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Thumbs up [Q] Kindle Fire with 6.3 Help with Rooting Please

Hi,
I am a total noob. I don't even know the proper expressions for this whole thing.
So this is my case:
I am outside the US and bought the Kindle Fire with a 6.3 firmware, couple of days ago.
Being curious about what it all can do, created a fake account with a test credit card as I read somewhere in the net.
Then downloaded the KFU 0.9.5 and rooted the device, everything went according to the plan, so I thought.
Then I discovered I had to use something called Market Opener to install other apps. But this Market Opener never worked.
So I found out that I had to change permissions. But this cannot happen as I get that message that adb services can not run in production builds etc. whatever that may mean.
So I downloaded Android SDK, followed the instructions installed it but I still cannot get into the root and change folder permissions. Sometimes it recognizes the device, sometimes not and when it does it tells me the same thing as above.
Then I would need some .apk to do the thing on the device but I cannot install those as I don't have the Market Opener or the Google Play and I cannot get those if I don't have superuser permissions to change things in Folders.
Basically I have been spending the last 3 days in searching the net for answers but to no avail.

So, can someone help me please? What I need to do is being able to install some apps including Market Opener / Google Play and being able to watch Amazon VOD. Is this possible?

Please bear in mind that I have no clue of the specific language, i.e. I don't know what flash is and how to do it nor I know how to do a backup and restore or how to reset everything in the original state.
SO if some of you have the patience to help, please advice me with some noob language so that I can understand.

Thanks in advance for the help that will come
 
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Are you looking to put a custom rom on it or just root? If you're looking to keep Amazon services, you can put MoDaCo's rom on it, which is just like your kindle out of the box with a few extra bells and whistles. There are alot of guides floating around on how to get ADB working. There's an excellent beginners guide in the General section that I highly advise checking out.

Noob terms: if you want to keep the Amazon experience, I reccomend MoDaCo. Look for it in the development fourms.
 
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Are you looking to put a custom rom on it or just root? If you're looking to keep Amazon services, you can put MoDaCo's rom on it, which is just like your kindle out of the box with a few extra bells and whistles. There are alot of guides floating around on how to get ADB working. There's an excellent beginners guide in the General section that I highly advise checking out.

Noob terms: if you want to keep the Amazon experience, I reccomend MoDaCo. Look for it in the development fourms.
Thanks for ur answer.
I have read a lot of guides out there but I seem not to be able to get the ADB working as I always get the message I gave in the original post plus the fact that sometimes it recognizes the device and sometimes not.

I have read the beginners guide which was excellent but without the ADB working there is little I can do I suppose.

As I wrote, I want to play with the device to see what it is able to do and want to use the Amazon VOD if possible. I.e. I would like to be able to use Google Play to get apps on will and still keep the Amazon services. Would that be possible with the MoDaCo staff?

Ok. I downloaded the MoDaCo staff.
Must I reset the kindle to the factory settings before I install that? If yes, how?
And how do I flash it?
 
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Make sure you are in fact rooted.

You seem like you know enough about adb to try the following commands.

adb shell
ls /system/xbin

Look for a file called "su" in the list
Then...

ls /system/app

Look for a file called "Superuser.apk"
A lack of either of these means you're not rooted and may be the source of your problems

If you are trying to change system file permissions through adb...

adb root
adb remount
adb shell chmod blah /blah/blah/yadayada

Just don't literally type "blah /blah/blah/yadayada"

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a factory reset won't really help you because you're basically replacing the operating system. pretty sure all amazon services are working with modaco. to install it, look around for a guide on how to install something called firefirefire (FFF) and TWRP. pretty sure that can all be done with kfu in a couple clicks. then copy the modaco zip onto your kindle, go into the wipe menu and clear out system, cache, dalvik cache, and data (factory reset), then go into install and choose the modaco zip. reboot and you should be set.
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Make sure you are in fact rooted.

You seem like you know enough about adb to try the following commands.

adb shell
ls /system/xbin

Look for a file called "su" in the list
Then...

ls /system/app

Look for a file called "Superuser.apk"
A lack of either of these means you're not rooted and may be the source of your problems

If you are trying to change system file permissions through adb...

adb root
adb remount
adb shell chmod blah /blah/blah/yadayada

Just don't literally type "blah /blah/blah/yadayada"

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Thank you for your answer.
I would gladly follow your advice but the adb does not find my device. I don't know whether this is normal and if I must reboot my PC.
The kfu also gives me an offline status...
 
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a factory reset won't really help you because you're basically replacing the operating system. pretty sure all amazon services are working with modaco. to install it, look around for a guide on how to install something called firefirefire (FFF) and TWRP. pretty sure that can all be done with kfu in a couple clicks. then copy the modaco zip onto your kindle, go into the wipe menu and clear out system, cache, dalvik cache, and data (factory reset), then go into install and choose the modaco zip. reboot and you should be set.
Thanks again for the fast answer. I am impressed!
Doesn't the FFF and the TWRP get installed automatically with the kfu?
 
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its most likely your computer. a reboot might help. if not, how did you install the drivers? are you using a mac or pc? try installing the drivers that came bundled with KFU.

if you're using a PC, go into device manager and see if something about android ADB pops up. if not, it's your drivers.

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Thanks again for the fast answer. I am impressed!
Doesn't the FFF and the TWRP get installed automatically with the kfu?
haha, no problem .
if FFF was installed, you should see a picture of fire in a caution sign or an android logo over the kindle fire logo when you boot it up. if all you see is kindle fire, then you don't have fff. im pretty sure you need fff to get into twrp. if fff is installed, you should be able to hop into fastboot and install twrp if it's not installed yet.
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its most likely your computer. a reboot might help. if not, how did you install the drivers? are you using a mac or pc? try installing the drivers that came bundled with KFU.

if you're using a PC, go into device manager and see if something about android ADB pops up. if not, it's your drivers.
I am using a PC ( a netbook, don't laugh, I'm on vacation!!)
I installed the drivers using the install_bat from the kfu.
In device manager I see Android Phone and underneath Android Composite ADB Interface...
 
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interesting. check my previous post and see if you have FFF installed. adb should be working fine if device manager can find it. if you can, run adb devices into cmd and see if it picks up your kindle. not sure if the stock rom has a development switch in the settings.. if there's an option to enable usb debugging, make sure that is on. if not, just try moving usb ports and running adb devices.

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