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Technical reason for not upgrading to gingerbread if you want s-off?

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9th July 2011, 01:56 AM   |  #1  
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OK, so we all know that if you upgrade to gingerbread OTA you'll lose the ability to s-off with alpharevx.

What we also know is that there will be a lot of people, myself included, who will begin visibly twitching when gingerbread is available and s-off isn't. i mean, here's this sexy update, full of tweaks, and we can't touch the sweet sweet goodness...

So here's my question - why? What is the technical reason behind it, and where did it come from? Did it come from alpharevx? Is it a real limitation, or is it one of those things we all "know" but isn't actually true? There's gonna be a lot of people who flash GB thinking "eh, there will be a fix for this too." On the surface of it, you gotta think there will be - new dinc2's will come with GB preinstalled at some point soon - what about those guys? xtc clip only?
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well yea you can get a small fix now, and be stuck. or use the XTC clip and have goodies like this
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CM7 is awesome as well. not too mention once root is around for more people, they will build some awesome ROMs. much more awesome than stock.
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oh, i'm not going to be touching it, but i know many many people will.
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to each their own. I thought of selling my inc2 before root. I'd rather pay $100 for root now than use a Thunderbolt. anyday.
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i had used used xtc clip to get S-OFF , i am not sure if running the OTA GB update i will get a S-ON .
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i had used used xtc clip to get S-OFF , i am not sure if running the OTA GB update i will get a S-ON .

no it wont, nothing will..
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well, both GB and S-OFF have been labelled as 'coming soon' recently. supposedly GB will start to become available this monday. as for S-OFF, its still TBA. I guess it just depends on you. I used to have an HTC HD2 and the best thing I ever did for it was load custom ROMs.
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i've got zero interest in the thunderbolt. i think this is the best phone on VZ, right now. i'd much rather run CM7 or another rom five minutes after alpha is released than have GB now and then have to potentially wait longer.

i'm on the alpharev chat now, and it sounds like the reason is the exploit being used requires froyo - it's patched in gingerbread. i get the sense that if this were 2.3.4, we could use gingerbreak, but in 2.3.3, it's not gonna fly.
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i've got zero interest in the thunderbolt. i think this is the best phone on VZ, right now. i'd much rather run CM7 or another rom five minutes after alpha is released than have GB now and then have to potentially wait longer.

i'm on the alpharev chat now, and it sounds like the reason is the exploit being used requires froyo - it's patched in gingerbread. i get the sense that if this were 2.3.4, we could use gingerbreak, but in 2.3.3, it's not gonna fly.

From what I understand 2.3.4 wouldn't help make gingerbreak possible since the exploit used by gingerbreak was explicitly patched already in RUU's that have leaked. If they've got it patched in 2.3.3 there's no reason it wouldn't also be patched in 2.3.4. Once security holes are found (and bottom line, yes, gingerbreak is a security hole) and patched they aren't re-opened on purpose.

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