[ROM][SGH-I777][4.0.4] CyanogenMod 9 nightly builds | DISCUSSION THREAD

void.pointer · Apr 22, 2012

I've done some reading and see that other people have brought up this issue but I'm still confused. My external SD card is mounted at /mnt/sdcard which is confusing all of my apps. I want my internal storage to use that path since I have very little space on my external one and do not like apps writing to it. I did a full wipe after upgrading so what can I do to fix this?

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thracemerin · Apr 22, 2012

void.pointer said:
I've done some reading and see that other people have brought up this issue but I'm still confused. My external SD card is mounted at /mnt/sdcard which is confusing all of my apps. I want my internal storage to use that path since I have very little space on my external one and do not like apps writing to it. I did a full wipe after upgrading so what can I do to fix this?

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Go to Settings->Storage hit menu key Storage Settings->Use Internal Storage

this will change internal to /sdcard and external to /emmc.

mgd76 · Apr 22, 2012

just found this out myself

Try checking your advanced storage settings, you can select internal or external. Or wait till the experts wake up...

Damn! Ninja'd by an expert! Lol

TheDude · Apr 22, 2012

None of the above are working solutions. There is still something wrong here. I don't really care what my mounts are called as long as they function properly.

In my mind the external sdcard is a storage solution. It holds my pictures, music, video, and anything else large that my system generates gets saved there or moved there. The internal sdcard holds all temp data and everything else.

As we have progressed through these mount changes over the last few days none of the them have changed the underlying problem that the system is still writing all temp/cache files to my external sdcard. Does not matter what they are named for some reason the device keeps writing my maps, voice, dolphin browser, root explorer, etc cache files to my external sd. If I unmount it everything keeps working fine as well which confuses me. I have wiped the setting for the apps and deleted their temp directories but regardless as soon as my external sdcard is mounted they continue writing there.

I guess this isn't a huge issue but it makes a total mess of my external sdcard, the only place on my device that in the past I could actually keep organized.

So I guess what I was expecting to see was...

internal sdcard (emmc) continue as always holding app data and cache
external sdcard (sdcard) storing my files, music, pictures, etc and NOT acting as a temporary location for app data/cache

I am not *****ing, just trying to explain this issue as well as I can. CM9 rocks my socks!

Does this make any sense? Am I the only one with this issue? Please advise

patsmike · Apr 22, 2012

thedude420 said:
None of the above are working solutions. There is still something wrong here. I don't really care what my mounts are called as long as they function properly.

Does the new nightly 4/22 fix this issue?

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TheDude · Apr 22, 2012

patsmike said:
Does the new nightly 4/22 fix this issue?

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Nope, 4/22 does not resolve the issue. It changes the naming convention but for whatever reason whether my external sdcard is called emmc or sdcard the system writes its cache files to it

LamboDroid19 · Apr 22, 2012

I got the dreaded android.process.media has stopped again after a day and a half. I got it when I went to download something from the browser. I immediately full wiped and starting over again for the 3rd time in a week

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aphlipot · Apr 22, 2012

void.pointer said:
I've done some reading and see that other people have brought up this issue but I'm still confused. My external SD card is mounted at /mnt/sdcard which is confusing all of my apps. I want my internal storage to use that path since I have very little space on my external one and do not like apps writing to it. I did a full wipe after upgrading so what can I do to fix this?

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I am having a similar issue, all of the apps on my external SD card whenever I click them it tells me the app is not installed. However, all the music located on my SD card seem to work completely fine, its weird to say the least. I haven't found a solution yet, nothing here seems to have worked to fix the issue so far. I am running nightly 4/21.

EDIT: Running 4/22 now, no change. It only happened after a restart that the apps said they weren't installed, however their icons are still on my home screen, But they are no longer in my apps drawer. It just lost track of where they were.

trell959 · Apr 22, 2012

apanihi said:
May I ask how much undervolted?

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Only -50. I usually go -75, but my phone ends up freezing.

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apanihi · Apr 22, 2012

trell959 said:
Only -50. I usually go -75, but my phone ends up freezing.

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Seems I can only do -40 anything higher = crash.

thracemerin · Apr 22, 2012

thedude420 said:
None of the above are working solutions. There is still something wrong here. I don't really care what my mounts are called as long as they function properly.

In my mind the external sdcard is a storage solution. It holds my pictures, music, video, and anything else large that my system generates gets saved there or moved there. The internal sdcard holds all temp data and everything else.

As we have progressed through these mount changes over the last few days none of the them have changed the underlying problem that the system is still writing all temp/cache files to my external sdcard. Does not matter what they are named for some reason the device keeps writing my maps, voice, dolphin browser, root explorer, etc cache files to my external sd. If I unmount it everything keeps working fine as well which confuses me. I have wiped the setting for the apps and deleted their temp directories but regardless as soon as my external sdcard is mounted they continue writing there.

I guess this isn't a huge issue but it makes a total mess of my external sdcard, the only place on my device that in the past I could actually keep organized.

So I guess what I was expecting to see was...

internal sdcard (emmc) continue as always holding app data and cache
external sdcard (sdcard) storing my files, music, pictures, etc and NOT acting as a temporary location for app data/cache

I am not *****ing, just trying to explain this issue as well as I can. CM9 rocks my socks!

Does this make any sense? Am I the only one with this issue? Please advise

This is an issue with apps looking for a mount named /mnt/sdcard to put their data and cache, mainly due to bad authoring where this value is hardcoded rather than asking the system where the correct place to put this is, unfortunately this can't be solved in the way you're hoping by the ROM since it's the apps that make the decision. The only ROM level decision is what /mnt/sdcard actually refers to internal or external.

TheDude · Apr 22, 2012

thracemerin said:
This is an issue with apps looking for a mount named /mnt/sdcard to put their data and cache, mainly due to bad authoring where this value is hardcoded rather than asking the system where the correct place to put this is, unfortunately this can't be solved in the way you're hoping by the ROM since it's the apps that make the decision. The only ROM level decision is what /mnt/sdcard actually refers to internal or external.

With all do respect, I believe you are wrong about this.

If that is the case, then RomManager, Google Maps, Google Voice, etc are guilty of "bad authoring" .

thracemerin · Apr 22, 2012

thedude420 said:
With all do respect, I believe you are wrong about this.

If that is the case, then RomManager, Google Maps, Google Voice, etc are guilty of "bad authoring" .

Bad authoring was perhaps a bad choice of words, but apps try to put their cache on whatever mount is called /mnt/sdcard there is no way to fix this at the ROM level, it was discussed at length in the GT-I9100 thread.

Edit: I wanted what you're suggesting too and some people with more knowledge of the situation than I said it wasn't possible, so I took them at their word.

tmckenn2 · Apr 22, 2012

thracemerin said:
This is an issue with apps looking for a mount named /mnt/sdcard to put their data and cache, mainly due to bad authoring where this value is hardcoded rather than asking the system where the correct place to put this is, unfortunately this can't be solved in the way you're hoping by the ROM since it's the apps that make the decision. The only ROM level decision is what /mnt/sdcard actually refers to internal or external.

Im going to +1 this. The change was very simple, the mount points switched. This happened on nightly 20. Then what happened, after a large amount of b#t$hing and moaning a "solution was made". The solution is that the java environment tag can be switched. So instead of mnt/emmc and mnt/sdcard being called the tag EXTERNAL_STORAGE and INTERNAL_STORAGE should be called by the apps... I would not assume that because google voice is made by google that it utilizes the proper conventions. The recent 3.2 debocal on the portal is a perfect example of a big company taking sortcuts to a problem instead of fixing it (in reference to samsung). And i would hold that rom manager is an even bigger exception for two reasons one, that is a old app from the beginning of time made by a dev who only spends his free time on it, and it uses storage differently because of the nature of the app.

CyberpunkDad · Apr 22, 2012

Did a full wipe on 4/20 and 4/21. Applied 4/22 like usual without wipe. Seems good so far. On 4/20 the used internal storage under storage options was not checked (after full wipe). After full wipe on 4/21 it was checked. On 4/22 remained checked.

I've taken to formatting internal when I do a full wipe as well. I always double check in cwm to make sure what IT thinks is internal really is

One nice thing about full wiping is it gets rid of a lot of crap that accumulates.

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thracemerin · Apr 22, 2012

tmckenn2 said:
Im going to +1 this. The change was very simple, the mount points switched. This happened on nightly 20. Then what happened, after a large amount of b#t$hing and moaning a "solution was made". The solution is that the java environment tag can be switched. So instead of mnt/emmc and mnt/sdcard being called the tag EXTERNAL_STORAGE and INTERNAL_STORAGE should be called by the apps... I would not assume that because google voice is made by google that it utilizes the proper conventions. The recent 3.2 debocal on the portal is a perfect example of a big company taking sortcuts to a problem instead of fixing it (in reference to samsung). And i would hold that rom manager is an even bigger exception for two reasons one, that is a old app from the beginning of time made by a dev who only spends his free time on it, and it uses storage differently because of the nature of the app.

The problem of mounting is made worse when the hardware manufacturers do things like name internal memory /sdcard and external /sdcard/external_sd (looking at you samsung), if everyone used proper Linux standard mount points this wouldn't be such an annoying issue.

killman2659 · Apr 22, 2012

I'm still on the 4-13 nightly lol. I'm guessing I shouldn't update to 4-22?

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thracemerin · Apr 22, 2012

killman2659 said:
I'm still on the 4-13 nightly lol. I'm guessing I shouldn't update to 4-22?

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Going to have to deal with the mount point change at some point, why not now? They aren't going to revert it.

naturefreak85 · Apr 22, 2012

thedude420 said:
Nope, 4/22 does not resolve the issue. It changes the naming convention but for whatever reason whether my external sdcard is called emmc or sdcard the system writes its cache files to it

Check Settings -> Storage, press Menu go to Storage Configuration. Is Internal SD checked? Mine is and it keeps the files on the internal card not external.

rytymu · Apr 22, 2012

thedude420 said:
None of the above are working solutions. There is still something wrong here. I don't really care what my mounts are called as long as they function properly.

In my mind the external sdcard is a storage solution. It holds my pictures, music, video, and anything else large that my system generates gets saved there or moved there. The internal sdcard holds all temp data and everything else.

As we have progressed through these mount changes over the last few days none of the them have changed the underlying problem that the system is still writing all temp/cache files to my external sdcard. Does not matter what they are named for some reason the device keeps writing my maps, voice, dolphin browser, root explorer, etc cache files to my external sd. If I unmount it everything keeps working fine as well which confuses me. I have wiped the setting for the apps and deleted their temp directories but regardless as soon as my external sdcard is mounted they continue writing there.

I guess this isn't a huge issue but it makes a total mess of my external sdcard, the only place on my device that in the past I could actually keep organized.

So I guess what I was expecting to see was...

internal sdcard (emmc) continue as always holding app data and cache
external sdcard (sdcard) storing my files, music, pictures, etc and NOT acting as a temporary location for app data/cache

I am not *****ing, just trying to explain this issue as well as I can. CM9 rocks my socks!

Does this make any sense? Am I the only one with this issue? Please advise

+1

On my stock ROM, I had all of my app data downloaded to the internal memory (at least I think), and all of my pictures, videos, and music/ringtones on the SD card so I can switch phones easily. I could care less about re-downloading app data again. There's no way to split the two up? As in apps install to the internal memory, and just have an option to run the media scanner on the external card?

I should say "apps" or "app data" as in the extra file some games require, obviously secure storage is for the app itself...

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