When the h*ll is this going to arrive in the USA?

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I just don't get the delays for the release of this tab in the USA. It's not like there market situation will be better AFTER the iPad3 comes out so what's the f'n hold up. I know I can import but that exposes you to support issues I'd rather not deal with.

So, when is Verizon going to actually have these for sale for Christ sake???


Brian

It will come to the US as soon as carriers disable enough features and bloat it up.

In the case of AT&T, they have the least amount of work to do, because the 7.7 is already fully compatible with their network. T-Mobile is half way there in that they're a GSM provider, but tweaks would have to be made for a 1700mhz AWS version of the 7.7

In the case of Sprint, Verizon, or any other CDMA carrier, Samsung basically has to rebuild the entire device from ground up and start from scratch to make it work.

As for support issues, you really don't have as much to worry about as you might think. For starters, with a device like a tablet or smartphone, fixing problems or issues you might have are 9 times out of 10 going to be a case of, the manufacturer backing up and moving your data from the faulty device over to a brand new one, as opposed to actually opening it up and "fixing" the problem.

Also, depending on who you buy/import from, those sellers usually help with facilitating any warranty claims you might make, assuming your warranty claim can't be fulfilled domestically by the manufacturer in the first place.

Finally, if you really that worried about it, you can always purchase 3rd party insurance for your device. For instance, for about ~$70 - $80 for 1 year, you can protect your device with a policy, from something like SafeWare, that covers everything from theft, accidental damage, cracked screens, etc.

Well I can see two different hardware platforms depending on carrier but the LTE version earmarked for Verizon has already been demo'd at CES so we know Verizon is getting it. I just don't get why Samsung in particular has such a problem in getting to market. They announced this tab in September but there is still nothing about a release date in the USA.

I've asked this before but got no response -- supposedly, the LTE version also has the Eynos uP but since the Note in LTE could not use the Exynos I have some concern that the LTE version of the tab may not actually use the Exynos -- can anyone confirm the uP in the LTE (Verizon) version...

I ordered a 750GB notebook HD and a 64GB uSDXC flash card last night so I hope the Sammy tab is available soon. The HD is for my laptop whoes 500GB drive is almost filled.


Brian

Speculation is that the Verizon version will have a Qualcom Snapdragon processer of similar specs to the Exnos that will play nice with LTE.

For people like me - who would never buy anything from Verizon, and would not buy a CDMA device on general principles, I would love a United States distributor for the GSM and WIFI versions.

I'm hoping the reason for the delay with the previously announced Verizon version is that they've decided to launch it with ICS. It would kind of make sense to release it with ICS so it could be advertised as Verizon's first ICS tablet. Not to mention, many of reviews of the 3.2 version of the tablet have cited that it just seems slow, like the majority of honeycomb tablets.

I really think ICS is the cure for people not happy with the performance of honeycomb tablets. I for one was disappointed with the galaxy tab 7 plus which definitely had the specs to be able to run honeycomb. But, even with an exynos processor, it had lag that just shouldn't be there. I think honeycomb was never polished enough to make things run the way they should on such a powerful processor.

Lets hope the 7.7 comes to Verizon soon with ICS. If it does, I'll be buying it immediately. If it releases with 3.2, I will buy to test, but if the performance is similar to the 7.0+, I'll be returning it. Honeycomb just seems to bog down tablets, even if their specs should theoretically perform outstandingly.

Originally Posted by rmm200

For people like me - who would never buy anything from Verizon, and would not buy a CDMA device on general principles, I would love a United States distributor for the GSM and WIFI versions.

At last, somebody with my beliefs! LOL.

Kidding aside, I agree though. I dislike CDMA with a passion. Contracts even more so. I'm just really glad Negri Electronics is selling the international version and I was fortunate enough to have a GT 8.9 to sell to foot the full retail price.

I really wish it could be available through BB, Amazon, GSM vendors, and others soon.

Originally Posted by maretus

I'm hoping the reason for the delay with the previously announced Verizon version is that they've decided to launch it with ICS. It would kind of make sense to release it with ICS so it could be advertised as Verizon's first ICS tablet. Not to mention, many of reviews of the 3.2 version of the tablet have cited that it just seems slow, like the majority of honeycomb tablets.

I really think ICS is the cure for people not happy with the performance of honeycomb tablets. I for one was disappointed with the galaxy tab 7 plus which definitely had the specs to be able to run honeycomb. But, even with an exynos processor, it had lag that just shouldn't be there. I think honeycomb was never polished enough to make things run the way they should on such a powerful processor.

Lets hope the 7.7 comes to Verizon soon with ICS. If it does, I'll be buying it immediately. If it releases with 3.2, I will buy to test, but if the performance is similar to the 7.0+, I'll be returning it. Honeycomb just seems to bog down tablets, even if their specs should theoretically perform outstandingly.

Firstly, I doubt that ICS is the main cause for the wait on VZW's 7.7. As I mentioned above, I think it's probably a lot more likely that Samsung essentially has to build, from scratch, a whole new custom device, just for Verizon, and in high enough numbers, that it will be marketable enough to American suckers, who don't mind locking themselves into overpriced, under featured, 2-year contracts with expensive ETF's, and all who are willing to tolerate a gimped version of original (I'm talking about the nixed phone functionality here), so they're effectively forced into buying two devices to fill two roles, and pay two line subscriptions instead one (or pay a stupid, greedy, artificial fee to tether, if not paying for two separate lines). Join that crowd? Hell no! No thank you!

Let's not forget too, that building these devices in large quantities takes time, and this special order for Verizon, on top of demand from the rest of the world for the WiFi and unlocked 3G versions, is probably your main source for delay.

Finally, yes, Honeycomb is not the best iteration of Android to date. Yes, things will invariably be better with ICS. However, Honeycomb is MUCH better than, say, Gingerbread. I mean, since 3.2 (which is what we have here), GPU accelerated UI comes natively right out of the box, just like it will with ICS.

Honestly, the real culprit here isn't Honeycomb itself, but rather TouchWiz on Honeycomb.

Have you tried any home launchers other than TouchWiz yet? No? Then quit your whining about lag, because apparently you're too lazy to even try doing one of the easiest things you can do to alleviate the real problem. And yet you're probably going to jump onto updating to ICS the second it's available (a much more involved process than changing your launcher I might add)

Seriously, throw ADW EX on your 7.7, and watch it take off like a Saturn V rocket!


To sum up, import an unlocked 7.7 instead of waiting. Get the WiFi version if you don't need it for a phone. If you like the phone idea, get that version and use it on a GSM network here. Get a cheap pay as you go plan or something, or if you're already a (preferably AT&T, for fully compatibility reasons) GSM subscriber, continue to use your existing plan. If you want LTE speeds, tether to your LTE device. And finally, you can protect your device with a 3rd party insurance policy from somewhere like SafeWare. I just called them, and they confirmed that they can cover the imported 7.7 for a little more than $50 per year, and that covers everything from theft, damage, lost device, etc. Everything. So don't talk to me about warranty issues anymore, I have just invalidated that argument.

Choice is a good thing for consumers. It's a bad thing that American consumers allow big carriers to dictate what we can and cannot buy domestically.

The rumor launch date on Verizon is February 23. And If i was betting man its going to launch with Honeycomb 3.2

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Remember the one big difference is the Verizon version WILL NOT have phone capabilities. For me that was a deal breaker.

If anyone is worried about warranty. I purchased a 2 year plan WITH accidental damage through SquareTrade for $90.

Originally Posted by Jade Eyed Wolf;Honestly, the real culprit here isn't Honeycomb itself, but rather TouchWiz on Honeycomb.

Seriously, throw ADW EX on your 7.7, and watch it take off like a Saturn V rocket!

Choice is a good thing for consumers. It's a bad thing that American consumers allow big carriers to dictate what we can and cannot buy domestically.

Honeycomb is laggy touch wiz or not. I've owned a xoom from the beginning and while it's much better with 3.2 than it was at 3.0, it still is quite slow. The 7.7 is no doubt faster without TW but I know for a fact honeycomb is still slow and I don't think any amount of hardware or different launchers is going to fix some of its issues. I really like 7.7, I just want it to be lag free completely and thus far I haven't seen a honeycomb device without lag.

And while I'm not a big fan of Verizon, I certainly don't want an 8 inch phone anyways and trading that off for LTE is a plus in my book.