[Q} ODIN and stock Firmware Update (wth knox)

umberto.sulla · Sep 24, 2013

I updated 3 weeks ago to BTU MH8 with knox components and all is perfect., Knox warranty 0x00....
Since my phone originally was ITV (Italy) I'd like to recover the original CSC to ITV with the new firmare ITV MHB released today.

Is there any problem, with knox installed, to flash MHB with Odin? I'm going to sell my S4 and I prefer to return it to the original status.

Thank you
Umberto

oxfordmark · Sep 24, 2013

umberto.sulla said:
I updated 3 weeks ago to BTU MH8 with knox components and all is perfect., Knox warranty 0x00....
Since my phone originally was ITV (Italy) I'd like to recover the original CSC to ITV with the new firmare ITV MHB released today.

Is there any problem, with knox installed, to flash MHB with Odin? I'm going to sell my S4 and I prefer to return it to the original status.

Thank you
Umberto

I would like to know if you can flash with KNOX (using ODIN)?

DjeMBeY · Sep 24, 2013

Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..

umberto.sulla · Sep 24, 2013

DjeMBeY said:
Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..

Thank you for you isimple answer... I only want to be sure that changing CSC from BTU to DTM to ITV etc (going ahead with fw versions) is allowed ...
I don't want to brick my device

Obagleyfreer · Sep 24, 2013

DjeMBeY said:
Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..

Are you 100% sure about that?
I heard once you have KNOX warranty void 0x1 then no matter what firmware you're trying to flash Odin will fail. Even if it's a newer firmware.
I hope you're right and they're wrong.

DjeMBeY · Sep 24, 2013

Obagleyfreer said:
Are you 100% sure about that?
I heard once you have KNOX warranty void 0x1 then no matter what firmware you're trying to flash Odin will fail. Even if it's a newer firmware.
I hope you're right and they're wrong.

??? What are you talking about??

I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1

umberto.sulla · Sep 24, 2013

DjeMBeY said:
??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1

Ok, updated to MHB through Odin and no problem.

Status Knox Warranty still 0x00

DjeMBeY · Sep 24, 2013

umberto.sulla said:
Ok, updated to MHB through Odin and no problem.

Status Knox Warranty still 0x00

Yeah, DO NOT flash any Custom Recovery nor Root and your status will stay at 0x0..

You can flash any newer FW but think twice as you can't go back if you don't like it...

Diomorgan · Sep 24, 2013

No knox voice in my download mode:

is it hidden or is normal until you flash the new knox bootloader?

DjeMBeY · Sep 24, 2013

Diomorgan said:
No knox voice in my download mode:
....
is it hidden or is normal until you flash the new knox bootloader?

You have OLD bootloader, no KNOX in it... You're safe for now..
BTW, your Download Mode will look different after you flash new FW..

Diomorgan · Sep 24, 2013

DjeMBeY said:
You have OLD bootloader, no KNOX in it... You're safe for now..
BTW, your Download Mode will look different after you flash new FW..

Thank you for the fast answer, so I'll wait untill you'll release the superslim MI1 to keep my old bootloader

mkh.mourad · Sep 24, 2013

Do you have any picture for the new knox counter on the bootloader of MH8?

DjeMBeY · Sep 24, 2013

mkh.mourad said:
Do you have any picture for the new knox counter on the bootloader of MH8?

It's NOT a counter, it's flag, stays at 0x1 no matter how many times you flash..

here is the picture http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45877809&postcount=108

mkh.mourad · Sep 24, 2013

DjeMBeY said:
It's NOT a counter, it's flag, stays at 0x1 no matter how many times you flash..
here is the picture http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45877809&postcount=108

hmmmmm

That's a great problem. I stay using my UBMGA firmware.

Obagleyfreer · Sep 25, 2013

DjeMBeY said:
??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1

But you didn't flash the bootloader, did you?
So if you have new bootloader and knox 0x1 status you can still flash stock firmware in Odin and run it fine, even with stock kernel?

DjeMBeY · Sep 25, 2013

mkh.mourad said:
hmmmmm
That's a great problem. I stay using my UBMGA firmware.

You can install latest XXUDMI1 but CWM version as bootloader won't be flashed..

Obagleyfreer said:
But you didn't flash the bootloader, did you?
So if you have new bootloader and knox 0x1 status you can still flash stock firmware in Odin and run it fine, even with stock kernel?

I'm using pre-rooted MI1 (Odin version) with latest bootloader so yes, you can.

@ both of you
Check my thread in Development section for more informations

mkh.mourad · Sep 25, 2013

Thanks

Painman1963 · Sep 25, 2013

On the S3 if I used MobileOdin to flash a new Rom it wouldn't update the bootloader. Can someone confirm the same is true on the S4?

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4

Obagleyfreer · Sep 25, 2013

DjeMBeY said:
You can install latest XXUDMI1 but CWM version as bootloader won't be flashed..

I'm using pre-rooted MI1 (Odin version) with latest bootloader so yes, you can.

@ both of you
Check my thread in Development section for more informations

Awesome thanks dude, and we can find this Mi1 firmware in your thread?

ultramag69 · Sep 25, 2013

Painman1963 said:
On the S3 if I used MobileOdin to flash a new Rom it wouldn't update the bootloader. Can someone confirm the same is true on the S4?

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4

That would probably be an instant KNOX warranty void due to the fact that Mobile ODIN only runs on rooted devices...
But I'm not gonna experiment with it due to the uncertainty of it...

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