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clorbag

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so i was watching youtube and this guy did a few tests, antutu quadrant etc.the nexus 5 didnt even score as high as s4 on any of them.
is this because of 4.4? dunno just seems really odd a phone equipped the way it is wouldnt make good scores. ik they are mostly superficial but it kinda does matter to me.
 

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so i was watching youtube and this guy did a few tests, antutu quadrant etc.the nexus 5 didnt even score as high as s4 on any of them.
is this because of 4.4? dunno just seems really odd a phone equipped the way it is wouldnt make good scores. ik they are mostly superficial but it kinda does matter to me.

Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!

I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.

So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.
 
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It's the same reason why you don't solely judge a football team by total yards. There's much more to the story.

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clorbag

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yeah i thought they were odd. i had phones that were powerful that didnt score well. and phones with less power scoring insane. its really for bragging rights among friends. but its something i seem to use every time i get a new phone. that also explains why some stock roms making better scores then some of the better custom ones.
 

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I don't know why this still has to be said every time a new phone is released, but here we go... Benchmark scores mean absolutely NOTHING in real world usability/performance. Stop worrying about it and enjoy your phone (whenever you get it).
 

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Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!

I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.

So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.

Actually the same investigators who have brought the benchmark goosing issues to light have already said the neither Motorola nor Apple does this. So some companies benchmarked still hold true.
 
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Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!

I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.

According to Anandtech the performance gain of the "optimizations" is about 5%. So, not much.

And about Apple, what they do is optimize their software for specific benchmarks. Even worse IMO. ;)
 
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He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.

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WHO CARES! Yes, I agree that it shouldn't be benchmarking so low with the same processor as the note 3 and g2, but in real world use, this thing probably flies like the Nexus 4.

I haven't actually used the device, so I actually have no clue if it's fast or not, but according to all the reviews and hands on's, it's fast.

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Reminds me of The Kardashians...lots of fake drama, ultimately meaning nothing.

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He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.

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My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.
 

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My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.

Completely agree. :good:
 

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Benchmarks are so misunderstood.

Benchmarks won't tell ya how smooth a device will be, at least with hardware within a year or 2 of each other. And that's simply cuz modern hardware will run most any semi well coded os smoothly.

Benchmarks will give ya a real good idea how long a device will take to zip or unzip files, or recode or edit that hd video you just took, or run that 3d intensive game, and many others things.

So ya see, benchmarks can be meaningless, and can be most informative. Depends on what your talking about, and the trolls never say what they are taking about. Merrily we troll along ......... troll along ......... troll along .......
 
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knucklesmckay

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My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.

Doesn't matter to me. Real world performance is all I need. They shouldn't be low though if the g2 is getting 1,000s of points higher. I am sure everything will be fine though when I get mine and test it out.

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He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.

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But it was the Same with the Nexus 4. the Xperia Z blew it away even with same specs. Which is more evidence that benchmarks are useless.

One thing I can't help but wonder is how much would a iPhone score with a snapdragon 800 :eek:
 

clorbag

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some of you are taking this out of context and making it more then it needs to be. all i want to know is why its not scoring as high as expected or to comparable devices. i don't care if benchmark tests mean anything or not.
 

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Most synthetic benchmarks are useless and misleading. The only ones I pay attention to are ones based on real game engines like Epic Citadel and Anomaly 2. Can anyone share benchmark results for these two at highest settings?
 

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    I don't know why this still has to be said every time a new phone is released, but here we go... Benchmark scores mean absolutely NOTHING in real world usability/performance. Stop worrying about it and enjoy your phone (whenever you get it).
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    He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.

    Sent from my SGH-I747

    My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?

    I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.
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    so i was watching youtube and this guy did a few tests, antutu quadrant etc.the nexus 5 didnt even score as high as s4 on any of them.
    is this because of 4.4? dunno just seems really odd a phone equipped the way it is wouldnt make good scores. ik they are mostly superficial but it kinda does matter to me.

    Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!

    I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.

    So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.
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    Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!

    I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.

    So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.

    Actually the same investigators who have brought the benchmark goosing issues to light have already said the neither Motorola nor Apple does this. So some companies benchmarked still hold true.
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    Nexus devices do not "optimize" (Read: cheat) benchmark tests. Other devices, especially Samsung ones, do. They will clock themselves higher and longer when running benchmarks than they do when running any other app (even games). It makes the cheating devices look better despite equal hardware.

    Long story short, don't look at benchmarks because even at their best, they're outright invalid.