This man, has somewhat of a point...

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http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comm...ean_in/c3ruc2t

He has half a point made less important and taken less seriously by the inability to express it coherantly. The language he uses seems to me that he has more of a grudge than anything. His post is one of pure anger. I agree things could be done better. I've mentioned the use of github for ICS joint development many times but it never really happened.

That said, I have learned a lot here. I have always felt I have managed to get the help I need in a thread for a particular ROM... IF there is an answer and I have also been able to give the help needed. There is nothing wrong with "one-man-operations". Most the "****" people do here has already been done so its not like it needs to be documented and made available in every ROM.

Yes its chaos, but its our chaos and we understand it. I guess he never made it to 10 posts.

That guy is a moron.

Where to begin.

1. XDA is not a software company, it is, in fact, a forum. So to attack its "forum like organization"...just sounds stupid. It's like saying "look at that freaking tea kettle, brewing tea, how dare it!" This wasn't set up, intended for or was ever thought to be a business-type, engineering/programming atmosphere. It's a chill spot, like a beach, for nerds who love their smartphones. It's 2012, grow the hell up.

2. XDA is driven by user generated content, not by employees. ROMs, kernels, tweaks, mods, themes, etc are done by people like teachers, writers, auto mechanics, etc etc. It's a hobby for us. To give them crap for not following proper programming documentation is simply wrong (although everyone who releases a kernel must follow the rules of the GPL, that's a given). These people aren't engineers and don't have degrees in this stuff (well, most don't :P ), they're hobbyists. To attack them is to attack the spirit of XDA: which is caring, sharing and enjoying yourself. This is not a business, to assume that it should be run like one is asinine.

This guy is a dirtbag and a blowhard. This is a giant, dysfunctional, international family of people who just happen to love their smartphones. We tweak things as we like them, release them for whoever wants to try them and just hang out and discuss stuff. That guy is the next door neighbor who hates loud music and hot chicks doing keg stands on his lawn.

Ignore him, he's just angry because things aren't exactly to his specifications and he wants a rise out of everyone. He's what the interwebz calls a "troll".

Originally Posted by rootSU

The language he uses seems to me that he has more of a grudge than anything. His post is one of pure anger.

Agree Completely

That said, I have learned a lot here.

Agree more so than anything +infinity

Yes its chaos, but its our chaos and we understand it. I guess he never made it to 10 posts.

+1 on that, I know exactly what everything means

Originally Posted by PoorCollegeGuy

That guy is a moron.

Where to begin.

1. XDA is not a software company, it is, in fact, a forum. So to attack its "forum like organization"...just sounds stupid. It's like saying "look at that freaking tea kettle, brewing tea, how dare it!"

lol

This wasn't set up, intended for or was ever thought to be a business-type, engineering/programming atmosphere. It's a chill spot, like a beach, for nerds who love their smartphones. It's 2012, grow the hell up.

2. XDA is driven by user generated content, not by employees. ROMs, kernels, tweaks, mods, themes, etc are done by people like teachers, writers, auto mechanics, etc etc. It's a hobby for us. To give them crap for not following proper programming documentation is simply wrong (although everyone who releases a kernel must follow the rules of the GPL, that's a given). These people aren't engineers and don't have degrees in this stuff (well, most don't :P ), they're hobbyists. To attack them is to attack the spirit of XDA: which is caring, sharing and enjoying yourself. This is not a business, to assume that it should be run like one is asinine.

This guy is a dirtbag and a blowhard. This is a giant, dysfunctional, international family of people who just happen to love their smartphones. We tweak things as we like them, release them for whoever wants to try them and just hang out and discuss stuff. That guy is the next door neighbor who hates loud music and hot chicks doing keg stands on his lawn.

Ignore him, he's just angry because things aren't exactly to his specifications and he wants a rise out of everyone. He's what the interwebz calls a "troll".

It's nice to see views from a different perspective, it sort of made sense reading that (and ofcourse it did perfectly to him), since it wasn't taking into account what xda is and always has been.

Correct me if I'm wrong but CyanogenMod started out as a one man project right? It gotten so big that it really needs the documentation, traceability, bug tracking, in other words the "system" that he spoke of. So there... funny.

I saw this posted on some other ROM site that was once an active member here on XDA, as expected they agree with what was posted.

I think what he was complaining about is that there is no formal place for developers to go, create, document and update their projects - and just used xda as somewhere where he could aim his rant since it's the place to go if you want something for your android phone.

That being said, it'd be nice to see cooperation as seen with the CM team, things would probably get done a lot faster and more efficiently, as for people starting their own projects and turning them into "donate to me" buttons.. if that's all you want then how about making an account for the donations and spreading it evenly between the team.