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The glide was rooted a few days after its release, a few months ago and the development of ROMs, etc has been stagnant. CWM was made available for the Glide this last sunday (I believe) and there are already 2 ROMs available. The lesson here?

Rooting does not dictate devolpment, Clockwork does.
 
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The glide was rooted a few days after its release, a few months ago and the development of ROMs, etc has been stagnant. CWM was made available for the Glide this last sunday (I believe) and there are already 2 ROMs available. The lesson here?

Rooting does not dictate development, Clockwork does.
I agree. CWM provides a safety net to Devs and makes things a lot easier do.
 
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I was an early adopter of the Backflip and development for that phone seemed to take forever. Then my lady got a Captivate(and got me one later) and by that time it seemed like there was so much going on it was impossible to keep up. It's very exciting that development for this device has started so early in its life cycle, and it's really neat to be witnessing it from the ground floor.

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The glide was rooted a few days after its release, a few months ago and the development of ROMs, etc has been stagnant. CWM was made available for the Glide this last sunday (I believe) and there are already 2 ROMs available. The lesson here?

Rooting does not dictate devolpment, Clockwork does.
True, but of course, no CWM without root...

The real lesson is that manufacturers should remember who the customers are: consumers. Not hollywood. I'm looking at you, Motorola...

Locked boot loaders and anti-root provisions are a scourge on the mobile industry.
 
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Locked boot loaders and anti-root provisions are a scourge on the mobile industry.
I agree that locked bootloaders are a pain, but manufacturers are looking to improve the customer experience; unfortunately, that includes protecting idiots from themselves.

Example: Customer goes in and buys the shiny new phone, comes home and tries installing CM7 on his (unlocked bootloader) phone using the update.zip found on XDA for a different device. Obviously the phone bricks and the customer takes it back to the store where he finds out that he voided the warranty and will not be provided a replacement.

The customer's take away? "I hate XYZ carrier and ABC manufacturer sucks"

Companies spend millions on UX and in the grand scheme of things, locking the bootloader is a pretty inexpensive way to avoid the above situation.

At the end of the day, most stores have a 30 day return policy, so buy the phone you want and if there's no root in 29 1/2 days, return it for one without known bootloader locks.
 
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I agree that locked bootloaders are a pain, but manufacturers are looking to improve the customer experience; unfortunately, that includes protecting idiots from themselves.

Example: Customer goes in and buys the shiny new phone, comes home and tries installing CM7 on his (unlocked bootloader) phone using the update.zip found on XDA for a different device. Obviously the phone bricks and the customer takes it back to the store where he finds out that he voided the warranty and will not be provided a replacement.

The customer's take away? "I hate XYZ carrier and ABC manufacturer sucks"

Companies spend millions on UX and in the grand scheme of things, locking the bootloader is a pretty inexpensive way to avoid the above situation.

At the end of the day, most stores have a 30 day return policy, so buy the phone you want and if there's no root in 29 1/2 days, return it for one without known bootloader locks.
Sorry man.. I just disagree 100%. I honestly believe that the number of people who brick their phones and try to return them show up on financial reports as statistical noise. It simply isn't a valid argument for a decision about anything.

They lock the phones at the request of content providers to prevent people from exercising their fair use rights (where applicable), and to a lesser extent, to reduce piracy.

The copyright laws of many countries protect time & format shifting, for example. In Canada, it is legal to decrypt an encrypted (DRM'd) movie you've purchased, and copy it to your car's video player to watch it. With a movie purchased through iTunes on a locked iPhone, this is impossible.. which means, if you want the video in your car badly enough, you have to buy it twice.

Copyright law in Canada recognizes the right of resale. Some users may choose to decrypt their DRM'd media so that they can sell it when they're finished. Again, often impossible with locked devices.

Fair use enriches society, but (possibly) not the media companies. DRM is intended to steal from the public to increase media company revenue, but it's not reliable if end users have ultimate control over their devices. So they lobby for laws, and make backdoor deals with companies like Motorola.

The practice is despicable, and must stop.

Excuse the rant.
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