Official ICS & JELLY BEAN discussion/speculation thread

Joe T · May 24, 2012

PFC Hudson said:
Can you tell me a bit more please. How and what makes our Sammy tablet so much better on ICS?

I'm in two minds as to whether or not to wait for the official ICS or go for an already existing mod version

Give it a whirl if you're interested. Make a backup of your HC rom and if you don't like ICS, switch back.

I was hesitant at first but I'm glad I switched to AOKP. I use my tablet occasionally with a Keyboard and Mouse. On ICS, I can scroll through my home screens and app drawer with the mouse wheel. Might not be a big deal to a lot of people, but having that was useful to me.
I also love Google Chrome.

Overall, ICS seems more responsive and a smoother experience.

badogg · May 24, 2012

Joe T said:
Give it a whirl if you're interested. Make a backup of your HC rom and if you don't like ICS, switch back.

I was hesitant at first but I'm glad I switched to AOKP. I use my tablet occasionally with a Keyboard and Mouse. On ICS, I can scroll through my home screens and app drawer with the mouse wheel. Might not be a big deal to a lot of people, but having that was useful to me.
I also love Google Chrome.

Overall, ICS seems more responsive and a smoother experience.

I used to say that until I loaded up the Overcome Rom. Smoothest Rom I've run on my Tab and I've tried them all.

GorillaPimp · May 25, 2012

Step666 said:
I'm also personally inclined to look elsewhere for my next tablet - not because of the firmware (none of my Android devices stay stock for very long and you can pretty much always guarantee Samsung's flagship phones and tablets will get good Dev support) but rather the poor quality of the hardware.
My Tab has a massive Newton Rings smear across it and that's just not good enough IMO.

That said, I would never preclude Samsung from my considerations, merely that if all other factors were equal, I would err on the side of choosing the other brand.

First time hearing that. I'm really happy with the hardware but not so much with support. Had a really nasty experience with a new Samsung tv warranty episode. I just don't feel like Samsung gives a damn about customers outside of the returns window.
None of the newton fixes worked? If the warranty is valid just sell it to someone in the us.

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Step666 · May 25, 2012

GorillaPimp said:
None of the newton fixes worked?

The first time it occurred, it went away by itself a wee while later.
This time it's come back much worse very recently, so I haven't had a chance to try the fixes yet.

Not that it would make any difference - I shouldn't be having to stick my Tab in the fridge so that the hardware is ok.
Even if the fixes work, it doesn't change the fact that it's a significant disappointment on Samsung's part.

GorillaPimp said:
If the warranty is valid just sell it to someone in the us.

I don't have a receipt for it or anything, so that's not an option.

xTONEx · May 25, 2012

Step666 said:
The first time it occurred, it went away by itself a wee while later.
This time it's come back much worse very recently, so I haven't had a chance to try the fixes yet.

Not that it would make any difference - I shouldn't be having to stick my Tab in the fridge so that the hardware is ok.
Even if the fixes work, it doesn't change the fact that it's a significant disappointment on Samsung's part.

I don't have a receipt for it or anything, so that's not an option

Since when is a receipt needed for a warranty thru the company...

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Joe T · May 25, 2012

Step666 said:
I don't have a receipt for it or anything, so that's not an option.

If I'm not mistaken, it comes with a 1 year warranty and since the release date was June 2011 you obviously haven't had it a year. If it were mine I'd definitely look into it... Good luck!

Ken4G · May 25, 2012

Send it for repair! It is a known issue and they will take the tab in and replace the screen no questions asked. Just make sure to mention "newton rings".

I called back in February, they sent me a prepaid shipping label, I sent it in and 2 weeks later, I had a brand new screen. All free.

GorillaPimp · May 25, 2012

Step666 said:
The first time it occurred, it went away by itself a wee while later.
This time it's come back much worse very recently, so I haven't had a chance to try the fixes yet.

Not that it would make any difference - I shouldn't be having to stick my Tab in the fridge so that the hardware is ok.
Even if the fixes work, it doesn't change the fact that it's a significant disappointment on Samsung's part.

I don't have a receipt for it or anything, so that's not an option.

I agree and would be pretty disappointed if I had that issue. Like others have said, they shouldn't ask for a receipt but you are overseas so that could be an issue. I'd just call them up and say I bought it while in the US on vacation and see if they will fix it. If not, someone in the US will be willing to buy it and have it serviced/fix it themselves.

Imagine how pissed you'd be if you paid 5 or 6 hundred for it.

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Ken4G said:
Send it for repair! It is a known issue and they will take the tab in and replace the screen no questions asked. Just make sure to mention "newton rings".

I called back in February, they sent me a prepaid shipping label, I sent it in and 2 weeks later, I had a brand new screen. All free.

He has a US version and he's in Europe. They still may repair it in the US or Europe. I'm sure someone else has tried that on here.

Step666 · May 25, 2012

Thank you all for the advice, I shall take it under advisement.

Having read the warranty booklet, it only covers the original purchaser, it only applies in the US and it stipulates that a receipt/proof of purchase must be included when sending the tablet to Samsung for a warranty repair.

I'm genuinely not bothered either way - I'll be replacing the Tab as soon as I find something that ticks enough boxes on my wish-list.

kevinmayer86 · May 26, 2012

Step666 said:
Thank you all for the advice, I shall take it under advisement.

Having read the warranty booklet, it only covers the original purchaser, it only applies in the US and it stipulates that a receipt/proof of purchase must be included when sending the tablet to Samsung for a warranty repair.

I'm genuinely not bothered either way - I'll be replacing the Tab as soon as I find something that ticks enough boxes on my wish-list.

They may say that you need to include that and that it only applies to the original owner, but I don't think they're very strict in enforcing that. I bought my tablet from someone July last year and I have no receipt and neither am I the original owner but I sent my tab in for repairs back in March and they didn't give me any problems. They sent me a shipping label and that was it.
I would suggest giving them a call, it doesn't hurt in trying.

Timelessblur · May 26, 2012

shadowxxx said:
Sorry but my next tablet will not be Samsung ... I think a lack of gratitude that after doing an aggressive marketing promotion of a product, after sales of very large to neglect updates in favor of other new models appeared. OK and they should be sold, but not in this style!

Same here. Asus made it a lot hire on my list because OMG they update their stuff in more timely manner.

Samsung promised ICS 1Q for Galaxy 10.1. Now we 1/2 way threw 2Q and still no real word on it.
Samsung does not have the carrier excuse on this one. It show volumes that they really do not care. It is quick way to turn me COMPLETELY off against any samsung because they are badly failing to deliver on basic promises.

Step666 · May 26, 2012

kevinmayer86 said:
I would suggest giving them a call, it doesn't hurt in trying.

I know, which is why I'm still thinking it over.

Problem is, my Tab is all that's keep me sane at work just now, so I wouldn't want to be without it for an extended period of time.
I'm going to try the fixes next time I have a couple of days off and take it from there.

sterz85 · May 27, 2012

since the galaxy tab 2 is out already, y can't we just port that rom over and flash it instead? yes a root will be needed but I ran CM9 for a while and actually liked the android 3.2 more (CM9 crashed way too much and i missed some of the samsung apps)

Just_Another_N00b · May 27, 2012

sterz85 said:
since the galaxy tab 2 is out already, y can't we just port that rom over and flash it instead? yes a root will be needed but I ran CM9 for a while and actually liked the android 3.2 more (CM9 crashed way too much and i missed some of the samsung apps)

Tab 2 is not identical in hardware to Tab. Porting of that ROM will not work too well. Alas...

dummy1001 · May 27, 2012

badogg said:
I used to say that until I loaded up the Overcome Rom. Smoothest Rom I've run on my Tab and I've tried them all.

Basically I fully agree. Without custom rom I would sell my Tab. HC is simply not acceptable.

I would say AOKP is as good as overcome. I am running my tab now on AOKP on milestone 5 P37 and this release is far better (smoother) than milestone 4 P31 (the first AOKP I tried).

With other word: it is usable now.

shame on Samsung for their update policy.

Regards,
Frank

spritable · May 27, 2012

I've tried not to be frustated with the delays we are facing, but after soo much mornths pased, eventually I got frustrated.

When google releases a new version, the manufacturer needs between 2 and 6 months to apply the update to their devices, if those devices meets the requirements for this version. Then if you bought your devices from a carrier, there is a chance that you will need to wait another 2 months for the update to reach your device. This happened to me. My carrier needed additional 2 months, because they have a custom app store and another crappy app. I assume that they needed those 2 months to update those two to the new version. Funny, ha?

Don't get me wrong, I love my adroid phone and android tablet, but compared to the way new versions are released to apples products, android is loosing big time.

For apple, we do not have the delay because of the customization of the manufacturers. Appart from that carriers customizations are apps that are updated in the app store and do not delay of the new OS version release.

jeepnutz · May 27, 2012

Forgive the "newbie" comment but isn't this thread for updates about the "ICS Release" hence the Title, "ICS Release Information ". Perhaps there needs to be separate thread for the, I'm whinning about the lack of an ICS update. Just saying?

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ROB281 · May 27, 2012

jeepnutz said:
Forgive the "newbie" comment but isn't this thread for updates about the "ICS Release" hence the Title, "ICS Release Information ". Perhaps there needs to be separate thread for the, I'm whinning about the lack of an ICS update. Just saying?

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Troll harder next time

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Jay Aristide · May 27, 2012

jeepnutz said:
Forgive the "newbie" comment but isn't this thread for updates about the "ICS Release" hence the Title, "ICS Release Information ". Perhaps there needs to be separate thread for the, I'm whinning about the lack of an ICS update. Just saying?

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EVERY LAST WORD OF THIS^^^

What I **REALLY** don't like is that the people here can cry a river against samsung, but as soon as someone steps up for samsung and defends them, the post is deleted without comment or explanation. It's all coming back to me now why I LEFT xda in the first place. Completely forgot the crybabies had won.

Timelessblur · May 27, 2012

Jay Aristide said:
EVERY LAST WORD OF THIS^^^

What I **REALLY** don't like is that the people here can cry a river against samsung, but as soon as someone steps up for samsung and defends them, the post is deleted without comment or explanation. It's all coming back to me now why I LEFT xda in the first place. Completely forgot the crybabies had won.

Well I ask. what is the defense for Samsung here? The first promised a 1Q update for a list of device none of which got it. Then then the 10.1 had gotten nothing not

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