HTC ONE X LTE vs HTC ONE X International

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I agree about development, but ...

One of the BIGGEST things to take into consideration is developer support. These two phones are different enough that porting things might not be worth the hassle for devs. If your favorite dev team has the international version and you don't, well you're SOL.

This is one of the biggest factors for me personally.

Sent from my Desire HD using XDA

I agree with you about development, but I have no doubt in my mind that, once the AT&T unit is out, development will soar.

Bottom line, this issue really does not worry me. However, I will say that I'm waiting with baited breath for root capabilities AND ability to perform S-OFF.

Peter
 
We don't even have ROOT yet, I think ...

Just curious, do you think that we will be able to merge the ~2gb from the app partition with the general use storage? I would love to have that 11GB of space vs 9GB you know?

Have you flashed Lee's ROM on your Rogers phone yet? If so does it work well? I would love to flash my phone out of the box if I can get some confirmation that it works on the ATT/Rogers version.

Thanks!

I haven't flashed anything yet. I don't think anyone has even developed the tools to ROOT it. I'm waiting very patiently, though.

Peter
 
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Maedhros

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just an update on my screen issue...

I took it to go get exchanged today. The unit they had out was pure yellow.

Compared to their unit mine looked white! They refused to exchange my unit so I ended up returning.

They refused to acknowledge that there were different screens on the unit despite having a completely ****ty unit on display...
 

expertzero1

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just an update on my screen issue...

I took it to go get exchanged today. The unit they had out was pure yellow.

Compared to their unit mine looked white! They refused to exchange my unit so I ended up returning.

They refused to acknowledge that there were different screens on the unit despite having a completely ****ty unit on display...

They probably havnt gotten the memo yet, htc or your carrier will let those stores know about the defect or something lol if..
 

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Great job...

I just want to let everyone know that I'm doing my best to provide as much information as possible about the Rogers ONE X, and comparisons between it and the international unit.

I'm submitting many posts, so you may want to go back and review them all. I know that when I'm reviewing a forum that really interests me, and I come back to it after a few hours, if I don't go back, I may miss some things that are very important to me.

Hopefully I'm helping.

Peter

Peter, your doing a great job supplying all the information on the HOX XL vs. HOX. :)
 
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blairh

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First off I want to thank Peter for all his great continued work in this thread. I really appreciate it and I know many others do too.

I would really appreciate some clarification regarding storage and apps on the One X(L). I know there are two different places which house memory on the One X (internal and phone) and I know that you can manually move appplications from internal to phone. However my confusion is with respect to apps. Do all apps get downloaded by default to the internal storage? And if one runs out of internal storage room, do apps automatically get downloaded onto the phone storage or must one make room on the internal storage space?

I would greatly appreciate some clarification.

I'm also going to keep a close eye on this thread and others on XDA with respect to battery life on the One XL. I'm currently using an iPhone 4 on AT&T and I wouldn't jump over to the One XL if it meant dealing with significantly worse battery performance compared to my current iPhone.

I've also seen some videos on YouTube where there is talk that it takes quite a while for the battery to charge on the One X.
 

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Yes. Thank you Peter. I really appreciate all the work you're putting in on this phone. Especially all the money you spent on these two phones.

Peter can you confirm, you only changed ROMs on the One XL right? The One X is fully stock with no mods? I'm really leary about going down the rooted path again as my DroidX had endless issues after all of the rooting fun.
 

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Been watching the X and XL forums pretty heavily. Have you seen any evidence of the Flickering Screen on either of your phones??? Seems to be a growing issue on the One X fourm.
 

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i really want to know whyyy in the world we are getting 16gb who made that decision. i can be okay with the s4 chip but in all honesty thats just so random to downgrade us so much. we will only even use 9gig of usable storage right ? damn is there any report or article as to why
 

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Everyone seems to think that it was a cost issue. Hell I would pay more for a 32Gb XL. Others seem to think its the carriers (AT&T) trying to make us use to much data and get the fee money for going over. I can see AT&T thinking like that.
 

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i really want to know whyyy in the world we are getting 16gb who made that decision. i can be okay with the s4 chip but in all honesty thats just so random to downgrade us so much. we will only even use 9gig of usable storage right ? damn is there any report or article as to why

I wouldn't really consider the S4 a "downgrade" (or at least as part of the overall "downgrade"), at the worst it is a parallel path with its own perk (LTE)
 

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honestly i think the s4 is upgrade..

integrated lte why not lol

In a blind taste test you couldn't tell the difference. Except when downloading files and data via LTE. And that of course will be followed by either a throttling text or $10 per GB overage charge on your next month's bill depending on your plan. And you wonder why AT&T's locked LTE on? But to quote AT&T, "that's so twenty nine seconds ago." ;) Love speed, hate paying for it.
 

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In a blind taste test you couldn't tell the difference. Except when downloading files and data via LTE. And that of course will be followed by either a throttling text or $10 per GB overage charge on your next month's bill depending on your plan. And you wonder why AT&T's locked LTE on? But to quote AT&T, "that's so twenty nine seconds ago." ;) Love speed, hate paying for it.

5 Gigs before you are throttled... 3 Gigs with the standard tiered plan now...

What the hell are you doing on it? I stream spotify, sirius-xm, pandora, and youtube a lot and I usually never get above 2 Gigs, let alone 5.
 

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5 Gigs before you are throttled... 3 Gigs with the standard tiered plan now...

What the hell are you doing on it? I stream spotify, sirius-xm, pandora, and youtube a lot and I usually never get above 2 Gigs, let alone 5.

I was just kidding around. But with the iPad3 out a lot of content's starting to be pushed out in HD programmatically based on the resolution the display is reporting. Users are hitting their threshold a week in to their billing month. So hitting 3-5GB using HD content isn't that hard anymore.
 

blairh

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5 Gigs before you are throttled... 3 Gigs with the standard tiered plan now...

What the hell are you doing on it? I stream spotify, sirius-xm, pandora, and youtube a lot and I usually never get above 2 Gigs, let alone 5.

Someone in another forum I frequent said they streamed Spotify for 30 minutes over 4G on their Nexus and it used 550 MB. Does that sound right to you?
 

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Rogers HTC One X is able to identify "Name Caller ID" even when you don't have the contact in your phone. But HTC One X Quad doesn't!

PS "Name Caller ID" is service provided by Rogers/Fido exclusively.

Anyone know how to make it work in Quad core version?

Thanks
 
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    As many of you already know, I now have both versions of the HTC ONE X, the international version (released out of Singapore), and the Rogers unit with LTE.

    Although it may still take a day or so, but I plan to use this post to offer my opinion on both devices, and to compare the differences in terms of data speed, wifi performance, battery consumption, and whatever else someone needs to know. If I have time, I will try my best to answer your question.

    Please remember that my company consumes upwards of 70 hours a week of my time, plus the fact that I have an amazing 2-1/2-year-old daughter, who consumes even more of my time … and she can be quite demanding. :) Fortunately, though, I have an incredible wife who puts up with my phone addiction.

    I’ll try and report back on preliminary data this evening.

    Peter

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    SUMMARY OF ALL MY POSTS UP TO THE MORNING OF APRIL 22

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    Rogers is supplying ONLY the white version at this point. There is no indication at this time if they will also carry the grey version.

    ORIGINAL SOFTWARE (ROM)
    ROM (Software Number): 1.73.631.1
    Android Version: 4.0.3
    HTC Sense: 4.0
    HTC SDK API Level: 4.11
    HTC Extension Version: HTCExtension_403_1_GA_4
    Baseband Version: 0.16a.32.09.06_10.81.32.14L
    RIL: Unknown
    Kernel Version: 3.0.8-01111-g188cf26
    Build Number: 1.73.631.1 CL54373 release-keys
    Browser Version: WebKit/534.30

    There are only four system languages: English-Canada, Spanish, French, and Chinese. There is no option for English-US or English-UK.

    Initial impression: Fantastic (much like the international version)

    Response: Also fantastic on both units.

    Security-Unknown Sources default is to allow installation of non-Market apps (surprising).

    Total available internal space: 2.15GB
    Total available storage space: 9.93GB (In case you ask, yes, 9.93 is correct)

    Boot screen is typical Rogers: Red letters with white background on boot, and white letters with red background on power down. The boot process is about 90% HTC ONE X, with only a brief appearance by the Rogers red/white logo; however, the entire power down screen is Rogers.

    Rogers LTE APN:

    Name: Rogers LTE
    APN: ltemobile.apn
    Proxy: Not set
    Port: Not set
    Username: Not set
    Password: Not set
    Server: Not set
    MMSC: http://mms.gprs.rogers.com
    MMS Proxy: 10.128.1.69
    MMS Port: 80
    MMS Protocol: WAP 2.0
    MCC: 302
    MNC: 720
    Authentication Type: None
    APN Type: *
    APN enable/disable: APN enabled (default)
    Bearer: Unspecified

    Here are the network selection options in the Mobile Network Settings:

    HSPA only
    GSM only
    GSM / HSPA auto
    GSM / HSPA / LTE auto

    Yes, you can shut off LTE if that's what you want, and it works. I selected GSM/HSPA auto to see if it would NOT try to access LTE, and it didn’t. It stayed on GSM/HSPA, even during my speed tests.

    There's very little bloatware. Here's what's installed, other than standard HTC apps:

    Rogers 1 Contact
    Rogers 1 Number
    Rogers Games
    Rogers My Account
    Polaris Office
    Rogers Ringtones
    Rogers Live
    Rogers Shop
    SoundHound
    TuneIn Radio
    Rogers urMusic
    Twitter
    YouTube

    Here are some initial benchmark comparisons. Keep in mind that my Rogers unit is not rooted, so I could not optimize certain things, including SDCard read/write tweaks.

    The international ONE X figures below are the average for 3-4 test runs.

    AnTuTu:
    Rogers = 7002 / International = 10576
    Clearly the Tegra3 outperforms the SnapDragon

    Quadrant:
    Rogers = 4851 / International = 4670
    Surprising!

    Vellamo:
    Rogers = 2184 / International = 1608
    Wow, even I'm shocked!

    CF:
    Rogers = 12725 / International = 24451 (Yes, THAT high)
    This is what you'd expect, so not surprising.

    After a second round of testing, here are Test 1/Test 2 comparisons. They are virtually identical (with the exception of Vellamo, where there was a significant improvement). Numbers in brackets () are the average scores for the international unit.

    AnTuTu: 7002 / 7001 (10576)
    Quadrant: 4851 / 4833 (4670)
    Vellamo: 2184 / 2360 (1608)
    CF: 12725 / 12750 (24451)

    There’s a significant physical difference between the two designs. The glass cover over the camera on the international unit is absolutely flush with the camera frame (the part that sticks out and has been the topic of much negative discussion). This is not the case on the Rogers unit. The glass cover is about 1/2mm below the frame. It's not much, but certainly a lot when you consider putting your phone down on a surface that's somewhat rough. At least there's a bit of space now. Here’s a link to some images of both camera covers:

    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25138374&postcount=78

    Here are average data results for the Rogers unit after three tests in each category:

    LTE Download: 29.77 to 39.63 Mbps
    LTE Upload: 26.28 to 26.83 Mbps

    HSPA Download: 5.55 to 6.91 Mbps
    HSPA Upload: 1.09 to 2.71 Mbps

    The LTE is amazing, not to mention that I was getting only 1-3 bars with LTE, yet I was still able to get fantastic speeds. I was getting 5 bars for the HSPA tests.

    The Rogers unit does NOT come with headphones. Here’s what’s in the box:

    The phone
    USB cable
    Charger
    Special device to open the SIM slot (although a paperclip works equally well)
    Documentation

    A question was asked by Flyarnk in another forum about an alleged problem with call NAME display. I can confirm that call NAME display works; however, the call does not show up in the call record.

    Both Wifi hotspot and USB tethering work flawlessly, and they are very easy to set up.

    I've been using the phone for about 20 hours, and my current impression is fantastic. I haven't yet found a single glitch. So far everything is working flawlessly. The Rogers unit is butter smooth and effortless. I did not get the same impression with the international unit. As I mentioned before, there were numerous glitches and unusual behaviour with many apps when I started using the international unit. It wasn't until I installed the LeeDrOiD ROM when almost every problem was solved.

    Both units have the typical HTC FM radio; however, the Rogers unit also has TuneIn Radio, and it includes both FM and AM. Yes, they work great.

    Both units support NFC.

    DropBox works flawlessly.

    The overall finish on both units is exceptional. I can't tell if there's any difference between the two. There are no chips or anything like what’s being noted about the HTC ONE S.

    In my opinion, I cannot see any reason why cases would not fit both phones. Yes, there is the very minor physical difference in camera covers, but I can’t see that interfering with the fit of a case.

    As you may recall, I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a profile that sets automatically at 11pm each evening to what is effectively airplane mode. This then automatically changes to my morning profile at 7am each morning.

    On my previous phones, mostly HTC, but a few by Samsung (see signature), the battery would drop to anywhere from 95% to 92% during this "airplane mode" period.

    With the international ONE X, however, it was still at 100% at 7am each morning. This is probably due to the use of the 5th core, where the phone goes into very deep sleep. However, I can now report that the Rogers unit is equally frugal.

    Last night I charged my phone to 100%. I unplugged the phone at exactly 10:59pm, and then allowed it to automatically go into airplane mode at 11pm. I did not touch the phone until 5am this morning. Okay, it's not 7am, but 5am isn't much different when I tell you the results. Now you may be asking why I touched it at 5am. Well, I couldn't sleep, so I got up at 4am and went to work. Then, at exactly 5am, I woke up the phone, and the battery still indicated 100%. I can only assume that it would probably still be 100% at 7am, or maybe 99% at worst.

    Regardless, it seems that in sleep mode, both phones use almost zero power.

    It's not a technical test by any means, but it's a simple comparison. I will do more battery testing tomorrow when I have much more time to leave both phones with their displays on, and both in virtually the same "situation."

    MORE TO COME ...
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    Physical Camera Differences ...

    Below are images of the camera cover and overall protrusion.

    The diameter of the entire camera frame/trim is as follows:

    Rogers: 24mm
    International: 22mm

    ONE_X_Recessed_Cover.jpg


    ONE_X_Camera_Differences.jpg


    As you can see, there are other minor differences, and I tried my best to get images of the recessed glass cover over the Rogers unit, and the flush cover on the international unit.

    Peter

    Addendum: I forgot to say that the overall thickness of the phone measured exactly at the centre of the camera is 11.5mm for the Rogers unit and 11mm for the international unit. Therefore, my earlier guess that the glass cover is about 1/2mm below the outer frame is, in fact, accurate. It seems that HTC supplied not only a casing that's larger in diameter, but also 1/2mm thicker, to recess the glass a bit.
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    More Image Comparisons ...

    Looks much better on the dual core version. Less noise and sharpening artifact. But its hard to be sure when the focus point is much further back on the tegra version. Can you repeat the test with both focused at the same point?

    I did the test again, but this time I focused on the exact same point (marked by RED circle), and I tried my very best to position both phones in exactly the same spot.

    Here are smaller images, side-by-side. The Rogers unit is on the left.

    ROG_OneX_Small.jpg
    INT_OneX_Small.jpg


    Here is the original Rogers image, no processing, all camera settings identical:

    ROG_OneX.jpg


    Here is the original International image, no processing, all camera settings identical:

    INT_OneX.jpg


    Again, I'd have to say that the Rogers unit provides a truer image with slightly less noise, although, the differences this time are very small. In fact, they are almost unnoticeable.

    Peter

    Addendum: Here are two 100% cropped images for further comparison:

    Rogers on Top

    ROG_OneX_Crop.jpg


    INT_OneX_Crop.jpg
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    There's a summary of all my comments in post 1 ...

    Hopefully this will make it a bit easier for some people.

    I've summarized all my comments on the original post. This is up to and including this morning (my time) of April 22, 2012.

    Peter
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    Darn... got my 1X and settings menu looks yellow...

    Don't have any other unit to compare to. Will post pics a little later.

    Pete... could you kindly take some pics of both your screens using a LCD testing app like display tester?

    Thanks

    Yellow...

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    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25017508&postcount=1


    Not yellow (mine)...

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    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25024269&postcount=9