Manual Nooter Sort of Works on 1.4.1

roustabout · Dec 12, 2011

I'm looking a bit more at rooting via manual nooter on OS 1.4.1.

As of now, the Android Market is not working

In my hands, the BN shop is also not working. Books cannot be downloaded. (The reader does work, though, so you can shop and then download to your PC, then push the files in manually if you like.)

Together, those two elements not working argue against rooting 1.4.1 for anything other than study and development, I think.

- 1.4.1 installs on a device which had already been rooted (this device is rooted but not overclocked.)

- boot from a manual nooter 4-5-18 disks works

- after applying MN 4.5.18 and the APK enabler, the device booted. Root was retained and SU works fine (I was able to use adb wireless)

- install via ADB works

Other things to be aware of:

- this is not a Gingerbread release for the NC.

- the home button behavior is changed a LOT. Home Catcher for the Nook Tablet will also work here, though.

- the device automagically snarfs Google contacts if it's registered to a gmail address, it seems. There is no warning on that. I think that behavior is a Big Effing Problem.

MentalDragon · Dec 12, 2011

About to try hopefully it works. I know I couldnt install update on 1.3 with CWM going back to complete stock and then update and then MN.

roustabout · Dec 12, 2011

Yes, if CWR is written to your boot, you cannot install BN updates.

It might be possible to use a flashable 1.3 installer to write only /boot, reboot, then update to 1.4.1. I know there is a flashable 1.3, but I do not know where it lives.

MentalDragon · Dec 12, 2011

roustabout said:
Yes, if CWR is written to your boot, you cannot install BN updates.

It might be possible to use a flashable 1.3 installer to write only /boot, reboot, then update to 1.4.1. I know there is a flashable 1.3, but I do not know where it lives.

Yeah I went back to 1.3 stock and then to 1.4.1 update.

mejack03 · Dec 12, 2011

It would be nice if some one conforms about Market

roustabout · Dec 12, 2011

"It would be if some one conforms about Market"

Yeah, wouldn't it?

I'm figuring from the lack of screaming it's probably working.

MentalDragon · Dec 13, 2011

Market is up. Some apps still missing. Having a bit of problem with Zeam launcher. Nook launcher is taking control.

Straight from my ICS i897 Sonic Screwdriver!!!!!

nookerrooter · Dec 13, 2011

So from a rooted 1.3.1 you:

Use CWM to install a vanilla 1.3 ROM, then update to 1.4.1 via B&N download, then root using only 4.5.18? I seem to remember to root 1.3.1 you needed to root with 4.5.16 and then 4.5.18.

roustabout · Dec 13, 2011

I have been able to use 4-5-18 without any problems on both 1.2 and 1.3.

You may not even need to install the vanilla ROM - you may well be able to install to a rooted device, so long as you have not meddled with /boot, either by installing a CWR boot internally or by overclocking.

My fast experiment this morning involved updating a rooted 1.3, then rooting that resulting 1.4.1.

tsukisan · Dec 13, 2011

Anyone check to see if it will still boot from an SD card, just want to confirm before update, but because it is still rootable I can always downgrade.

Edit: I am in the process of updating as I type this, I will post the results in case anyone else needs them.

boomn · Dec 13, 2011

tsukisan said:
Anyone check to see if it will still boot from an SD card, just want to confirm before update, but because it is still rootable I can always downgrade.

Others have tested and confirmed, but that's not something they can change on this device with a software update anyway

tsukisan · Dec 13, 2011

Good to know, I hadn't seen it yet but my testing confirms this, thanks for the reply

wtmann · Dec 13, 2011

MentalDragon said:
Market is up. Some apps still missing. Having a bit of problem with Zeam launcher. Nook launcher is taking control.

Straight from my ICS i897 Sonic Screwdriver!!!!!

In my case the Market runs but it's totally useless: I can't see my apps, it doesn't find most of what I want to install and when it does I can't install anything (it just goes back to the Apps menu). So it totally sucks since the B&N market is really lame!

magicland · Dec 13, 2011

nookerrooter said:
So from a rooted 1.3.1 you:

Use CWM to install a vanilla 1.3 ROM, then update to 1.4.1 via B&N download, then root using only 4.5.18? I seem to remember to root 1.3.1 you needed to root with 4.5.16 and then 4.5.18.

For whatever reason, many Nook Colors that come stock with 1.3 installed just bootloop if rooted with 4.6.16, even if rooted first with 4.5.18. I can confirm this with a new NC purchased for my girlfriend's mom. Runs OK if just rooted with 4.5.18, except for it having the ancient market. Haven't been able to update the market yet, though gmail will update itself.

Updated to 1.4.1 (had to return to stock 1.3 to install the update, even without CWM flashed), using homecatcher to overcome the new "n" button "feature", but market is hit and miss. Was able to download and install Astro, but Titanium Backup doesn't want to download and install. I'll try sideloading it later.

RSchmauk · Dec 13, 2011

What's the new n button feature? Is it possible to make a flashable update, like with 1.2 and 1.3?

magicland · Dec 13, 2011

RSchmauk said:
What's the new n button feature? Is it possible to make a flashable update, like with 1.2 and 1.3?

If you press it once, it brings up the B&N "dock" that used to be at the bottom of the screen. If you press it twice, it brings up the B&N launcher.

Correction, I thought I was able to download Astro from market, but apparently I didn't. Now I've got no way to sideload apps, which makes this pretty useless...

c0ldburn3r · Dec 13, 2011

magicland said:
If you press it once, it brings up the B&N "dock" that used to be at the bottom of the screen. If you press it twice, it brings up the B&N launcher.

Correction, I thought I was able to download Astro from market, but apparently I didn't. Now I've got no way to sideload apps, which makes this pretty useless...

ADB commands are your friend!

Pretty much as long as you can enable ADB you can sideload with zero issues.

magicland · Dec 14, 2011

c0ldburn3r said:
ADB commands are your friend! Pretty much as long as you can enable ADB you can sideload with zero issues.

I realize this, but this nook is a gift for my girlfriend's mom, who lives out of state, and I know there's no way she's going to sideload everything using ADB... I need to get her a working market, even if I've got to go back to 1.3 and disable the update.

badgermac · Dec 14, 2011

Ended up using 4.5.18 on my stock 1.3 NC. ADB Sideloaded in the Kindle app and a couple others and used the Nook App Manager to drop icons out on the main stock launcher page. I was really looking to add teh Kindle app so I could read all my purchased books on a single device, so I'm quite content. I'd like to see better market, etc but it's not a dealbreaker for me.

bobstro · Dec 18, 2011

Just in case someone follows this thread, rooted 1.4.1 is working well now. manualnooter-5-12-18.zip does it for ya.

Market works. You can add non-B&N apps to the B&N app and home screens using Nook Color App Manager. Putting the Kindle app on there is no problem. Netflix, HBO GO and Max GO work. Hulu Plus refuses to run on the device. B&N subscriptions download and update the dock. B&N enhanced content (e.g. Wired magazine) work fine.

If non-techie friends and family want an enhanced B&N Nook Walled Garden experience, this will do it!

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