Originally Posted by F033x

i used a paper clip after unsuccessful tries with bag ties, cat-5 wires, and regular insulated wire.

Lol... I will wait.

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Originally Posted by alx294

but other benefits to s-off include:
higher probability of getting out of a brick

Actually I think there is greater likelihood of bricking your phone when you have s-off. S-on is pretty tough to brick. S-off leaves your phone more vulnerable to corrupted flashes, particularly when flashing radios.

No question you have (or will have) more options to flash with s-off but right now with EXT4 recovery there's no real point to s-off. Personally, I'm going to wait.

Originally Posted by glacierguy

Lol... I will wait.

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lol why? It worked like a charm. Besides I've never used my insurance (in like all 4 years with tmo)

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Originally Posted by marleyfan61

Actually I think there is greater likelihood of bricking your phone when you have s-off. S-on is pretty tough to brick. S-off leaves your phone more vulnerable to corrupted flashes, particularly when flashing radios.

No question you have (or will have) more options to flash with s-off but right now with EXT4 recovery there's no real point to s-off. Personally, I'm going to wait.

i only meant you could flash an eng s-off hboot, just wanted to put it in a way that made more sense

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I personally like the freedom you get from having S-off. but if you dont feel good about doing it, you can wait for an easier S-off solution. This is ICS for Tmo, so you only need S-off if you are on a different carrier. cuz you gonna have to Super Cid