Originally Posted by hatlesssandman

Just wondering what browser is everyone using? I seem to be having frequent crashes in stock browser and dolphin browser as well especially when I try playing flash but also when just trying to scroll down the page. Not sure if this is just me as I haven't seen any posts about this although I did read about chrome beta crashing but I'm not using that so...not sure if its a bug in the rom I'm on version 7.3.1 (latest).

Well, it's true for maxthon browser,which I really like,too. Compared to honeycomb before, there are a lot of crashes. By now I couldn't figure out why - but as you mention it, it could be Flash. Don't use the stock browser much, so cannot comment on that.

Your crashes are due to flash. If you change the plugin setting from always on to on demand the crashes will go away. Flash isn't something that's working in this ROM...I'm guessing something to do with the HW video acceleration. That being said, if you need to use flash I would recomend sticking with HC...I don't think you'll be able to get it to work very well at all in the current version of this port.

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I said it could be a reason but I'm not sure. So you're right. I forgot about that: flash is on demand (that's the default setting for flash in maxthon).
Nevertheless, maxthon crashes a lot more (and I really mean A LOT) compared to the time when I was running honeycomb.
Any other ideas?

Ive never heard of that browser before...are you sure that it is compatible with ICS?

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Jammaster that doesn't really make sense to me it is understandable for dolphin to crash according to ur theory (even though I do have flash on demand setting) but stock browser plays videos via video player not through flash but I have had that crash even more often than dolphin at one moment I will be scrolling reading the web page (mind u not watching flash) and the next my touch screen stops responding at which point I have to use the long press back button to kill browser and a couple of times it hung so badly that I had to kill it via power button and reboot (however that may be due to flash I will keep an eye out for that and post accordingly) but I don't find ur explanation as a viable merely due to the fact that half the time the flash works perfectly and half the time it doesn't and I'm taking about reloading the same websites that it previously crashed on....so if its an issue like hwa wouldn't it crash EVERY time I tried to play flash? Or every time on a particular website? However I have noticed it has improved drastically after installing 7.3.1 it was horrendous on 7.3 just wanting to squash a bug hence bringing up the issue. So no suggestions for a different browser? I'm going to try opera see how that goes

Originally Posted by hatlesssandman

Just wondering what browser is everyone using? I seem to be having frequent crashes in stock browser and dolphin browser as well especially when I try playing flash but also when just trying to scroll down the page. Not sure if this is just me as I haven't seen any posts about this although I did read about chrome beta crashing but I'm not using that so...not sure if its a bug in the rom I'm on version 7.3.1 (latest). Also obscure I saw u suggested apex launcher which is what I use on nexus one but when I downloaded for tablet it seems to be out of sorts I mean it doesn't seem to fit on screen properly not sure if there is a tablet version of the launcher?

I'm currently using Opera Mobile for my needs. Great tab support, flash only when clicked, and user agent always desktop. I'm also using Opera Mobile 12 Labs version that isn't available yet in the Play Store. There is more information about it via Opera's site, here. I never get crashes when using this browser and am loving the extensions. I can now use Adblock, Ghostery, & Lastpass in Android! These are my most beloved add-ons for browsers

As far as the launcher goes, Apex Launcher is by far the best and most feature filled IMHO. You have ICS on your N1? I use it on my Nexus S with AOKP and have no issues between my two devices. It looks and feels the same, except some settings/UI are disabled on either device due to the difference of a phone and tablet.

The latest version for Apex can be found here or the Play Store. The reason I link to the apk, is that in order to get the most out of it, you'll want to install it as a system app (cut/paste the apk into /system/app). It'll auto update if you install it as a system app too. This allows all features to work 100%. I have "automatic" grid size enabled in the settings and the homescreen stretches to all corners in landscape and portrait. I tried taking a screenshot of the grid, but it didn't work that well. My results. You can basically use any part of the homescreen. Not sure what issues you're having with it not fitting correctly.

Hope this helps. Cheers.

Originally Posted by hatlesssandman

Jammaster that doesn't really make sense to me it is understandable for dolphin to crash according to ur theory (even though I do have flash on demand setting) but stock browser plays videos via video player not through flash but I have had that crash even more often than dolphin at one moment I will be scrolling reading the web page (mind u not watching flash) and the next my touch screen stops responding at which point I have to use the long press back button to kill browser and a couple of times it hung so badly that I had to kill it via power button and reboot (however that may be due to flash I will keep an eye out for that and post accordingly) but I don't find ur explanation as a viable merely due to the fact that half the time the flash works perfectly and half the time it doesn't and I'm taking about reloading the same websites that it previously crashed on....so if its an issue like hwa wouldn't it crash EVERY time I tried to play flash? Or every time on a particular website? However I have noticed it has improved drastically after installing 7.3.1 it was horrendous on 7.3 just wanting to squash a bug hence bringing up the issue. So no suggestions for a different browser? I'm going to try opera see how that goes

due to the discussion i used the stockbrowser for a while today and its the same here - just freezes once in a while and doesn't respond anymore - obviously too often to be normal.

Originally Posted by JamMasterClay

Ive never heard of that browser before...are you sure that it is compatible with ICS?

yes

Originally Posted by hatlesssandman

Jammaster that doesn't really make sense to me it is understandable for dolphin to crash according to ur theory (even though I do have flash on demand setting) but stock browser plays videos via video player not through flash but I have had that crash even more often than dolphin at one moment I will be scrolling reading the web page (mind u not watching flash) and the next my touch screen stops responding at which point I have to use the long press back button to kill browser and a couple of times it hung so badly that I had to kill it via power button and reboot (however that may be due to flash I will keep an eye out for that and post accordingly) but I don't find ur explanation as a viable merely due to the fact that half the time the flash works perfectly and half the time it doesn't and I'm taking about reloading the same websites that it previously crashed on....so if its an issue like hwa wouldn't it crash EVERY time I tried to play flash? Or every time on a particular website? However I have noticed it has improved drastically after installing 7.3.1 it was horrendous on 7.3 just wanting to squash a bug hence bringing up the issue. So no suggestions for a different browser? I'm going to try opera see how that goes

Flash is not only used in videos...many websites have their entire interface in flash, there are lots of flash advertisements, etc. Just because you're not watching a video doesn't mean that there isn't flash in the website. I can tell you that I've tried the default browser, Chrome, Dolphin, and Firefox, and the only one that didn't crash was Firefox (firefox has no flash support). As has been discussed earlier, chrome has it's own issues which are not flash related (chrome also has no flash support). I also tried Opera and everything using Flash was tinted green, but it did not crash. From my experience when I had issues with my browser crashing it would occur as soon as I tried to scroll in a page with Flash (in a video, advertisement, or anywhere else on the website). If I went to a webpage which I KNOW has no flash, I had no problems. I simply switched flash to on demand and have not had any issues with the browser since then (this was well over a month ago, and I use the tablet every day). I would suggest you use whichever browser you prefer and uninstall flash, and I'd be willing to bet that your problems would go away. The only browser I know of that doesn't work is Chrome, but that has issues with pretty much every device besides the Galaxy Nexus. BTW, if you set flash to on demand, browse through a few website...you'll probably be surprised how often you see the icon for enabling flash content. Many websites are transitioning away from Flash because it is no longer being supported or developed, but it will be a long while before Flash is completely gone.

EDIT: Forgot to address another point. I'm not sure what makes you think the stock browser plays videos via the video player, but you are a bit misinformed. Remember, Flash does not equal video, flash could be anything (like I said, entire websites, ads, most online games). If a video is embeded in a website using flash, then the default browser will play the video with flash just like dolphin. The only time video from a website will play in the video player app rather than the browser is if it was embeded using windows media player, or some other similar method, and again that would be the same in Dolphin or the default browser.

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Originally Posted by danjac

due to the discussion i used the stockbrowser for a while today and its the same here - just freezes once in a while and doesn't respond anymore - obviously too often to be normal.

Like I said, I've been using the TPT for over a month with this port and have had no issues whatsoever with the browser since disabling flash.

Are you using the "Maxthon Android Web Browser" or "Maxthon Web Browser for 10" Tab"? I'll try it on my Galaxy Nexus first to make sure it will work with ICS without any problems, then I'll try it on my TPT and see if I get any crashes.

EDIT: I tested the Tab version on my phone and everything seemed to work fine, however I could not get flash content to load with the other version. I'll load them on my TPT and report back.

EDIT 2: I installed regular Maxthon on my TPT and it worked the same as my GNEX, could not get flash to load, but no crashes. I couldn't find the Tab version in the market on my TPT so I downloased the .apk directly and tried installing it that way. It said installing, but after a few seconds it said application not installed, which I've never seen before. How did you get Maxthon installed, Titanium Backup?

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hey folks,

1. I think we shouldn't hijack this thread and continue an overlong discussion about browsers, flash & cm9. It might be a good idea to open a new thread in 'GENERAL' to discuss it in detail and then report our experiences back to Koshu.

2. At the moment I don't know. I have to go into detail to find out how I installed it, I only see in PLAY that it is not compatible (so the 10' version) with my device although it is also tagged as installed.
But not today, I'm tired