. That is against the rules. If they posted a link to a donate and free version then it would be fine, but everything they linked to is for money. Not OK.

Toasty Clown · Apr 28, 2014

That makes sense. If that's really the case, I'm on XDA's side.

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