[Q] questions about sense bloat

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I've read a number of general complaints about sense being bloated and unremovable but would like to understand what device resources are unavoidably consumed by it.

If it's just storage space I'm not too concered about that. But taking up RAM with programs/features I don't want is another matter, as is any wasted CPU-cycles it might spend automatically running programs in the background, or intercepting UI events.

I ask this without knowing specifically what in sense is believed to be bloated. Is there a way to see a list of things it runs or could run, and to disable each feature I don't want? Again, I don't mind if the unwanted programs remain in storage, as long as they are never run and thus don't consume RAM/CPU.

When I watch videos of the G2X, it's mind-boggling how fast every aspect of the UI is. What is sense doing that keeps the evo 3d / sensation from achieving the same level of snappiness? I have a hard time believing excessive RAM-usage or CPU even is playing any role in simply scrolling through the tray of apps. So what is it that affects things like simple scrolling speed there?

I'm guessing android has some kind of event handling, where every event is delivered to a list of programs that each decide if they want to do anything with the event or not, and maybe sense has programs registered all over the place to receive all kinds of events. This is wild speculation on my part as I'm not that familiar with how things really work, but when scrolling through apps in the app tray is slow, something besides simple resource consumption must be going on.

Anyway my general questions are: what makes it slow, and can 'it' be removed, whatever 'it' is.

I don't know where u got the idea that the evo 3d us slow..must of been in a gs2 forum..I happen to enjoy sense..and once you root you can
remove any bs..I have an evo 4g and have no lag whatsoever..don't listen to the evo 3d haters..everyone takes shots at the best

Sense is a skin.

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Originally Posted by novanosis85

Sense is a skin.

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It's more than a skin. If it was just a skin many things that only work on ASOP would work on Sense too.

Originally Posted by donatom3

It's more than a skin. If it was just a skin many things that only work on ASOP would work on Sense too.

sense has skins...

Originally Posted by donatom3

It's more than a skin. If it was just a skin many things that only work on ASOP would work on Sense too.

Oh right. Sense is a launcher that is stunning.

CM7 comes with ADW WHICH is a launcher that is not sexy.

So pick one.

1.Sexy Sense
2. Ugly betty.

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Originally Posted by novanosis85

Oh right. Sense is a launcher that is stunning.

CM7 comes with ADW WHICH is a launcher that is not sexy.

So pick one.

1.Sexy Sense
2. Ugly betty.

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Adw is highly customizable. How can you say it's ugly? SMH

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Ugly betty lol..I've always use sense Roms but after hearing about cm7 being so great o gave it a shot..I didn't like it at all and I didn't notice a.speed increase comings from kings unleashed..I thought it was plain..maybe I just didn't put enough time.into figuring it out...but I do enjoy sense UI..even if it is a large file

Originally Posted by novanosis85

Oh right. Sense is a launcher that is stunning.

CM7 comes with ADW WHICH is a launcher that is not sexy.

So pick one.

1.Sexy Sense
2. Ugly betty.

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You do know the bluetooth stack in sense doesn't let you use things like wiimote, or bluetooth mouse? Those are some of the things I was referring to. Sense is more than a launcher and skin. It is a UI framework that does affect some core Android functions.

EDIT: BTW I never meant to start a war of Sense vs ASOP, I was just pointing out the misinformation that Sense is a skin, when it's more than skin deep.

Originally Posted by firmbiz94

Ugly betty lol..I've always use sense Roms but after hearing about cm7 being so great o gave it a shot..I didn't like it at all and I didn't notice a.speed increase comings from kings unleashed..I thought it was plain..maybe I just didn't put enough time.into figuring it out...but I do enjoy sense UI..even if it is a large file

Me too, always thought CM was over rated, I mean no disrespect, but Sense UI is hands down the best for Android.

Vanilla / stock Android feels like its still on 1.5 release. The dialer and contacts and e-mail all feel lacking something.


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