they said the same thing for the One X and look what happened....bah i dont know...wait a few months the price will be down anyway...so wait for development to pick up and see what the S4 has to offer and take it from there
Do you guys think it's worth buying the HTC One?
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they said the same thing for the One X and look what happened....bah i dont know...wait a few months the price will be down anyway...so wait for development to pick up and see what the S4 has to offer and take it from there
Yeah indeed but isn't it more fascinating to see people migrate to different forums(Xperia Z & HTC One) just to boast and defend their unannounced/yet to be launched SGS4? Official specs wasn't even released yet but people now keep telling us SGS4 will be far more superior than the One.
This octa core really intrigues me all the time. It is said that it has 4 A15 and 4 A7 processors swapping each other depending on the load right? And the main reason why there's A7 processor there is to save power? And A15 processors are power hungry processors so they are paired with these A7 ones right?
Ok my question is... What if we like do some continous videoplayback/play games nonstop/use our phones to call/music playback on SGS4? Won't it use the A15 cores non stop? So by doing these won't the A7 core be pretty much useless instead since probably it will be only utilized on standby mode and simple touchwiz interaction? Won't this drain battery so much since the whole point of battery saving of the octacore won't be utilized?
If this is the case then this octacore thing is just pure BS. A7 cores(the power saver cores) on this just end up being used on low load processing which is rarely happening on smartphones.
You put the display on the A15 kicks in, you open apps and games then 80% of the time A15 kicks in. Now tell me guys how does this save power? I would prolly say you'll save power if only you put your phone as a shiny brick on your table.
see the problem is why would i want to go and spend £500 on a phone ( i mean a freaking phone) when i can go on a holiday with that money and probably get laid as well..plus knowing HTC it will probably be a flagship for a year and then another phone comes out worth the same money..nope i rather keep my money thanks..and the same goes for Sammy or any other phone....Now tablet that is a different matter that is worth spending the five hundred though
I know what you mean I Rather spend my cash on my loved ones. Will probably get One but on upgrade this month, if it's worth it. S4 don't have any high expections because if it's plastic then it's crap regardless what is inside it.
Boy's at Sammy better learn from HTC, how to make a device look good, give it a quality finish. People will eventually get fed up of paying top dollor for plastic. Apple have realised bit late, their loyal customers have had enough of their same old phone just diferent packaging. It's going to take some real innovation by Apple to win back their customers.
So sammy learn from apples mistakes and start using less plastic, spend more on build quality you cheap skates
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Here's what they said in 2012...
The One series and the new version of Sense are, together, HTC's attempt to get back on course. It has pared down the number of products it will be pushing in 2012, simplifying its product line along with much of the rest of the industry. Cutting the product line down to just a few phones is a bold move when many other manufacturers are churning out new products as quickly as there are new specs to support them, but it's probably the right one for a company that's both smaller than its competitors and at a disadvantage when it comes to securing massive numbers of components.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/6/2849231/htc-sense-4-one-x-drew-bamford/in/2590365
Here's what CNet Asia said about the One's "flagship" status...
Not helping HTC's cause is the frequency HTC introduces "flagship" devices. Starting from the Sensation series in mid-late 2011, the company has introduced the One series (One X/One S/One V) in mid 2012 and the HTC Butterfly in Q4 2012. With the introduction of HTC One now, it seems the top-end HTC device will not carry the flagship status for more than two quarters. Contrast that with the life cycle of similar flagship devices from Samsung and Apple--Galaxy S3 and iPhone 5 users would probably enjoy carrying the latest and greatest from their chosen brand for three quarters to a year before thinking about upgrading.
http://asia.cnet.com/how-long-will-the-htc-one-remain-a-flagship-62220612.htm
The One X, especially the XL, didn't sell so the One X+ was announced six months later. And then two months after that the DNA/Butterfly. They'll do what they need to do to sell phones and if that means a One+ six months from now then there will be a One+. And do you honestly think they'd say "we're looking at additional flagship devices for later in the year" at the launch of their current one? I'm in marketing. Don't always believe what you hear as what was said yesterday can easily be spun in to something else based on "responding to our customer's needs." If you like the One, buy it. But HTC's longevity record is spotty no matter what current press comments may indicate to the contrary. Ask a DNA/Butterfly owner.
I Dont think a exynos 5 Will be more powerful than snapdragon 600,maybe can be 10% But there a touchwiz, much much blootware is include.
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bah never in a million years...sense has and will always be more bloated than TW...Sense is ten times better in looks and functionality but do not disregard how lite and good features TW also has though
I get the crowd I'm about to post this to, but has anyone thought of how amazing through processors of the current gen phones are? If performance is you issue anything from the exynos quad in the sgs3 and even the duel core s4 snapdragon should be plenty of power. The octa will be fun to talk about and will probably be quite powerful, by the way any time the phone idles is when you would save power there, as well as for simple things like texting or listening to music. The 600 and 800 will both be very powerful and will benchmark with incredible numbers. In reality how big a difference will be noticed will be left to the types of animations chosen. I think we are at the point where the power of the processor is well outpacing what can be developed for mobile. That is just my opinion. Btw I do expect devices with the snapdragon to benchmark higher as qualcom seems to have done something with the krait cores that benchmarks like. My evo lte outscored my note 2 in quadrant.
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The concept is to have two fully capable SoC's available that can run either independently or together. Based on workload, instructions are directed to or moved so they are executed on the most appropriate of the two SoCs. High demand gaming would theoretically light up all four A15 cores. Internet browsing and light app use could use from 1 to all 4 of the A7 cores to save energy. If a browsing session was using 2 A7 cores and you suddenly fired up a 1080P flash video the theory is that, because the A7 and A15 cores are identically architected, the workload would be passed from A7 to A15 in micro-seconds. Here's a chart showing the projected battery saving.
When I bought my present phone, Atrix 4G, it was ahead of the pack just like the One is, so it seems the right phone at the right time. I am getting it for the hardware not the software. HTC says it will be their only flagship this year so it will probably get the next version of Android. Like the Nexus 7 the HTC will be good for a couple of years. Fast processor, metal housing, 1080p screen, stereo front speakers, 64 gb of storage, all make this an exceptional device. Hardware issues? Possibly but HTC has everything riding on this so they should do it right. Let's not forget DLNA and IR remote. Too bad there is no FM radio tuner. Anyway it seems like I will be very happy with the One and cannot lose with my choice. I can't wait to port over my setup.... It will fly
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Considering the 2 gigs of available ram
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The concept is to have two fully capable SoC's available that can run either independently or together. Based on workload, instructions are directed to or moved so they are executed on the most appropriate of the two SoCs. High demand gaming would theoretically light up all four A15 cores. Internet browsing and light app use could use from 1 to all 4 of the A7 cores to save energy. If a browsing session was using 2 A7 cores and you suddenly fired up a 1080P flash video the theory is that, because the A7 and A15 cores are identically architected, the workload would be passed from A7 to A15 in micro-seconds. Here's a chart showing the projected battery saving.
the algorithm is still doubtful for me for android. I do have an SGS3 on my cousin and I sometimes borrow it on him. Looking at the cpu monitoring exynos quad tends to peak all 4cores at max frequency on even just loading web pages. So I guess we all should have to wait for the actual tests to see how the threshold handles things out. And also constant scaling of frequencies within the same core already eats alot of battery I can't imagine how it would eat power by scaling between different cores.
If a 4+4 processor was the best solution for energy saving I'm sure intel could have already implemented this technology on the past.
Those charts are base of direct processor tests that is not real life tests with android OS where java is in the game and it's a VM.
Also by considering what you said I guess octa core isn't really for me as almost half of my phone's lifetime I just do video streaming and doing local videoplayback on it. Others are just web browsing and texting/calling.
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But, when they said the same exact thing this year, they promise they mean it this time.
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This isn't Exynos Quad and it isn't like any other design currently on the market so comparisons are useless. Krait 300/400 are both evolutions of existing ARM design that Qualcomm's licensed and then tweaked. Everyone keeps talking about the "S-800." The majority of performance/efficiency improvement between Krait 300/400 (S-600/800) has nothing to do with design and everything to do with using a 28nm HK-MG (High-K + Metal Gate) die which is also being used by Octa.
The development of big.LITTLE has nothing to do with Samsung/Exynos. It's a revolutionary new approach to combining power and efficiency that's 100% designed, tested, and implemented by ARM (the same company whose designs Krait are based on) and has been in R&D for over two years. Samsung's nothing more than a licensee. I guess Samsung could screw up the implementation of big.LITTLE but their working with ARM directly on Octa so that seems unlikely. Delays trying to balance heat, battery life, and performance are probably likely. If the SGS4 isn't using Octa we'll know something's up in its development or tuning.
The biggest difference between ARM's current designs and big.LITTLE is the move away from asynchronous core management to synchronous.
This explains it.
"Asynchronous clock architecture is a design for multi-core processors, in which, each core is operated at different voltage levels and clock frequencies. As stated earlier, such a design schedules computationally intensive tasks for the faster core, while less demanding tasks for the slower core. Asynchronous clock architecture can thus be considered as one of the techniques to strike an optimum balance between performance and power consumption in multi-core processor based systems.
In contrast, synchronous clock architecture implements a CPU with separate cores, with each core running at the same, fixed values of voltages and frequencies. Processors based on the big.LITTLE architecture adopt the synchronous clock architecture. "
In contrast, synchronous clock architecture implements a CPU with separate cores, with each core running at the same, fixed values of voltages and frequencies. Processors based on the big.LITTLE architecture adopt the synchronous clock architecture. "
Here's a PDF explaining the technical details of big.LITTLE and why it's so different from current designs. Those of you that are more technical will find it an interesting read. After reading it a lot of doubt about what ARM is trying to accomplish and why will be dispelled.
And none of this takes away from the fact that the S-600 is a brilliant SoC that will serve users of it well.
I'm 100% positive that it's worth of buying the One. But, although I preordered the One, I'm hoping that the S4 will not burst my bubble
If it's made of plastic and amoled screen then don't worry you will be happy, which according to rumours it looks likely.
However if its lcd 3 equivalent and no cheap plastic crap used with good design, ext sd slot similar camera, tw revamp then you can be slightly concerned.
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I just have a weird feeling about the One,I've had the iPhone 3GS since August 2009 and i've always been looking to upgrade but no phone has made me go "wow, i want that" since this One. I liked the Note 2, i've played with it loads of times but I never got round to ordering it, same with the GS3 and nothing from Apple has excited me.
2 hours after seeing hands on, very early reviews and the like I ordered it.
It's going to be good, because it has to be for my own sanity!
2 hours after seeing hands on, very early reviews and the like I ordered it.
It's going to be good, because it has to be for my own sanity!
It's HTC Sense afterall. So, this phone isn't for those who don't like Sense style.
For me, I love Sense and I love pure Android on Nexus. So, I try to keep pace with them. I never bothered myself with (or waited for) other phones.
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Dang....how you held on to that 3GS for so long...I don't know haha. Hopefully this phone satisfies your wants and needs...actually for all of us.
Well I can't imagine that it will be made from something else then plastic, because they will probably use an micro sdcard slot and a removable battery.
I think it will be to difficult to remove a battery or microsd while the phone is made completely out of aluminium
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8Couldn't have been more underwhelmed or disappointed with the One announcement. How far in denial is HTC? Did they realize they left Egypt, and entered Sudan? They just don't get it. How many tough quarters will it take for them to get their head back in the game?
Blinkfeed would make using a third party launcher a must.
Zoe is just silly, did they forget you can already shoot video?
1080p vs 720p still hasn't sold me to any actual discernable difference at a sub 5" size. But those extra pixels will take more battery to run.
Sense 5 looks nice, and it looks really responsive on the demos, but so did Sense 4...
As long as we are talking software, the One has very little chance getting decent support. Blame AT&T all you want, but they aren't the ones that promised updates. And Samsung manages to update their devices on AT&T just fine.
Why go down to 2 buttons? Android still needs a menu button, that bar popping up all the time is super annoying. If you want to get rid of the multi task or menu key, just go all the way and go on-screen with the keys.
Still skeptical about a metal frame. We all know about antennagate, and the iPhone wasn't fully metal on the back. It may turn out okay, time will tell.
Honestly, yes, the One looks darn sexy. Great looking hardware. But if they are built to the low quality standards the One X was, they won't last long. Say what you want about Samsungs cheap plastic, but they last a lot longer, and take far more abuse than HTC hardware. At the end of the day I care more about my phone lasting, than having to get a replacement every month for a different hardware issue. Even if that hardware looks nicer. Function over form every time. (That's what I like TouchWiz better than any skin, including CM/AOKP)
Then the whole aspect of the locked bootloaders, S-Off, potential for warranty denial, and other extra hoops to get custom firmware to try to mitigate some of the terrible performance it's destined to have, bothers me. Versus it being so easy on a Samsung device a cave man could do it. The One X was going to have such an amazing dev scene, but I blinked so I missed it.
My time with the One X vs my past with Samsung devices could be summed up with this analogy: HTC is a blind date, you never know what your are going to get, this time she is pretty, but every minute you spend with her she gets more obnoxious. Samsung is the girl next door, often passed over for the "prettier" girl, but the more you get to know her the more beautiful she is. If somehow my Note II is pryed from my cold dead hands it won't be for the One.
Sent from my Note ][5Yes, I think it's worth it. I'll be picking one up (Sprint variant) and I know quite a few other members of our team will be doing the same. So you know what that means we can't let you guys run around with just a "popular" build.prop tweaked kitchen ROM
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My friend the note 2 is a beast. People who brag about their display, aka dna z10 etc... have just that to brag about... their spec sheet displays lol. They look at spec sheets and say "Oh well the note 2 has 720 display so it must look ugly"...complete morons. With its non pentile display the note 2s screen is ridiculously nice.
That is where the comparison ends. In terms of battery life, features, connectivity, durability and spen functionality, no phone on the market is even in the same ball park as the note 2. Just look at the review sites around the web. Honestly I laugh at people who try to compare their phones to the Note 2. This is how our conversations usually go. ...
Random person " look at my (insert any phone) phone! Best phone on the market "
Me "ya what makes it so special?"
Random person" looking how beautiful the screen is! "
Me " ok what else can it do that my note can't"
Random person " um well..."
Me "can it do multi Window? "
Random " um no but. .."
Me " can it have 5-6 applications open at the same time. ..on the same screen"
Random "well..."
Me "do you have an spen for photo editing?"
Random " no. ..But um..."
Me "does your battery last 2 days with at least 8 hours of pure on screen time and all wireless connections enabled? "
Random " probably not. .."
Me "Do you have a floating keyboard, browser, pop up video or even pop up s note? "
Random person "... no"
Me "....so again... What makes your phone so special? "
Random " ....."
Me "matter of fact. .. ( I turn to other random person and turn the brightness up on the screen) sir which screen looks better?"
Other random "I guess this one (points to random persons phone), but it's not a big difference really.."
Me "exactly... so you have a phone that has a slightly better screen resolution... But can't compare on any other features....I think I'll be sticking to my note 2..."
Random person " ..." walks away jealous...
