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Well there was a lot of friction going on on both Windows 7 forums and Windows 8 forums due to my posts about Windows 8. When I said we should write to our President and Prime Ministers and go to the European Court Of Human Rights asking them to ban Windows 8. I don't think they liked it. And a lot of members did complain about me.

One of the other members who got banned 2 days ago before me got banned because he wrote-


And they banned him for that on Tuesday this week,but unbanned him on Thursday. But banned him for life a few hours later along with another member when he started a thread about his ban and made more bad comments about me.So they banned him and his friend another member.

Then the admin told me that the banned member had started his own forum and was using the site and me as the scapegoat to get 50 other members to join his forum.

I think that when I posted on the same thread after the admin told me this it slipped out in my post by accident.When on that thread they were talking about the banned member. And I said he wanted to use me as the scapegoat to get members over to his forum. And I could have got banned for that. But I don't know.

But my ban message was-



So as far as those two forums go it looks like I am out of there. Andrea Borman.
I do however think that trying to get Windows 8 banned is a little ridiculous, It would be the same as trying to fight innovation and progress with a gigantic stick that says "Old Fashioned" on it, personally, I, as well as half my family, find Metro to be rather aesthetically pleasing and more simple to use. As for whatever happened on those other two forums, please try to keep it out of here, it's not really that relevant although from what I see on your Visitor Messages, one of the Administrators had warned you against constantly restating your arguing points like you were doing just a little while ago. Either way, Your here, not there sooo.....

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you don't get banned without good reason, I suspect it was because you keep repeating the same thing with very little understanding what it is you are talking about.

I personally was skeptical of windows 8 Metro when it came out, but after putting the effort in to using it and providing constructive feedback to MS over the issues ive identified I am now happy to say I really like it. There is a lot of FUD out there to do with Win 8 an from what I can tell you are just regurgitating that same FUD without actually using it.

I strongly suggest you read back through these comments over the last few pages and if you are up for the challenge try windows 8 WITH metro for a longer period of time WITHOUT your preconceived opinions of it being crap.

I can promise you this, if you keep saying things like Win 8 Nightmare preview you will gain no respect and MS will not listen, if you use the OS, feedback your CONSTRUCTIVE comments to them once you have got a handle of how it works MS is much more likely to listen, why? because if you do this I can also promise you that you will not be alone in those opinions. But you cant be blinkered to the Metro / Start menu issue, you have to think like a tester be open minded and ask for support (and we will give it here) because that is what YOU asked to be remember. If you cant do those things, if you cant be willing to learn the OS in its current form then there is no point you trying it.

And yes, using your name as a login detail is rather daft, I could if I could be bothered tie you to all sorts of things including your location, it took a whole 30 seconds to find your previous posts in other forums and your various FB details / page.

If you want the help then put in the effort, if not (and from what ive read I don't think you will change) don't use it and more importantly don't spread yet more FUD about it based on your inaccurate opinions.

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Because 200 people signing an online petition will get Microsoft to change the way their OS functions.

I'm sorry but you guys must be new here, online petitions rarely/never work. Not to mention it's Microsoft, the only people they care about are themselves and the OEM's.
Not so my friend, that is the reason for the public beta, because many people will use it for what it is intended for, testing. There's more feedback links in this OS than on any other CP ive used, if there is a consistent trend in that feedback MS will be much more willing to listen IF people use the feedback option constructively. But yes the petition is completely useless

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Also dazza9075, Technically, if you count Android (as it runs on top of a Linux Kernel), the Market Share for Linux is probably a little above <5%
ha! your right, But its hard to call them the same OS given that Android has embraced (in my opinion) changes that Linux desktop should have done years ago
 
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I do however think that trying to get Windows 8 banned is a little ridiculous, It would be the same as trying to fight innovation and progress with a gigantic stick that says "Old Fashioned" on it, personally, I, as well as half my family, find Metro to be rather aesthetically pleasing and more simple to use. As for whatever happened on those other two forums, please try to keep it out of here, it's not really that relevant although from what I see on your Visitor Messages, one of the Administrators had warned you against constantly restating your arguing points like you were doing just a little while ago. Either way, Your here, not there sooo.....

Welcome to XDA, I'm rather new here too if you can't tell lol. May we all work in the pursuit of knowledge together
Well you can read the thread for yourself on Windows 8 Forums and you will see how silly it all is to ban me. Here-http://windows8forums.com/windows-8-beta-builds-leaks/4848-consumer-preview-download-8.html


This was just one of my many posts about how I feel about Windows 8 CP. I said the same thing about Windows 8 DP, but that was better.

Also over on Neowin forums I got a private warning from one of the moderators about my posts about Windows 8. On this thread here-http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/10.../page__st__510

But there is nothing offensive in any of those posts. But Neowin forums are quite strict. After I got wrongly banned from Seven Forums a few months ago. I started a thread on there about it on Neowin forums. And they changed my thread from public view to private view. So no one but other members could read it. And then the moderator came along and locked the thread.

But the whole thing was silly as what was so offensive about me talking about my ban from Seven Forums that made them change my thread from public view to private view? And they locked the thread soon afterwards anyway. Which was also stupid because as it was made private view against my wishes.No one would see it anyway and search engines would not be able to index it.

Some forums just make something out of nothing. Andrea Borman.
 
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But the whole thing was silly as what was so offensive about me talking about my ban from Seven Forums that made them change my thread from public view to private view? And they locked the thread soon afterwards anyway. Which was also stupid because as it was made private view against my wishes.No one would see it anyway and search engines would not be able to index it.

Some forums just make something out of nothing. Andrea Borman.
if you want me to be honest, you were banned because you were being stupid.

You seem to have a need to spread your inaccurate opinions as far and wide as possible, forums FB etc! im not sure why you see it as you personal crusade to spread FUD to the masses but like yourself others out there will read what you wrote and believe it or not (as you have done your self) they will take that as the truth, when in your case that's simple not true

Listen to what im telling you, none of us what to see you banned or slated or whatever, all of us would be willing to guide you, but YOU NEED TO LISTEN AND LEARN! The community is for sharing, this site is built upon the principle of learning, what you are doing is preaching FUD as fact.

Now, first things first, read and understand these rules
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=341
Next, if you want to continue this conversation install win 8 again, be open minded and LISTEN, then make a new thread in a GENERAL sub forum, you will have no business in a developers forum

This thread has been well and truly hijacked and I think now is the time to move away before someone does it for us. If you want to learn win 8 post back here the link to the thread (don't call it Win 8 Nightmare or anything stupid!!) if you don't want to learn then lets leave this thread alone.

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Well dazza9075,it seems that you found out before I did that I was banned from Windows 8 Forums and Windows 7 Forums.

At first when you mentioned my ban from other forums I thought you meant Seven Forums. Because I made a video about it a few months ago. But it was only when I went back on the Windows 8 forums site and on Windows 7 Forums.And I saw "banned" under my user name that I found out.

But this time I was not the only one banned. As other members who were involved in the argument against me were also banned.

And another thing you are right about is that if you have been banned from other forums you should not really post under the same user name. As that could stop you being accepted from other forums. If they know you were banned from your last forum. But then I have done nothing criminal. So I have got nothing to hide.Andrea Borman.
 
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Well dazza9075,it seems that you found out before I did that I was banned from Windows 8 Forums and Windows 7 Forums.

At first when you mentioned my ban from other forums I thought you meant Seven Forums. Because I made a video about it a few months ago. But it was only when I went back on the Windows 8 forums site and on Windows 7 Forums.And I saw "banned" under my user name that I found out.

But this time I was not the only one banned. As other members who were involved in the argument against me were also banned.

And another thing you are right about is that if you have been banned from other forums you should not really post under the same user name. As that could stop you being accepted from other forums. If they know you were banned from your last forum. But then I have done nothing criminal. So I have got nothing to hide.Andrea Borman.
We're getting off topic people lol
Also can't help but that this conversation is best finished in its own thread or private message, it doesn't really seem too relevant except for dazza's points. Like I said earlier this is XDA, not seven forums not any other forums except XDA.
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Well however much I or anybody else moans about the Metro theme.We have no control over what a software maker does. If they want to make Windows 8 with the Metro theme only there is nothing we can do about it.

But I have made up my mind that if I did buy a new laptop in the future and it had Windows 8 on it. If i did not like it I would install windows 7 on it. You can do this if you have a full installation CD and you have never used the product key on any other computers.

But I have read that Microsoft are thinking of putting secure boot on new Windows 8 laptops. What does this mean? Does it mean that we won't be able to install Windows 7 or Linux on a Windows 8 laptop? Andrea Borman.
 
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All I can say about this petition is: **** NO.

If Metro is an option, it won't be supported, for the same reasons that Nintendo couldn't have had success with the Wii Remote if they'd just released it as an addon for Gamecube.

Metro MUST be the default, end of story. If it's not, then it simply withers and dies. By making it default, it'll have the support it needs to grow and mature. The desktop is ALREADY mature--it's everything it will ever be.

I'll take Metro front and center, HAPPILY.
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All I can say about this petition is: **** NO.

If Metro is an option, it won't be supported, for the same reasons that Nintendo couldn't have had success with the Wii Remote if they'd just released it as an addon for Gamecube.

Metro MUST be the default, end of story. If it's not, then it simply withers and dies. By making it default, it'll have the support it needs to grow and mature. The desktop is ALREADY mature--it's everything it will ever be.

I'll take Metro front and center, HAPPILY.
im inclined to agree, sometimes the hard thing is the right thing and I honestly think if people sat down with this for more than a few hours and used it they would soon come to like it. If I could just get my sound card drivers on my main PC to work id be using it exclusively alas I have to use HDMI pass through which isn't ideal and sounds terrible.
 
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im inclined to agree, sometimes the hard thing is the right thing and I honestly think if people sat down with this for more than a few hours and used it they would soon come to like it. If I could just get my sound card drivers on my main PC to work id be using it exclusively alas I have to use HDMI pass through which isn't ideal and sounds terrible.
The trouble I see primarily is that people are, frankly, lazy and stupid. If they spent a tenth the time they waste on bitching to actually LEARN something about the new UI, they'd master it like nobody's business and see what a terrific UI innovation it really is.

I'll be a day one adopter, both in hardware and software for Windows 8, and my Macbook and iPad are getting chucked into the past where they belong. There is no way I'll go back to using a stale, static icon-grid UI after getting used to Metro, even with a mouse and keyboard (which, by the way, I find to be lightning fast).

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