[ROM][KANG][IMM76L][v01.01] Non-official CyanogenMod 9

djpry · Jun 24, 2012

Sympnotic said:
Don't forget that (dynamic) compression degrades the sound quality to make it louder, most of the mordern music is now compressed a lot already.
If you guys wanna listen to "synthetic sounds" with no variations that's fine, if you want to loose some percent of your ears because of a "tiny better bass" that's still fine,
but you're warned now

I COMPLETELY AGREE TO THIS.....but some of us love it when the sound is bit more on the bass..and frankly the stock sound lack bass punch a bit....am sure most of us will sacrifice a bit of mid and high for a bit more of low punch

Sympnotic · Jun 24, 2012

djpry said:
I COMPLETELY AGREE TO THIS.....but some of us love it when the sound is bit more on the bass..and frankly the stock sound lack bass punch a bit....am sure most of us will sacrifice a bit of mid and high for a bit more of low punch

Compression and EQ are different, I guess Bass boost is a multi-band compressor that browse for low hz between 30 and 100hz, because compressing reduces dynamics for Db level, EQ (most of bands EQ actually) only increase Db over a band (frequency range) and therefore gives distortion.
Low frequency needs more "power" physicly to sound at same "level" than the rest (higher) frequencies.

Everyone knows (at least those recording things on computers) low frequencies WILL definitively need compression, mixing it well with the song is one of the goal (finding the better match like pc speakers => low volume = less bass than rest || high volume = fat boom boom)
low frequencies always are mono AND compressed and the more the decades goes, the more CDs get -over-compressed in studios (if you're interressed in sociology and ethno-musicology, there's a "war of sound" thesis explaining the "fight to sound fat and big" which is really entertaining (pm me for the link))

Hence you get the thing, you should get the fact it's neither good or bad, it's a matter of perception, people don't have all developped their ears to ear this kind of details (lambda people listening to radio f-e).

Well-used compression is powerful, it really "transmit" the energy/feelings the band gave while recording.
Bad usage could be what you could observe when listening to jazz on 240p (thanks youtube!) just browse for some Louis Armstrong, listen it to the highest quality at good volume, then take a shot at switching to 240p.
In the 50/60's, studios weren't all about "sounding loud" and therefore weren't using much compressors (on voices / instruments / etc...), listening to such vynils or well-mastered CDs is pure beauty but you'll have to turn that volume UP!
That organic un-compressed sound ended up on Youtube and got encoded many times (ie. original uploaded => encoding to 1080p <---> 240p) and you can cleary hear the differences on tones Armstrong has, singing and playing trumpet...
Youtube's encoding process has compressed and reduced quality, It's like singing in a shoebox, while there might be people liking shoebox singers, I'd better like Armstrong's voice IRL singing in my hears.

My 2 cents, My 2 ears

ErwinP · Jun 24, 2012

Sympnotic said:
I know this keep the topic alive, tho we should focus on stability / performance / bug fixes, hence we could get fancy with profiles and stuff.
Furthermore, you've been into layouts a bit, I'd better see you resizing things than merging stuff

I'm sorry to say, but I don't agree with this. I see my phone as something that has to be as nifty as possible, with a perfect balance between performance, handyness and eye candy. When looking in gerrit, I always seek things that improve one factor without endangering others. I like the screen-off animation -> I merge it. I switch lots between profiles -> I merge it. I'm always very aware on possible problems and/or performance issues, and always keep an eye on the comments on gerrit. But if the experimental merge doens't cause a problem and I like it as it is, I will keep it. Most of the merges I pick, doesn't force you to use it (I can only remember the linaro toolchain as a obligatory cherry-pick). So if you don't like it, you can simply not use it or give me a reason why I should not keep it in future builds, I will be always prepared to listen.

I started building CM9 for myself and, allow me to be very honest, I still do it primarily for myself. But I am extremely happy that I can contribute to this community and the joy of you all by sharing it. That is the reason why I try to make as much updates as possible to share with you all. However, my main reason for trying to make better builds, will never be to please as much people as possible, to get as many thanks as possible or "to keep the toppic alive". I only do it because I want to get a better and more usefull phone.
I must admit, "keeping the toppic alive" allows others to get interested in it as well, and thus deliver fixes that I would never could have developed/found. I'm very grateful for that, but still, if you don't like the few changes & merges I make "for myself", then someone else has to start building and sharing with you all; I'd be happy to pass the torch to someone else and make my own "personalized" builds, base on the sub-official one.

I can understand why you don't like me seeing merging things that you don't like/don't want/are not interested in. And that you would like to see me fix things, like resizement, that makes us all happy. But let us be honest, new options are way more exciting than spending hours on difficult and cumbersome resizements, so I don't think you can blame me for trying them out

As always, no pressure on you (or anybody!) on fixing things, enjoy the football spectacle instead!

PS: Although the solution was in the end located somewhere else, if it wasn't for my interest in the profile toggle, I wouldn't have found how to get the torch toggle working.

EDIT:
Forgive me if I sound ungrateful, that is not my intention: I'm very happy with every solution that anybody reaches for getting this ROM better and better.

djpry · Jun 24, 2012

@ Sympnotic

it took me a while to understand ...got it now....

Sympnotic · Jun 24, 2012

ErwinP said:
I'm sorry to say, but I don't agree with this. I see my phone as something that has to be as nifty as possible, with a perfect balance between performance, handyness and eye candy. When looking in gerrit, I always seek things that improve one factor without endangering others. I like the screen-off animation -> I merge it. I switch lots between profiles -> I merge it. I'm always very aware on possible problems and/or performance issues, and always keep an eye on the comments on gerrit. But if the experimental merge doens't cause a problem and I like it as it is, I will keep it. Most of the merges I pick, doesn't force you to use it (I can only remember the linaro toolchain as a obligatory cherry-pick). So if you don't like it, you can simply not use it or give me a reason why I should not keep it in future builds, I will be always prepared to listen.

I started building CM9 for myself and, allow me to be very honest, I still do it primarily for myself. But I am extremely happy that I can contribute to this community and the joy of you all by sharing it. That is the reason why I try to make as much updates as possible to share with you all. However, my main reason for trying to make better builds, will never be to please as much people as possible, to get as many thanks as possible or "to keep the toppic alive". I only do it because I want to get a better and more usefull phone.
I must admit, "keeping the toppic alive" allows others to get interested in it as well, and thus deliver fixes that I would never could have developed/found. I'm very grateful for that, but still, if you don't like the few changes & merges I make "for myself", then someone else has to start building and sharing with you all; I'd be happy to pass the torch to someone else and make my own "personalized" builds, base on the sub-official one.

I can understand why you don't like me seeing merging things that you don't like/don't want/are not interested in. And that you would like to see me fix things, like resizement, that makes us all happy. But let us be honest, new options are way more exciting than spending hours on difficult and cumbersome resizements, so I don't think you can blame me for trying them out

As always, no pressure on you (or anybody!) on fixing things, enjoy the football spectacle instead!

PS: Although the solution was in the end located somewhere else, if it wasn't for my interest in the profile toggle, I wouldn't have found how to get the torch toggle working.

EDIT:
Forgive me if I sound ungrateful, that is not my intention: I'm very happy with every solution that anybody reaches for getting this ROM better and better.

Sure, I can only agree on this one, our phones should be making coffee, I'm only pointing the fact that you're merging commits that are tiny, sure to be merged (really) soon and that's adding a "part of work" from you that you could put aside doing something else. I'm not judging you in anyway, I'm just trying to put a direction into all this (and you've stated right, you wouldn't figure as fast how to solve things that doesn't serve you)

If we have a stable base, most of the hardware working to be a daily driver, apps that are essentials and part of using 100% of our phone (like FM app or camera; etc

) then I would pick "finitions" not to be dependant of CM gerrit. Remaining work is tiny, that's what my point is based on (not including Camera half working and Encoder/decoder not working (along with youtube HQ problem) that are actually not fixable because it seems we lack OpenMax driver for Armv6 on ICS)

The all point of their organisation (ie. gerrit and reviewing and so on) is to make maintainers working on their device to be working, and have developpers working on "generic codes" that will be merged once it's reviewed stable and done the right way.
I get the fact you're happy helping people while you did this for yourself, who's not being grateful to see an ICS rom for our wildfire ? Don't get me wrong, I'm only speaking in term of a simili "roadmap", I'm arguing on HOW to do it, not WHY or FOR WHO, and I've already thought of making a separate thread to post "pure" CM9, there's simply no point at doing so and you're managing it just fine...

Long explication short, I'm not asking you to say "yes" everytime I speak (and that's not my point) but if I'm helping you, you'll have to take in consideration that this is a project (people expects things from this, it needs a direction), that I'm not speaking "personnally" and attacking you on what you're doing. You've finished studies and did a thesis, I guess you know as much as I know, working with people needs organisation, and it's always a better way to oppose two ideas better than being "scared" of speaking, the fact being ideas can be discuted and worked out.

Still no pressure, I've been waiting patiently to have enough motivation, so you should do if you're asked for something to do.
I'm mostly only using my phone for texts and calls, if I only had to fix what serves me then I'll get my 3310 out of the closet

Just kidding, hopes you've got my point and we're still good

yohanandz · Jun 24, 2012

so i gave away the wildfire for a sensation xe
just a thanks to all the devs who worked on this rom and helped me use ics on the WF

Scratch0805 · Jun 24, 2012

Sympnotic said:
Compression and EQ are different, I guess Bass boost is a multi-band compressor that browse for low hz between 30 and 100hz, because compressing reduces dynamics for Db level, EQ (most of bands EQ actually) only increase Db over a band (frequency range) and therefore gives distortion.
Low frequency needs more "power" physicly to sound at same "level" than the rest (higher) frequencies.

Everyone knows (at least those recording things on computers) low frequencies WILL definitively need compression, mixing it well with the song is one of the goal (finding the better match like pc speakers => low volume = less bass than rest || high volume = fat boom boom)
low frequencies always are mono AND compressed and the more the decades goes, the more CDs get -over-compressed in studios (if you're interressed in sociology and ethno-musicology, there's a "war of sound" thesis explaining the "fight to sound fat and big" which is really entertaining (pm me for the link))

Hence you get the thing, you should get the fact it's neither good or bad, it's a matter of perception, people don't have all developped their ears to ear this kind of details (lambda people listening to radio f-e).

Well-used compression is powerful, it really "transmit" the energy/feelings the band gave while recording.
Bad usage could be what you could observe when listening to jazz on 240p (thanks youtube!) just browse for some Louis Armstrong, listen it to the highest quality at good volume, then take a shot at switching to 240p.
In the 50/60's, studios weren't all about "sounding loud" and therefore weren't using much compressors (on voices / instruments / etc...), listening to such vynils or well-mastered CDs is pure beauty but you'll have to turn that volume UP!
That organic un-compressed sound ended up on Youtube and got encoded many times (ie. original uploaded => encoding to 1080p <---> 240p) and you can cleary hear the differences on tones Armstrong has, singing and playing trumpet...
Youtube's encoding process has compressed and reduced quality, It's like singing in a shoebox, while there might be people liking shoebox singers, I'd better like Armstrong's voice IRL singing in my hears.

My 2 cents, My 2 ears

So true, digital music these days sucks unless you really know what to do with it, doesn't matter how much you up the frequencies, doing that only distorts the true sound which will most likely have been made on a straight level to sound as clear as possible on all formats or as mentioned by symp compressed heavily resulting in lower quality sound.

Bring back vinyl is all I can say on the matter, ive been dj'ing for the last 13 years hence the name scratch and would happily walk around with my record bag and one of my 1210's if I could.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

Sam3087 · Jun 24, 2012

ErwinP said:
Updates worth mentioning regarding the Wildfire

Torch toggle from the notification aria is enabled

Lockscreen background customization is safe and working

Muting in a phone call should be enabled now (thanks to Sam3087)

Added experimental profile toggle (here and here)

Untill stated otherwise, the new builds won't have the Linaro toolchain anymore, as it is reported to break too much things. However, all the speed optimizations from Linaro are still present

Erwin

Way to go Erwin. Thanks for taking muting issue into consideration. Big thanks for that. Also i do find a splendid speed difference between this build and probably a month back. I can say that its almost 5 times faster.
Thank you for the time that you spend in these builds. :good:

Pator57 · Jun 24, 2012

Erwin p could you make two diferent build when the rom wil be finish, one final build ( i hope with all working).And one personilisation build with all the tweaks you add ?
AND BIG THANKS TO SHARE YOU WORK.IT'S AMAZING FOR ALL POEPLE WHO AREN'T DEV OR ONLY A LITTLE.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Alphabrad · Jun 24, 2012

djpry said:
beats for cm9 has arrived....njoy
go to the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1728499

ya ive tested this beats mod, it certainly does improve quality but force closes a lot mate.

Justice™ · Jun 24, 2012

Pator57 said:
Erwin p could you make two diferent build when the rom wil be finish, one final build ( i hope with all working).And one personilisation build with all the tweaks you add ?
AND BIG THANKS TO SHARE YOU WORK.IT'S AMAZING FOR ALL POEPLE WHO AREN'T DEV OR ONLY A LITTLE.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Can't you zipdev your own rom. It'd be personalized and you could claim your a dev by opening something up and installing a few apks.

pauch_19@yahoo.com · Jun 24, 2012

is it still safe to use 200mb partition on system for the new update? was using 200/5 i think on the previous build.

thanks

ErwinP · Jun 24, 2012

Sympnotic said:
Sure, I can only agree on this one, our phones should be making coffee, I'm only pointing the fact that you're merging commits that are tiny, sure to be merged (really) soon and that's adding a "part of work" from you that you could put aside doing something else. I'm not judging you in anyway, I'm just trying to put a direction into all this (and you've stated right, you wouldn't figure as fast how to solve things that doesn't serve you)

If we have a stable base, most of the hardware working to be a daily driver, apps that are essentials and part of using 100% of our phone (like FM app or camera; etc ) then I would pick "finitions" not to be dependant of CM gerrit. Remaining work is tiny, that's what my point is based on (not including Camera half working and Encoder/decoder not working (along with youtube HQ problem) that are actually not fixable because it seems we lack OpenMax driver for Armv6 on ICS)

The all point of their organisation (ie. gerrit and reviewing and so on) is to make maintainers working on their device to be working, and have developpers working on "generic codes" that will be merged once it's reviewed stable and done the right way.
I get the fact you're happy helping people while you did this for yourself, who's not being grateful to see an ICS rom for our wildfire ? Don't get me wrong, I'm only speaking in term of a simili "roadmap", I'm arguing on HOW to do it, not WHY or FOR WHO, and I've already thought of making a separate thread to post "pure" CM9, there's simply no point at doing so and you're managing it just fine...

Long explication short, I'm not asking you to say "yes" everytime I speak (and that's not my point) but if I'm helping you, you'll have to take in consideration that this is a project (people expects things from this, it needs a direction), that I'm not speaking "personnally" and attacking you on what you're doing. You've finished studies and did a thesis, I guess you know as much as I know, working with people needs organisation, and it's always a better way to oppose two ideas better than being "scared" of speaking, the fact being ideas can be discuted and worked out.

Still no pressure, I've been waiting patiently to have enough motivation, so you should do if you're asked for something to do.
I'm mostly only using my phone for texts and calls, if I only had to fix what serves me then I'll get my 3310 out of the closet
Just kidding, hopes you've got my point and we're still good

I get your point, and I will keep it surely in mind. You are right that people are now having expectations on this, and I promise to keep that in mind as well, perhaps even more than I'm doing now. Especially if we want to keep this a collaborative project, and no personal KANG.
But just a little bit to my defense, the profile toggle commit had died a little bit on gerrit, without an obvious reason. So in stead of waiting for it to merge (like I'm doing now with the increasing call volume feature), I decided to merge it myself and check it out, as I would love to see it merged. I cannot promise you that I will wait every time, but again, I will do my best to show patience and surely to not merge anything that hinders the overall usability/performance of the ROM. But cherry-picking, well, I just love to check out new features, so it is difficult to hold in

Oh well, let us leave it behind us.
Something else: I have the notion that the call screen doesn't lag that much anymore? Where I previously missed my calls due to the lag, the screen is now visible when I get it out of my pocket!

EDIT:

Pator57 said:
Erwin p could you make two diferent build when the rom wil be finish, one final build ( i hope with all working).And one personilisation build with all the tweaks you add ?

I won't. First, that would take too much organisational power of me, and at the end all will be messed up. Secondly, my personal addons are minimal and not worth a second build. At the moment, only the profile toggle is from personal flavour. And the Linaro optimizations, but I don't think anyone wants to get rid of those

pauch_19@yahoo.com said:
is it still safe to use 200mb partition on system for the new update?

That is still my partition size (using the tiny gapps).

pauch_19@yahoo.com · Jun 24, 2012

thanks erwin...just finished downloading and im giving it a go now.

rajumack07 · Jun 24, 2012

djpry said:
well wifi tethering consumes a lot of battery and makes the phone shoot up its temp to 45-48*c

so i prefer not using it....

usb tethering will be a great treat...if anyone can figure it out to fix it please

Thanks ErwinP and all the developers for this continuous support and as a result of which we get what we haven't thought we'll get when ICS first released.

@djpry: I had been using USB tethering since the beginning of this ICS thread. Also, I didn't found anyone complaining of that either. But since no one had replied to your query. I thought to write the resolution (I am writing this with internet being provided by my wildy connected through USB.)

Provided you have installed all the drivers, go to terminal and write this:
su - for super user access then
ifconfig<space>usb0<space>0.0.0.0

Now, enable data and connect your wildy and you will get the USB tethering working..

Hit thanks if I have helped.

Pator57 · Jun 24, 2012

Justice™ said:
Can't you zipdev your own rom. It'd be personalized and you could claim your a dev by opening something up and installing a few apks.

Lol no it's because erwin p say he make this rom for him at the base and so he make personalisation.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Pator57 · Jun 24, 2012

How disable the ics transition wen we change landscape for portrait mod??

Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Sympnotic · Jun 24, 2012

Pator57 said:
Lol no it's because erwin p say he make this rom for him at the base and so he make personalisation.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

CM sources :
-1- official branch (what is merged is official)
-2- custom CM9 with un-merged-yet stuff unofficially merged

This rom is type 2; all relative tweaks done to our device is the "only" way to go.
Erasing them to do seperate builds will only releave in people downloading the "tweaked" one

PS: referring to "tweaks" as tweaks in system.prop or build.prop, it is not to be mistaken from what can be commited to ErwinPs github.

PS2: the only tweaks I would pull apart and/or modify and/or do otherwise are those init.d's I did not really cared about since now, definitively needs cleanup.

ghostbusted · Jun 24, 2012

Pator57 said:
Erwin p could you make two diferent build when the rom wil be finish, one final build ( i hope with all working).And one personilisation build with all the tweaks you add ?
AND BIG THANKS TO SHARE YOU WORK.IT'S AMAZING FOR ALL POEPLE WHO AREN'T DEV OR ONLY A LITTLE.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Mr. pator .. ooo mr pator

"TapatalkerZ"

djpry · Jun 24, 2012

rajumack07 said:
Thanks ErwinP and all the developers for this continuous support and as a result of which we get what we haven't thought we'll get when ICS first released.

@djpry: I had been using USB tethering since the beginning of this ICS thread. Also, I didn't found anyone complaining of that either. But since no one had replied to your query. I thought to write the resolution (I am writing this with internet being provided by my wildy connected through USB.)

Provided you have installed all the drivers, go to terminal and write this:
su - for super user access then
ifconfig<space>usb0<space>0.0.0.0

Now, enable data and connect your wildy and you will get the USB tethering working..

Hit thanks if I have helped.

tnks man it does work :good:

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