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Exclamation Let me make things clear...

mod edit: Posting PMs in public without consent is rude at best. I'll consider the below an 'open PM' back to me:

Let me say this. Everyone KNOWS XDA-DEVELOPERS is where it's at! I am in no way attempting to take away from the FORUMS, or even the WIKI! But... the Wiki is nice and all, I just see a better way. I am not taking ANYONE from XDA, I'm offering higher speed downloads, a dedicated server, and am not attempting to keep anyone from going to XDA. I am simply attempting to make (a generous one I think) an attempt to bridge the gap for files. They are gone!! We spend hours trying to find what we need. I'm trying to fix that.

Obviously the community is interested in what I am attempting to offer. Again, I am in no way trying to take from the community. I am trying to add to what is alreay here. Don't be so INSECURE. XDA is the best. I know that, you know that, we all know that. Without XDA my phone would be something totally different, and I appreciate that.

Now, I'll gladly move somewhere else if you want to keep on with the drama, as so many others have. Is XDA developers a dictatorship? Or does the community make it what it is? A community? I'm here to add to, not take away from. Don't like it? Get over it. Get under it. Or get behind it, you choose.
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Regardless of what your intentions are, you are breaking the rules. So just stop doing it. You are trying to stir up drama for no reason.

I'll highlight the portions of the rules you're breaking.

11. Donít post with the intention of selling something.

ēDonít use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar/substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.

ēEncouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.
 
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Ok so one snwagner was not trying to sell anything two it's very very convenient to have an awesome site with highspeed downloads. Three why is it such a big deal if posts links. Everyone on xda has posted a link which can draw people away from the website. So now is it illegal to post links on xda? Give me a break.
 
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Let me say this. Everyone KNOWS XDA-DEVELOPERS is where it's at! I am in no way attempting to take away from the FORUMS, or even the WIKI! But... the Wiki is nice and all, I just see a better way. I am not taking ANYONE from XDA, I'm offering higher speed downloads, a dedicated server, and am not attempting to keep anyone from going to XDA. I am simply attempting to make (a generous one I think) an attempt to bridge the gap for files. They are gone!! We spend hours trying to find what we need. I'm trying to fix that.
As I said in my PM, everyone appreciates a good file host. I recognize that you are providing a service that is valuable, and that it is in line with the XDA rules on off-site downloads.

Obviously the community is interested in what I am attempting to offer. Again, I am in no way trying to take from the community. I am trying to add to what is alreay here.
But... you're not adding it here...?
Don't be so INSECURE. XDA is the best. I know that, you know that, we all know that. Without XDA my phone would be something totally different, and I appreciate that.
Insecurity is not the issue - the rules are the issue. This thread discusses starting a phone information site (albeit not a 'forum', per se), which is certainly against the spirit of rule 11. Again, as I mentioned in my PM, I agree that the forum format is not the best way to deliver or index all information, and the wikis exist to address that. They seem like an ideal canvas for the type of information you want to aggregate and the method you wish to use to distribute that information.

Now, I'll gladly move somewhere else if you want to keep on with the drama, as so many others have. Is XDA developers a dictatorship? Or does the community make it what it is? A community?
There's no drama here as far as I'm concerned. XDA is a community with rules, just like every other community. I'm advising you against potentially taking resources away from our community, which, again, is covered by parts of rule 11.
I'm here to add to, not take away from. Don't like it? Get over it. Get under it. Or get behind it, you choose.
I am 100% behind you adding to the community here via posting, hosting, or anything else. It's my job as a moderator to support that! Let's put this behind us and go back to work.


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@snwagner, you'd probably get better luck using twitter and hashtagging XDAdevelopers and Droidx and giving it as an option. I'm don't know the site politics, but if they're sensitive to that sort of thing, there are other avenues.
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Mrkite, if you ever actually spend time on this forum as a normal member of the community instead of a mod, you would see that people get very tired of being asked the same question over and over again. To my knowledge, NOBODY uses the wiki, if they have a question, they will ask it in the forum. And everyone is tired of threads about how to root and unroot. This site will eliminate the need for those questions and by doing this make the community more productive.

Now I understand that you are just trying to enforce the rules of the site. However, I think you should consider the benefits of this site before you immediately consider it illegal. If you think this is illegal can you please tell me how you allow people to post links to other sites because these tell people directly to leave the site. How can you possibly allow this but not allow out site? Have you even looked at the site? It is not, in any way, a forum and more people will be able to root, which would draw more people to xda.
 
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Mrkite, if you ever actually spend time on this forum as a normal member of the community instead of a mod, you would see that people get very tired of being asked the same question over and over again. To my knowledge, NOBODY uses the wiki, if they have a question, they will ask it in the forum. And everyone is tired of threads about how to root and unroot. This site will eliminate the need for those questions and by doing this make the community more productive.

Now I understand that you are just trying to enforce the rules of the site. However, I think you should consider the benefits of this site before you immediately consider it illegal. If you think this is illegal can you please tell me how you allow people to post links to other sites because these tell people directly to leave the site. How can you possibly allow this but not allow out site? Have you even looked at the site? It is not, in any way, a forum and more people will be able to root, which would draw more people to xda.
I'm very aware of the issues you mention. The better the wiki is, the more people will use it, which should mean less duplicate threads / posts, which is why I suggest directing your time there.

Posting links to resources outside XDA is allowed - not doing so would be unhelpful and impossible to enforce. But when someone starts a thread on XDA that says "Hey, I'm going to start a new site that will compete with XDA - come with me" - why would XDA allow that? I am not arguing with your reasons, but the method is not allowed.

This thread is closed. If you have any further questions, please PM me.

If there are any further concerns on this, please PM me.


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