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Default Something worth worrying about regarding the One X

Edit: its been reported that at&t is indeed blocking the unlock for their version of this device.

The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.

We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.

We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.

EDIT: Willyami found this, I'm happy to hear temp-root is already achieved. Yet the article still states we need bootloader unlock or S OFF for perm root...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/h...-retail-debut/
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/h...-retail-debut/

The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
 
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The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.

We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.

We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
Absolutely agree with you dude. As a result of so few devs over there, I still haven't unlocked and rooted my Vivid.

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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
 
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
Yeah, maybe for you. But this is a development site. we're here to develop and make the device as badass as possible. The phone will be enjoyed for sure. but enjoyed more with it rooted Running a CoreDroid Rom
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
 
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/h...-retail-debut/

The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.

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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
lol easier to talk the talk than walk the walk. I had the same mindset you did, but two/three months of the same old thing and same old sense really sucked. Try it if you don't believe me.
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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
 
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Unfortunately, that is only temp root. It is not a permanent root solution. This link is the exact method described in the article and its from this forums dev section.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1562470

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Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
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