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I just got an email from someone who needs help with their Factory Cable. Below is the direct Quote.

My KF seems dead. If I press and hold the power button( whether for a moment or a minute) nothing happens. When I plug it into the computer or the charger, it flashes the firefirefire screen for a moment, then shudowns for a moment, then flashes the FFF screen again. It continues to do this indefinitely.

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If anyone has any ideas for them to try I would appreciate it. Thanks.

SkOrPn


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yes - the battery is empty !!!
charge it with the wall charger for some hours

try to power it off on the wall charger by holding the power button for ~20sec to allow the kf to charge
 
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don't think so - defect batteries are quite rare - there are a lot of threads from people that had this issue - was allways the same - empty battery - charging allways solved the problem

the repeatent on/off is typical - what happens:
kf tries to start - battery breaks down - kf tries to start - battery ...
 
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b63 said:
don't think so - defect batteries are quite rare - there are a lot of threads from people that had this issue - was allways the same - empty battery - charging allways solved the problem

the repeatent on/off is typical - what happens:
kf tries to start - battery breaks down - kf tries to start - battery ...
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Ahh Ok cool, if he does not see this then I will reply to his next email with this information. Thanks bud...
 
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UPDATE:

My customer in Bangkok Thailand just received his Factory Cable. I shipped it on Feb 6th, and he received it early on the 15th I believe (according to his email). So, what's that? 8 or 9 days or so? Well USPS states 5-10 days to any country so I guess that works out about right then.

Thankfully it revived his KF without issues. w00t

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Thank you smirkis.

Well two more kindle user's are happy to report the cable worked great. But unfortunately one of our kindles here is being shy again (or stubborn lol) and not accepting the Micro connector. This is the first device to have such a inconsistent port like this. After thousands sold for Samsung devices and not one report of a tight fit its weird that I have had so many not fit the Kindle after only 50 sold.

Has anyone else noticed if the fit is simply to tight?

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too tight? no, its snug tho. nothing a giggle can't handle. I've used it on 4 different kindles. they've all been snug, but went in

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it's tighter than the usual micro usb cables (eg nokia) but it fits in
therefor i allways handle it on the plug - never ever on the cable (like described by SkOrPn)
had to look twice at first use if i'm plugging in the right direction
if your shure about the direction use a bit of force - the second time plug in is way easier
 
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b63 said:
you dispatched it on the 26th and i got it on 1st - great !
it's very well packed and in perfect shape - see the picture

just tested - worked like charme

thanks again !
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@SkOrPn; @b63
B63 Thanks for your recommendation to get the factory cable from SkOrPn, which I did and I got the cable yesterday. As instructed plugged into my Kindle Fire first and then the my laptop. In one shot I got the fastboot and now I am a happy camper.
SkOrPn-Special thanks for making those cables and making them available for user like me. It is a solid cable and the packing & delivery are truly remarkable.
Once again thank you for saving my KF.
 
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Well peeps it looks like audiomixman can't get his KF into fastboot either.

Is there a guide I can copy / paste in all the pm's I keep getting by chance? I don't know how to use this cable but people keep asking me how to use it and I don't have the time to reply to everyone. Be easier if I could just paste the instructions lol.

Thanks

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SkOrPn said:
Well peeps it looks like audiomixman can't get his KF into fastboot either.

Is there a guide I can copy / paste in all the pm's I keep getting by chance? I don't know how to use this cable but people keep asking me how to use it and I don't have the time to reply to everyone. Be easier if I could just paste the instructions lol.

Thanks

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I'd be willing to write one as soon as I can get me hand on a cable. I think I have a unique case that might similar to the few whom are having trouble. My KF is actually NOT rooted at the moment, with a KF logo, and shell is gone. If I can restore this thing I think Ill be KF God, LOL!

I did quite a bit of work before I pulled CM7 off (which it toasted there after). Once I get it back running I'm going to post all I did on my blog on my website.

SkOrPn do you have cables available
 
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Yes, I have like 7 left here at the moment, and 60 more on the way from Monoprice later this week. They did not sell as good as I had hoped but good enough to continue restocking the materials to make them. I am not interested in ripping people off so I only ask for $14.95 and I will pay for the shipping out of that myself.

If you can produce a really fantastic guide, and or fool proof how-to I can paste into any emails or PM's I receive I would be willing to refund you fair and square. I just feel bad telling people to look elsewhere when they ask me questions like that, but I cant be giving out advice unless I know 100% what I'm talking about. I'm a computer enthusiast, Samsung and HTC smartphone geek, and just dont know much about the KF or Motorola for that matter.

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You must insert cable, then switch off kindle by pressing button about 20sec and press once again, kindle will be in fastboot.
test with "fastboot devices" and "fastboot getvar product"
After kindle will be in fastboot, with Kindle Fire Utility install TWRP recovery and with recovey install prerooted stock or CM7 firmware.

this assumes that the correct drivers are installed
watch device manager, has to be "android adb interface" under "android phone"
if not update the drivers:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22342376&postcount=6
 
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agreed - to make shure it's the same procedure for all bootloaders (also the stock bootloader) the sentence should be:
test with "fastboot getvar product"
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don't make sence to verify twice (just copied and pasted from elsewhere)
 
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Hey guys I have 60 more cables on the way. This time I ordered 30 of them to be twice as long at 3ft lengths. The next size up from 3ft is 6ft and I think that's too long for our needs here.

So I will have 37 1.5ft cables and 30 3ft cables in stock here soon ;)


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    pyrostic said:
    Was just thinking. If you used a female breakout board with a male breakout board you could essentially ground the male boards ground to the male boards vcc. And the female boards ground to the male boards ground as well.

    This way you could leave vcc hanging (capped of course) from the female source (computer) side.


    Hope this sparks some good conversation :).
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    This will NOT work, as the female breakout boards from Sparkfun does NOT have a breakout trace for pin 4 present. Only the male breakout boards have all 5 pins/traces needed. I've purchased hundreds of both and sold thousands of download mode JIG's for Samsung phones, and was forced to modify the female breakout boards to include a pin 4 trace for special projects of mine. I do not know if they since added the trace or not and its been over a year now since I asked for this feature.

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    There is a lot of information floating around about the factory cable but there doesn't seem to be a thread dedicated to the topic. I bricked my device today so I need to make a factory cable. I tried making a cable but I f'd up the soldering job so I am awaiting delivery of a breakout board. I just wanted to gather some information here on the topic because there seem to be a lot of bricks popping up around here. So for now I am going to post what I know and ask a few questions here and there so that I can get my cable done and hopefully help someone out along the way.

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    Anubisx2k7 said:
    Does anyone know if Skorpn is still producing these cables?
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