[Q] S OFF Help please

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dug13

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I am rooted unlocked. I have tried to get s off using revone and it failed. I have the M7 with HBOOT 1.57 and software 5.03.651.3, sense 6. I can not find a method to gain S OFF for this setup. Can someone tell me if there is a way?

I also cannot install xposed frame work following the instructions for the HTC One apk and .zip.

Am I alone or are others having the same issues?
TIA
 

Aldo101t

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I am rooted unlocked. I have tried to get s off using revone and it failed. I have the M7 with HBOOT 1.57 and software 5.03.651.3, sense 6. I can not find a method to gain S OFF for this setup. Can someone tell me if there is a way?

I also cannot install xposed frame work following the instructions for the HTC One apk and .zip.

Am I alone or are others having the same issues?
TIA

you'll have to use firewater or sunshine to get s-off with that hboot.
 

Aldo101t

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I am on stock kit kat, will firewater work with 1.57?
Also has anybody sett up xposed framework on a 5.03.651.3 software with hboot 1.57?

I think firewater will work with a custom kernel

as far as xposed it should work ok. I've been using it right along but I have an engineered bootloader.shouldn't make any difference

you install xposed framework as an apk, not a zip, install the apk like any other apk then install the framework from within the apk and reboot to activate
 
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dug13

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I think firewater will work with a custom kernel

as far as xposed it should work ok. I've been using it right along but I have an engineered bootloader.shouldn't make any difference

you install xposed framework as an apk, not a zip, install the apk like any other apk then install the framework from within the apk and reboot to activate

thanks for the replies. So if understand corectly with my stock rooted set up (see OP) there is no current way to gain S OFF?
 

StormyNight

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thanks for the replies. So if understand corectly with my stock rooted set up (see OP) there is no current way to gain S OFF?

@Aldo101t I think it'll work if you flash CM11.

EDIT: Not 100% sure though, but I'll read around and see what I can find. If I remember correctly, firewater uses a kernel exploit so it does depend on what ROM you use. Kangaroo Kernel for example, since it uses the newest stuff is not supported by firewater.

EDIT2: Got some proof to back my claim.
 
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Pew446

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@Aldo101t I think it'll work if you flash CM11.

EDIT: Not 100% sure though, but I'll read around and see what I can find. If I remember correctly, firewater uses a kernel exploit so it does depend on what ROM you use. Kangaroo Kernel for example, since it uses the newest stuff is not supported by firewater.

EDIT2: Got some proof to back my claim.

I did this using the latest CM11 build, and firewater said:

The first bottle is open
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 2
chugging..........

I let it sit there for 30 minutes, despite the 2 minute warning, and it didn't do anything. I have the exact same HBOOT as OP. Not sure what to do.
 

Pew446

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I did this using the latest CM11 build, and firewater said:



I let it sit there for 30 minutes, despite the 2 minute warning, and it didn't do anything. I have the exact same HBOOT as OP. Not sure what to do.

I finally got it, here is what I did and used in hopes it will help OP:

First, I was stuck at the white HTC Logo thing, and that was cause I was missing the radio somehow. I got the latest from here and flashed it in recovery.

Then I flashed this ROM.

Then I flashed this Kernel. <-- Important!

Then follow the firewater instructions, and it should work first time.

Let me know if you need help, OP, I might be able to help.
 

dug13

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Dec 12, 2009
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I finally got it, here is what I did and used in hopes it will help OP:

First, I was stuck at the white HTC Logo thing, and that was cause I was missing the radio somehow. I got the latest from here and flashed it in recovery.

Then I flashed this ROM.

Then I flashed this Kernel. <-- Important!

Then follow the firewater instructions, and it should work first time.

Let me know if you need help, OP, I might be able to help.

Thanks for confirming that you can get s off- But I do not want to put a custom rom or kernel on, hard to believe this is the only way to get S off with HB 1.57
Curious though- does firewater or any other methods allow you to turn it back to S on and remove the *TAMPERED* flag like revone does?
Also the kernel you posted says its for JB roms- I have KK.
 
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dug13

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What if?

Thanks for confirming that you can get s off- But I do not want to put a custom rom or kernel on, hard to believe this is the only way to get S off with HB 1.57
Curious though- does firewater or any other methods allow you to turn it back to S on and remove the *TAMPERED* flag like revone does?
Also the kernel you posted says its for JB roms- I have KK.

Would creating a twrp backup of my stock rom and kernel, then installing a custom kernel to use firewater for S OFF, Could I return to the stock kernel via TWRP and would the phone remain in S OFF?
 

Pew446

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Would creating a twrp backup of my stock rom and kernel, then installing a custom kernel to use firewater for S OFF, Could I return to the stock kernel via TWRP and would the phone remain in S OFF?

Yes :) Just be careful not to wipe your SD card (or copy it to your computer to be sure)
 

Doomers

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Finally something works!

I finally got it, here is what I did and used in hopes it will help OP:

First, I was stuck at the white HTC Logo thing, and that was cause I was missing the radio somehow. I got the latest from here and flashed it in recovery.

Then I flashed this ROM.

Then I flashed this Kernel. <-- Important!

Then follow the firewater instructions, and it should work first time.

Let me know if you need help, OP, I might be able to help.

Pew, I wish I had stumbled across your thread much earlier! I have been attempting to S-off my Sprint M7 for three days with no luck on a ridiculous number of combinations! Your method outlined above was the first one to work and it took no time at all! Thanks for being a lifesaver bud. :good::good:
 

Pew446

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Pew, I wish I had stumbled across your thread much earlier! I have been attempting to S-off my Sprint M7 for three days with no luck on a ridiculous number of combinations! Your method outlined above was the first one to work and it took no time at all! Thanks for being a lifesaver bud. :good::good:

No problem! I had just as much trouble as you did, nothing was working, but finally some combination did the trick. :) I hope this keeps helping people in the future.
 

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    thanks for the replies. So if understand corectly with my stock rooted set up (see OP) there is no current way to gain S OFF?

    @Aldo101t I think it'll work if you flash CM11.

    EDIT: Not 100% sure though, but I'll read around and see what I can find. If I remember correctly, firewater uses a kernel exploit so it does depend on what ROM you use. Kangaroo Kernel for example, since it uses the newest stuff is not supported by firewater.

    EDIT2: Got some proof to back my claim.