T-Mobile Blocking Wi-Fi Tether

Lord_Kaizer · Sep 12, 2012

I red somewhere on this forum that they know if you are using free tethering by the type of browser you used on your laptop when its tether to your phone.

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Orical · Sep 13, 2012

Lord_Kaizer said:
I red somewhere on this forum that they know if you are using free tethering by the type of browser you used on your laptop when its tether to your phone.

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Most mobile browsers can use standard view but if that's the case it wouldn't be hard to tell on their end. I would assume they can tell by the secondary mac from the same port but vpn can help with that.

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jjlean · Sep 13, 2012

Such confusion. I haven't tried it yet on the new data plan, but I will try it. Anyone know the client changer add on for Mozilla?

The Archangel · Sep 13, 2012

Those fools popped me also, now I'm pissed.

md1008 · Sep 13, 2012

What about pdanet through blutooth or usb tether?

I was tricked into buying the galaxy s 3 because I thought it was an iPhone

psykhotic · Sep 13, 2012

Can they cancel your service since you are breaching the TOS by tethering?

bipoler · Sep 13, 2012

Instead of frivolous lawsuits the FTC needs to disfavor these charges it's the same network same data its our desecration how we use it we pay for it. Just a scam I say we boycott there bull

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psykhotic · Sep 13, 2012

bipoler said:
Instead of frivolous lawsuits the FTC needs to disfavor these charges it's the same network same data its our desecration how we use it we pay for it. Just a scam I say we boycott there bull

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Do you mean FCC?

I'm really on the fence about this. You're paying for mobile data on a cellular network so tethering and using it at home as your main connection doesn't seem right. I'm talking about the people who use 50-100GB, how much content can you consume JUST using your phone?. It also can hurt the cable companies by replacing them. The two services ARE different, or at least supposed to be.

I think that if people want unlimited AND tethering the should just pay the difference. I think hotspot is $10 a month? Compared to the other carriers you're still getting an amazing deal on tmo. And I want the FCC to stay out of it because if they get involved tmos prices will undoubtably be raised.

To me it's silly to say the FCC should get involved or that tmo is in the wrong when you aren't following the TOS you agreed to. Sure, I want more for less money too but that's not always how it works.

Just a quick note, why aren't people screaming about both cell lines being charged minutes when on a landline only one person pays for the call??

Orical · Sep 13, 2012

psykhotic said:
Do you mean FCC?

I'm really on the fence about this. You're paying for mobile data on a cellular network so tethering and using it at home as your main connection doesn't seem right. I'm talking about the people who use 50-100GB, how much content can you consume JUST using your phone?. It also can hurt the cable companies by replacing them. The two services ARE different, or at least supposed to be.

I think that if people want unlimited AND tethering the should just pay the difference. I think hotspot is $10 a month? Compared to the other carriers you're still getting an amazing deal on tmo. And I want the FCC to stay out of it because if they get involved tmos prices will undoubtably be raised.

To me it's silly to say the FCC should get involved or that tmo is in the wrong when you aren't following the TOS you agreed to. Sure, I want more for less money too but that's not always how it works.

Just a quick note, why aren't people screaming about both cell lines being charged minutes when on a landline only one person pays for the call??

I think he was saying the federal trade commission but you have a good point.

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hucesar1017 · Sep 13, 2012

Yeah so its a fact Tmobile purposely blocks tethering and with the new truly unlimited data they are working hard to block the tethering "as it can cause other customers issues if the data gets out of hand".

eugenile · Sep 13, 2012

It sucks but if its clear in the tos then what can you do. You should see those tzones thread. I dont think its capped yet. 5.99 data you just have few choices in phones. Now those guys abuse data

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CEB1970 · Sep 13, 2012

The only way to really and truly hide your tether from your service provider is to use an encrypted VPN, as someone said. That way all your IP packets are routed through another site via encryption and the service provider can never see them.

Otherwise they can easily inspect the packets and tell that a tethered device is using the connection.

They typically will not detect tethering by simply looking at how the web browser identifies itself. That is too simplistic and easily spoofed anyway.

Obviously the phone can simply just inform them that you are tethering, if you use the default app instead of rooting and using a third party tethering app. So you can at least make them work a little bit by doing that.

But they can certainly detect the use of third party tethering apps if they really want to, unless you use VPN first. And I bet they'd limit VPN usage too if they see people using a lot of bandwidth for VPN.

Personally I'm sticking with my classic 5GB plan to keep my life simple.

bipoler · Sep 13, 2012

psykhotic said:
Do you mean FCC?

I'm really on the fence about this. You're paying for mobile data on a cellular network so tethering and using it at home as your main connection doesn't seem right. I'm talking about the people who use 50-100GB, how much content can you consume JUST using your phone?. It also can hurt the cable companies by replacing them. The two services ARE different, or at least supposed to be.

I think that if people want unlimited AND tethering the should just pay the difference. I think hotspot is $10 a month? Compared to the other carriers you're still getting an amazing deal on tmo. And I want the FCC to stay out of it because if they get involved tmos prices will undoubtably be raised.

To me it's silly to say the FCC should get involved or that tmo is in the wrong when you aren't following the TOS you agreed to. Sure, I want more for less money too but that's not always how it works.

Just a quick note, why aren't people screaming about both cell lines being charged minutes when on a landline only one person pays for the call??

Blame auto predict.....and no I'm taking about the data allotment we pay for you know 2gb 5gb let me use it how I want...no one has yet to explain the reason behind the added cost other than greed. And wow I barely get close to 5gb but damn those abusing the network should be kicked off simple...or charge them once they surpass there given threshold and if you have "unlimited" you should have to pay a fee if you tether pass a certain point

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Orical said:
I think he was saying the federal trade commission but you have a good point.

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....she

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people can sound so undignified on the simplest things. It's simple it's double jeopardy to pay for data allotment and not be able to use all the features of your device. Not referring to "unlimited" people.....Hey I'll sell you a car with 1000.miles a month for one flat rate...BUT if you have passengers you must pay a fee.....isn't seating a feature of your vehicle?????

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Orical · Sep 13, 2012

bipoler said:
Blame auto predict.....and no I'm taking about the data allotment we pay for you know 2gb 5gb let me use it how I want...no one has yet to explain the reason behind the added cost other than greed. And wow I barely get close to 5gb but damn those abusing the network should be kicked off simple...or charge them once they surpass there given threshold and if you have "unlimited" you should have to pay a fee if you tether pass a certain point

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---------- Post added at 01:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:59 PM ----------

....she

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---------- Post added at 01:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:01 PM ----------

people can sound so undignified on the simplest things. It's simple it's double jeopardy to pay for data allotment and not be able to use all the features of your device. Not referring to "unlimited" people.....Hey I'll sell you a car with 1000.miles a month for one flat rate...BUT if you have passengers you must pay a fee.....isn't seating a feature of your vehicle?????

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My bad, the name bipolar doesn't really scream gender type but I'll apologize anyways. Everyone has a valid complaint with the plan restrictions again with the limited unlimited but that's T-Mobile and their way of saying your gonna pay for what you want one way or another.

Im just glad I'm not a Verizon customer, I'd be broke in my first 3 months.

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agtitan · Sep 13, 2012

CEB1970 said:
The only way to really and truly hide your tether from your service provider is to use an encrypted VPN, as someone said. That way all your IP packets are routed through another site via encryption and the service provider can never see them.

Otherwise they can easily inspect the packets and tell that a tethered device is using the connection.

They typically will not detect tethering by simply looking at how the web browser identifies itself. That is too simplistic and easily spoofed anyway.

Obviously the phone can simply just inform them that you are tethering, if you use the default app instead of rooting and using a third party tethering app. So you can at least make them work a little bit by doing that.

But they can certainly detect the use of third party tethering apps if they really want to, unless you use VPN first. And I bet they'd limit VPN usage too if they see people using a lot of bandwidth for VPN.

Personally I'm sticking with my classic 5GB plan to keep my life simple.

How do you set up encrypted VPN ?

jjlean · Sep 13, 2012

agtitan said:
How do you set up encrypted VPN ?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+set+up+an+encrypted+vpn

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Orical · Sep 13, 2012

jjlean said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+set+up+an+encrypted+vpn

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That's a good one. I looked a lot of places before I found that one. Google is the best .....

strongvpn.com/setup_android_2_pptp.shtml

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G1_enthusiast · Sep 13, 2012

redhooka said:
Browser detection on their end. If you're going to tether it's best to do it through a VPN, that way they cannot even look at your traffic.

how do you do this...wanna do a guide? always interested doing virtual private network.

jjlean · Sep 13, 2012

Orical said:
That's a good one. I looked a lot of places before I found that one. Google is the best .....

strongvpn.com/setup_android_2_pptp.shtml

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Someone said u can get a client changer add on for firefix that will work. I looked and I'm not sure which one.

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psykhotic · Sep 13, 2012

hucesar1017 said:
Yeah so its a fact Tmobile purposely blocks tethering and with the new truly unlimited data they are working hard to block the tethering "as it can cause other customers issues if the data gets out of hand".

They're blocking tethering because you're supposed to pay $9.99 a month for it but people are finding ways around it. Even at $30 a month, unlimited data WITH tethering is really cheap! Like I mentioned earlier if you use that as a primary connection at home, tmo is putting serious competition on land line cable. I think my Comcast "unlimited" 250GB a month cable is $60 and I only get 19mbps. Although my market is one that lifted the cap for research.

I just feel like if people want to go nuts and tether a TB a month they should just pay the $10. (All prices are value plan)

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