[Q] perm root w/o S-OFF, possible??

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I do not currently have a solution, just posting my question/idea (that i'm sure someone thought of already but just in case).

Has anyone looked into trying to disable whatever it is that's causing our temp root to stop working after 5 minutes.

I disabled some of the automatic system services that start up, and was able to with the temp root method. Using apps such as "Autostarts (paid)" and "Gemini App Manager" I disabled all the VZW bloat and then some, but still lose root shortly after applying the process. I was wondering if it's possible to find a process (if that's what's causing us to lose root) to disable to allow perm root?

There are a lot of auto-start processes, though I did disable a lot of them, I'm not sure what they all do so I was just guessing. I'm not trying to brick my phone, so if it's not possible to get perm root this way, I'd like to know if I'm wasting my time . If any devs have knowledge or experience with this please feel free to chime in . Thank you.

Not sure about all that, but I was wondering about that whole HTC sponsored root process... whatever happened with that? They promised an official way to root their phones not long back.

Originally Posted by Marine6680

Not sure about all that, but I was wondering about that whole HTC sponsored root process... whatever happened with that? They promised an official way to root their phones not long back.

They did, but the carrier has the final say. Verizon, wanting to be in control of everything, obviously said no.

I am sure there is a way to game the system and get it working... Internally these phones are basically the same when they use the same SOC.

Originally Posted by Marine6680

I am sure there is a way to game the system and get it working... Internally these phones are basically the same when they use the same SOC.

True but when htc patches a know exploit, a new one needs to be found. It's takes much skill and time to accomplish that LOL....so

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True... tricking the unlocker to think a phone is a different model is the hard part. Probably best to just hack in anyway.

Wish HTC would be tricky and leave a deliberate backdoor for us with a wink followed by inattentive gaze. Wishful thinking I know...

Of course for security reasons said door would need to be made so that physical access to the device and a computer would be required. Thats the hard bit right there.

As it stands I will probably be picking one of these up on the Amazon penny sale. Unless I choose to go sprint and then get the Galaxy S 2... (more of a fan of HTC devices though so who knows) Dropping t-mobile possibly... unless they give me a darn good reason not to.

Originally Posted by Marine6680

True... tricking the unlocker to think a phone is a different model is the hard part. Probably best to just hack in anyway.

Wish HTC would be tricky and leave a deliberate backdoor for us with a wink followed by inattentive gaze. Wishful thinking I know...

Of course for security reasons said door would need to be made so that physical access to the device and a computer would be required. Thats the hard bit right there.

As it stands I will probably be picking one of these up on the Amazon penny sale. Unless I choose to go sprint and then get the Galaxy S 2... (more of a fan of HTC devices though so who knows) Dropping t-mobile possibly... unless they give me a darn good reason not to.

Haha, I've often wondered that too. If HTC really is trying to be DEV friendly, but they have to pander to Verizon as well, why keep patching the holes? Why not just leave a hidden backdoor that's not too easy to find, but that a skilled DEV would know where to look?

Originally Posted by dawynkoop

Haha, I've often wondered that too. If HTC really is trying to be DEV friendly, but they have to pander to Verizon as well, why keep patching the holes? Why not just leave a hidden backdoor that's not too easy to find, but that a skilled DEV would know where to look?

So they don't get sued by Verizon. Also they would be losing one of the major carriers of their phones.

There is always a way in, look how many people have bootlegged version of everything.

Originally Posted by zetsumeikuro

So they don't get sued by Verizon. Also they would be losing one of the major carriers of their phones.

I highly doubt Verizon would have any clue about anything to do with where the code is placed to "patch" a bootloader. Their degree of any form of coding expertise when it comes to these things seems minimal at best.