[HOW-TO] Change your Boot Splash + ZIPs + Online Generator + Warning Gone + Ville/C2

touch of jobo · Mar 15, 2013

Are you sure the device was S-Off? On hboot-1.06 and S-On you can technically write to p12 but it bricks. That's what donverse did. (He also had 2 devices; one was s-on.) If you're sure you were S-Off, then I don't know what's happened and whether I should remove those zips I posted.

This is the first instance of a brick from flashing these hboots on an S-Off device. They have been downloaded almost 800x, so probably flashed well over 100x.

If you're in qhsusb mode, you can look into the downgrade process to push a clean hboot-1.06 into p12.

LibertyMonger · Mar 15, 2013

There is no charging light or reset lights but when I hold power while plugged into USB the PC makes the usb connect and disconnect sounds, but no screen on or power. I wonder if I did some steps in the downgrade thread if I can magically revive it? Has to be some way it seems. Oh well guess I have to call insurance?

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touch of jobo said:
Are you sure the device was S-Off? On hboot-1.06 and S-On you can technically write to p12 but it bricks. That's what donverse did. If you're sure you were S-Off, then I don't know what's happened and whether I should remove those zips I posted.

This is the first instance of a brick from flashing these hboots on an S-Off device. They have been downloaded almost 800x, so probably flashed well over 100x.

If you're in qhsusb mode, you can look into the downgrade process to push a clean hboot-1.06 into p12.

Thanks man, Yeah it was S-Off. Can you give me a starting point in the downgrade process?

Darknites · Mar 15, 2013

touch of jobo said:
Are you sure the device was S-Off? On hboot-1.06 and S-On you can technically write to p12 but it bricks. That's what donverse did. If you're sure you were S-Off, then I don't know what's happened and whether I should remove those zips I posted.

This is the first instance of a brick from flashing these hboots on an S-Off device. They have been downloaded almost 800x, so probably flashed well over 100x.

If you're in qhsusb mode, you can look into the downgrade process to push a clean hboot-1.06 into p12.

I just think its the same issue that happened with the JB OTA update when you had SuperCID. Just put a big warning saying this may brick it and S-Off has had its own issues too.

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LibertyMonger said:
I got insurance on it through my carrier, but will unlocking it at HTC effect my insurance? I hope not. Man this is an awful feeling lol. Got greedy!

Just tell them it it ran of battery and won't turn back on.

touch of jobo · Mar 15, 2013

LibertyMonger said:
Yeah it was S-Off.

Damn!
Did you by any chance use the broken version of TWRP? (I think is it 2.4.3 that has issues.)

LibertyMonger said:
Can you give me a starting point in the downgrade process?

This is the thread: [TUT] Downgrade/Unbrick Ville S4
If that doesnt work out, there is always this thread.

Darknites said:
I just think its the same issue that happened with the JB OTA update when you had SuperCID. Just put a big warning saying this may brick it and S-Off has had its own issues too.

I have flashed all of them successfully with superCID. Some even multiple times when I was testing the unmodified ones I posted up later. But yeah, I will add an extra warning that we now have a brick on S-Off.

Darknites · Mar 15, 2013

touch of jobo said:
Damn!
Did you by any chance use the broken version of TWRP? (I think is it 2.4.3 that has issues.)

This is the thread: [TUT] Downgrade/Unbrick Ville S4
If that doesnt work out, there is always this thread.

I have flashed all of them successfully with superCID. Some even multiple times when I was testing the unmodified ones I posted up later. But yeah, I will add an extra warning that we now have a brick on S-Off.

Ya it didn't brick everyone but there was a fair few bricks with the OTA and even a few with the downgrade.

Sneakyghost · Mar 15, 2013

AW: [HOW-TO] Change your Boot Splash + Flashable ZIPs + Online Generator + Warning Go

I was very sure that there will be bricks from this, I even expected it to happen to me. Writing to p12 is always dangerous. One little anomaly in the process is enough to make the device unbootable just due to the nature of that partition. If you have faults while flashing a ROM, you just repeat the process. If you have that with the boatloader, the natural consequence is that it won't boot. Simple.
A big fat warning is a must for this. People need to know that they risk a brick when messing with p12, in fact, p14, the splash, can also brick the device I think.

Sent from Viper 2.2

LibertyMonger · Mar 15, 2013

touch of jobo said:
Damn!
Did you by any chance use the broken version of TWRP? (I think is it 2.4.3 that has issues.)

This is the thread: [TUT] Downgrade/Unbrick Ville S4
If that doesnt work out, there is always this thread.

I have flashed all of them successfully with superCID. Some even multiple times when I was testing the unmodified ones I posted up later. But yeah, I will add an extra warning that we now have a brick on S-Off.

I was on TWRP 2.3.3 or whatever it is. I tried the downgrade process from the point where the light is out and Ubuntu isn't detecting USB. So I don't know. I knew the risks so don't feel bad just in case you do lol. No hard feelings, I am just greedy. I should be able to claim it on insurance, in the meantime I will have to give her my One S. But I would still like to work my way out of this if possible.

Darknites · Mar 15, 2013

LibertyMonger said:
I was on TWRP 2.3.3 or whatever it is. I tried the downgrade process from the point where the light is out and Ubuntu isn't detecting USB. So I don't know. I knew the risks so don't feel bad just in case you do lol. No hard feelings, I am just greedy. I should be able to claim it on insurance, in the meantime I will have to give her my One S. But I would still like to work my way out of this if possible.

You can't and doing anything just makes it worse so I would just send it off.

LibertyMonger · Mar 15, 2013

Darknites said:
You can't and doing anything just makes it worse so I would just send it off.

Yeah Thanks bro. I shouldn't have any issues with insurance. And luckily I have my GNex or I would have never tried it. It worked for my HTC and it was on TWRP 2.4.2 so I don't know what happened. Thanks guys.

Darknites · Mar 15, 2013

LibertyMonger said:
Yeah Thanks bro. I shouldn't have any issues with insurance. And luckily I have my GNex or I would have never tried it. It worked for my HTC and it was on TWRP 2.4.2 so I don't know what happened. Thanks guys.

I just think one of then random things that like to happen to this phone.

LibertyMonger · Mar 15, 2013

Darknites said:
I just think one of then random things that like to happen to this phone.

I get my niece on the weekends and I have limited time to update her device. Working with my phone is easy and less stressful so when I update hers the same as mine I rush into it knowing how easy it is and how I have done it a thousand times before but since I am under a time restraint and worried about getting it done right, I get these weird screwed up issues and it turns into a mess. What usually would take me minutes to do with my phone ends up taking hours to do with hers Lmao. So I don't know what went wrong, it's just one of those deals where I should have left well enough alone.

LibertyMonger · Mar 15, 2013

I claimed it on insurance and they said as long as it doesn't show any physical damage there will be no charge. Next day would have been $35, 2nd day would have been $15 and 2nd business day shipping is free :victory:

Sorry if I made a mess of your thread man, I hope it was my mistake and no one else experiences it.

touch of jobo · Mar 15, 2013

LibertyMonger said:
I knew the risks so don't feel bad just in case you do lol. No hard feelings, I am just greedy.

Of course I feel bad .. well, not happy anyway. It's a nasty thing to happen to anyone. In fact I've been pretty reckless with mine just to prevent this from happening to others.

LibertyMonger said:
I hope it was my mistake and no one else experiences it.

It would be nice to know that for sure. But since there is no way anymore to find out, we have to assume that there are (unknown) factors that cause brickage on s-off.

..and on a somewhat related note:

Sneakyghost · Mar 15, 2013

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There's been a very important question a few posts back and no-one stumbled over it.
Which recovery? As you know the later TWRP doesn't flash things right.

I'd put up a big warning regarding TWRP as we don't know for sure that it's NOT been the recovery causing it. There's a srtring likelihood that it's caused by that.
Please inform people about the additional risk right where the downloads are.

If you don't, then you will have reason to feel bad

Sent from Viper 2.2

touch of jobo · Mar 15, 2013

Sneakyghost said:
There's been a very important question a few posts back and no-one stumbled over it.
Which recovery? As you know the later TWRP doesn't flash things right.

I'd put up a big warning regarding TWRP as we don't know for sure that it's NOT been the recovery causing it. There's a srtring likelihood that it's caused by that.
Please inform people about the additional risk right where the downloads are.

If you don't, then you will have reason to feel bad

Already put some more red bold warnings in that post.

Do you know the exact (range of) version(s) of TWRP that are bad?
I think 2.4.3 has issues, I'm not sure about 2.3.x, and AFAIK 2.2.x is good. And all CWMs are good.

Sneakyghost · Mar 15, 2013

! BRICK VERIFIED AND RECREATED !

BIG FAT BOLD RED WARINING:

TWRP 2.4.3.0 WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE WHEN FLASHING MODIFIED (AND POSSIBLY ORIGINAL) HBOOTS!

Additional VERY IMPORTANT notice from Tecardo:

Recoveries are generally not fit to securely flash a hboot! There is a technical reason for this! The risk of a brick through flashing hboots by means of a recovery is extraordinarily high!

Touch of Jobo, i recommend you pull all recovery zips ASAP and offer only the raw images with a guide on how to flash them, for reasons of user protection!

@Liberty-Monger:
It wasn't entirely your fault. It was a bad thing to happen but you helped finding out and thus helped the community big time to not run into the same issue. Thanks for being the involuntary Guinea Pig!

Tecardo · Mar 15, 2013

The splash screen flash should be ok

LibertyMonger · Mar 16, 2013

There's only two things I can think of that was different between the two phones, 1 was TWRP version, hers was 2.3.3 and mine is 2.4.2, it worked with mine and not hers, and I don't think I ever changed her bootsplash image, I think it was still the stock one. Sorry I can't provide any more details.

Sneakyghost · Mar 16, 2013

LibertyMonger said:
There's only two things I can think of that was different between the two phones, 1 was TWRP version, hers was 2.3.3 and mine is 2.4.2, it worked with mine and not hers, and I don't think I ever changed her bootsplash image, I think it was still the stock one. Sorry I can't provide any more details.

Sure it wasn't 2.4.3.0 ? ?

Then that just underlines the necessity to refrain from using ANY recovery to flash hboots.
Tec tried to explain it to me but i didn't quite understand or else i would have explained it here on thread but flashing hboots from within recovery is dangerous.

LibertyMonger · Mar 16, 2013

touch of jobo said:
Of course I feel bad .. well, not happy anyway. It's a nasty thing to happen to anyone. In fact I've been pretty reckless with mine just to prevent this from happening to others. It would be nice to know that for sure. But since there is no way anymore to find out, we have to assume that there are (unknown) factors that cause brickage on s-off.

..and on a somewhat related note:

WOW sweet dude! Thanks for the pic!! I will most definitely be using that when I get my new replacement and trying this again lol. I'm not scared! Lmao!

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