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27th March 2012, 05:43 PM   |  #1421  
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Hi larma, perhaps LarsPT can check the weather, or send an email, or send a WhatsApp message to a friend for free on his HD camcorder? No? I didn't think so.

Any idiot can buy a HD camcorder, but it doesn't mean you are Martin Scorsese. Give our phone to Mr. Scorsese, and I guarantee he will make a better movie than LarsPT and his HD camcorder.

Just a thought. Anil

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't make a movie with the wonderful photography of his latest movie 'Hugo' though! This is where you fail to understand that even if two different devices (an HD camcorder and a mobile phone for example) can record at the same resolution (1080p for example) this doesn't mean, not even close, that they will have the same picture quality.

And buddy, I can check the weather, send an email and send a WhatsApp message just fine with my Tegra device, without the HD recording

And I can still record videos with the same crappy quality, HD or not, with it. If I really want image quality, I use a proper device for it.

The difference between the "idiot" that buys the HD camcorder is that he can see past the marketing BS. He understands that megapixels aren't everything. He understands that an 8 Megapixel camera in a phone is nowhere near an 8 Megapixel Canon SLR, for example.
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27th March 2012, 09:35 PM   |  #1422  
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Exactly! So what is the point?

It was said that O2X buyers don't have HD recording because of nVidia. Well, whatever you say no mobile phone has HD recording, if you ask me. What's the point of having a resolution of 1080p if the quality of the pixels are utter crap? I'd rather have 480p with acceptable quality than the 1080p of a mobile phone, so that argument is completely not valid for me.

So what's the point?

Non-nVidia phones are better because they have HD recording? Puleez... If you want to make an HD video don't use your mobile phone period, get a proper camera. Unless having a video with a lot of horrible quality pixels floats your boat...

I thought the point was pretty obvious. You take your mobile everywhere. If it's supposed to have "HD recording", then the feature should work. It's that simple and I can't understand how anyone can refute that. I don't care if it doesn't hold up to camcorders, it's not supposed to. It's just supposed to work when I see something I want to capture.
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27th March 2012, 11:31 PM   |  #1423  
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I thought the point was pretty obvious. You take your mobile everywhere. If it's supposed to have "HD recording", then the feature should work. It's that simple and I can't understand how anyone can refute that. I don't care if it doesn't hold up to camcorders, it's not supposed to. It's just supposed to work when I see something I want to capture.

Very well larma. With what you say I can agree. However, when you buy an O2X everything that it's supposed to work with the stock ROM works as advertised. Well, at least for my case it did. Nevermind people who got a faulty equipment.

Now, when you flash a custom ROM, you are aware things might be broken. It's your problem, it's not nVidia's problem. Our friend Anil here seems to believe that it is. And for that reason, he also states that nVidia sucks.

He gave no explanation whatsoever as to why he has that opinion, but since we are talking about ICS not having hardware acceleration in our device because it is Tegra powered, I'm thinking it is because they don't release their code. Hence I jokingly said that, in that case, apple must suck as bad, as everything in apple is proprietary.

Mister Anil went on to defend apple products, or so it seemed, by saying everything works as expected (as in my LG stock product) and people are not expecting for updates or whatever (as I was not in my stock O2X, since everything worked as expected).

So I end up still not getting the point.

Yes, a lot of people still are flashing ICS on their O2X's, even though they lose HD recording. Why? Because HD recording was probably not there to begin with. For you HD recording might be making a video with a very crappy 1080p resolution, but for those people that knowingly accept this compromise HD recording might be something that is not something they do with their mobile phone, so they have nothing to lose.
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28th March 2012, 12:29 AM   |  #1424  
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my LG stock product wouldnt turn on so I flashed cyanogenmod.

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28th March 2012, 01:31 AM   |  #1425  
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lars/larma> You also have to consider that what is important to you, isn't what is important for everyone. If anil wants the HD recording, it would be great to have it, it's a major feature of the phone regardless of whether you guys consider it crap or not. His annoyance is just misdirected, give him some grace in that respect.

Now, back on topic eh? ;)
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28th March 2012, 10:01 AM   |  #1426  
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Absolutely Scougar!

And we are more or less hovering around topic, since HD recording is one of the (or pretty much the only one?) features that are broken in the ports of ICS on our phone so far.

Let's remember how this started again. Our friend user Optimus-ICS said, shortly, that his phone had never been greater than now [with ICS], he was really impressed with ICS, once every [android] phone had ICS the iPhone wouldn't stand a chance.

To this Mister Anil replied, in a bit of a rude manner if you ask me, "LMAO. Really? Do you really believe your own comment?"

Well, I, for one, believe it. I think Google has done a great job with ICS, it's an amazing operative system and I believe everyone should be looking forward to it.

And Mister Anil went on to defend apple by saying "At least iOS users aren't wondering if and when the next update comes, whether or not whey will get it for their device."

Of course they aren't... because apple has ceased inovating on that. The difference from iPhone 3 to the 4th generation was basically hardware, the software changes were mere marketing stunts and pretty much offensive to the savvy user (Facetime?! Really??)

So, in the end, for me the point here is that ICS really is an impressive achievement by Google. I am really glad we are already getting a glimpse of it in our O2X's. Unfortunately because of nVidia's policy we still have some broken features but for some these broken features aren't important and they're already enjoying ICS.
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28th March 2012, 11:18 AM   |  #1427  
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So, in the end, for me the point here is that ICS really is an impressive achievement by Google. I am really glad we are already getting a glimpse of it in our O2X's. Unfortunately because of nVidia's policy we still have some broken features but for some these broken features aren't important and they're already enjoying ICS.

Agreed 100 %. I was using ICS for a while and it is far superior if not for those few broken features which is why I had to go back to GB. Sure it would be nice to be able to use ICS now but it's like they say, good things come to those who wait.
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What is the reason for the video recording not working?! Is it something with nVidia?
28th March 2012, 07:09 PM   |  #1429  
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What is the reason for the video recording not working?! Is it something with nVidia?

Jepp, nvidia hasn't release the necessary source code.

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28th March 2012, 07:15 PM   |  #1430  
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That's not really the point though and the same argument could be made for GPS, music player and pretty much every other feature that doesn't include texting or calling. I'm sure you don't take your camcorder everywhere. I'm not a big camcorder guy but I would like to have the opportunity to use it when I need to.

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Absolutely Scougar!

And we are more or less hovering around topic, since HD recording is one of the (or pretty much the only one?) features that are broken in the ports of ICS on our phone so far.

Let's remember how this started again. Our friend user Optimus-ICS said, shortly, that his phone had never been greater than now [with ICS], he was really impressed with ICS, once every [android] phone had ICS the iPhone wouldn't stand a chance.

To this Mister Anil replied, in a bit of a rude manner if you ask me, "LMAO. Really? Do you really believe your own comment?"

Well, I, for one, believe it. I think Google has done a great job with ICS, it's an amazing operative system and I believe everyone should be looking forward to it.

And Mister Anil went on to defend apple by saying "At least iOS users aren't wondering if and when the next update comes, whether or not whey will get it for their device."

Of course they aren't... because apple has ceased inovating on that. The difference from iPhone 3 to the 4th generation was basically hardware, the software changes were mere marketing stunts and pretty much offensive to the savvy user (Facetime?! Really??)

So, in the end, for me the point here is that ICS really is an impressive achievement by Google. I am really glad we are already getting a glimpse of it in our O2X's. Unfortunately because of nVidia's policy we still have some broken features but for some these broken features aren't important and they're already enjoying ICS.

My apologies if I offended you with my opinion.

Have fun. Mr. Solanki

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