Rooting Incredible S [Not Done Yet] Questions & Discussion

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Hi guys, i have been following closely to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980497 ...

that is the best rooting IS thread..
i opened this thread is to stop / a place for people to post question & discuss...
reason: because the thread link above... is a place for devs update infos..
so kindly please post question / discuss here instead..

P.S dont turn that great thread to a spam thread. thank you!


EDIT:.

FAQ - Credit l0st.prophet & timbo007up

Great idea jetty.
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The devs will (hopefully) keep this thread monitored all the time (at least i will), but dont expect a answer within seconds :P

We will try to answer all your questions here. And please keep the original thread nice and clean. Thanks to jenny we now have a thread that can be open for answers.
I hope jenny is willing to update the 1st post with faq's and alike. (i will try to provide them as much as possible). Thanks to knightrocker we have a lot of good basic stuff to tell about :P

So lets discuss and ask

p.s. yes i will be annoyed by people who don't read and ask the same question that has already been answered (probably multiple times :P)

So how do I root my IS? can someone give me a link please?
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jk

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Dude... Please read the topic ... We arent done rooting yet ... But it will come soon ... Please atleast a little before u post :P

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Hmmm ... Soo that secu_flag=1 in too deep down too bad ... I will have a look at kexec ... Sounds nice

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Hmmm did a bit of reading on kexec. Timbo i have a question, u said u are trying to use it, but u cant boot into it.

Maybe that is because it is already being used? From what i read, kexec sounds a LOT like the fastboot option on htc's to me. And i don think u can overlap two kernels over the original one. Maybe thats why it was never tried :P

Please correct me if im wrong.

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Knightrocker just wait mate we are busy with it

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I must say u: im not that much of a linux programmer, mainly tester, but getting to know it. We are just trying to use it (or misuse if u want) to run our code.
Dont know exactly how it works, but it is useable to bypass some of the HTC security that is build in. But like u said: its never been used before, but thats only partial true. It is being used on the X10, and 4 days ago they announced that they succesfull used it to run there own kernel and roms.

Currently there are people working on it and as usual there are only just a few persons who really know what there doing (not me included :P) so also i have to wait. Just have a little more know how because i'm involved with it

As soon as i know how it exactly works i am willing to document it (if allowed by the devs though) because maybe we dont want HTC to know how we do it exactly, because it will probably be to easy to disabled again haha.

Heres a starter for the faq

Root, s-off what does that mean?
If you don’t know what root is, go away and do some research. Not going to cover that.
Temp-root/shell-root: By using the psneuter exploit we can get temp-root. This allows us to execute more commands and gives us access to the whole system.
S-on/S-off: Disable the security that is also known as the NAND lock. When S-on is enabled it prevents us to write to the system partition (and various others). They can be written but it will be discarded when you reboot. So we see it as not writeable.

How do I check if im s-on?
Disable the fastboot option in setting > application. Shutdown. Hold down vol-down + powerbutton until you get to a white screen. Read the first line. Should say something like “Vivo bla bla S-ON”. If it says you are S-OFF you are lucky .

What is responsible for the s-on?
The radio firmware (not accesable trough the system directly) sets an flag (secu_flag) to 1 or 0, 1 for s-on, 0 for s-off. To get s-offed we somehow need to change that flag. Currently not possible for our phones.