[Q] What's with the Amaze 4g ext_sd

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The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.

A lot of newer apps have a setting to store in ext_sd... if they don't, you're gonna have to move the stuff manually. Aside from editing the system files and changing the variables I don't think its going to be possible unless the app supports it. Sorry, just the way it is.

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I have over 100 apps and don't have that problem. None of them are on my ext_sd... Quite a few big apps too... I've seen a few ppl with the same prob, but I don't get why. Maybe it's because I don't have any music or movies on my phone...

I guess I will consider myself lucky :screwy:

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Originally Posted by hd2joel

The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.

it is a true sd card, its just internal and its separate from the phones internal memory. i wish there was a way to default to the external sd, but no dice

I notice your rooted and from the looks of your memory it looks like your phone is using the real sd card not the internal memorh. Im not rooted and mine looks opposite of yours i have like 7gigs free on my sd card and like 700mb of internal memory. I wounder if rooting fixes this issue and thats why more people dont seem to be having the issue.

Originally Posted by hd2joel

I notice your rooted and from the looks of your memory it looks like your phone is using the real sd card not the internal memorh. Im not rooted and mine looks opposite of yours i have like 7gigs free on my sd card and like 700mb of internal memory. I wounder if rooting fixes this issue and thats why more people dont seem to be having the issue.

It's using internal for downloads and everything on my external was placed there by me manually (except for my cwm backups - I have 3 cwm backups on my SD which is hogging most of the space. I deleted 1 BU and now have 2GB+ available on my external.

I don't know if rooting makes a difference. I mean I deleted some bloatware, but none of the stock apps are that big in size, and I only removed about 10 stock apps/widgets. I only ran my phone stock for about 4 hours so idk

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Originally Posted by hd2joel

The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.

The internal memory is much, much faster (test it with SD Tools or AnTuTu Benchmark), so I wouldn't be in a hurry to move things to /mnt/sd_card/ext_sd. So long as you have the camera and other apps storing on on the ext_sd card, the 9GB internal should be fine for data, right?

i love how forum responses are always anything but a response to what op asked.

this is standard behavior for devices that have their own internal (mounted on android as /sdcard) storage partitions. the point is that, if this is not done, the a device with a large internal storage sees no benefit of it other than have a ridiculously large /data partition (we'd have over 13gb for apps on the amaze 4g for example).
ics has a better way of dealing with this treating the whole internal storage (no partitioning anymore) but again, the internal storage takes priority over the sdcard.
in my opinion it's better. I hated android automatically making several directories on my sdcard, but I agree the media scanner still has a way to go including media in the sdcard.
your best option if you don't like the new setup is to get a device instead with no internal storage that relies instead on a microSD

No its not when all the new games need 700mb downloads and the only program that uses the real external sd card is the camera. I love the new games with console quality games that's why i got a phone with no battery life and a ton of horse power. It wasn't to send faster texts. But any app the has a check box to save to the sd card ends up using that internal space called sd card. So i have a full phone an empty "real" sd card and the only app the knows its there is the camera. I cant download my audio books unless i delete a game. I cant use that external space for anything but pictures. 16gb is a lot of space just for pictures. I get internal memory is faster i just wish other apps could use it. Not just the camera app. Its dumb to call that space sd card when every app thinks that space is an external sd card. No app looks for an ext_sd card. So your 32gig class 10 card you spenf $100 for cant be used for anything but pictures its a dumb programming move.

Originally Posted by jubeh

i love how forum responses are always anything but a response to what op asked.

this is standard behavior for devices that have their own internal (mounted on android as /sdcard) storage partitions. the point is that, if this is not done, the a device with a large internal storage sees no benefit of it other than have a ridiculously large /data partition (we'd have over 13gb for apps on the amaze 4g for example).
ics has a better way of dealing with this treating the whole internal storage (no partitioning anymore) but again, the internal storage takes priority over the sdcard.
in my opinion it's better. I hated android automatically making several directories on my sdcard, but I agree the media scanner still has a way to go including media in the sdcard.
your best option if you don't like the new setup is to get a device instead with no internal storage that relies instead on a microSD

Great answer if you don't like it get a phone with no internal memory brilliant! Why can't they just save the name sdcard for true external sdcards? The point of a ton of internal memory is to have a ton of internal memory so i dont get your point of no benefit. The benefit is i have 13 gigs for all these games that require almost a gig of space. I think thats why they started putting that much internal memory. With the new power of these phones the apps are getting huge. So put a lot of very fast internal storage space. And then you can use your real sdcard as you always have. Apps arnt 2mb any more. So 13gigs of app storage would be a great benefit in the day of gigabyte sized apps. SORRY FOR THE RANT IM DONE NOW. some people's kids just bother me with their logic.