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Default Now that we have the SGS3 announcement out of the way...

Now that we have the SGS3 announcement out of the way we need to start pressing our respective carriers (eg. AT&T) to prioritize the ICS updates for our phones.

I feel we need to somehow make it clear to our cellular companies that "timing" updates to coalesce with their marketing strategies is detrimental to the end user and, ultimately, negatively impacts their PR. I think it has become obvious that the prerequisites for their testing to accommodate their unneeded totalitarian constraints on the software is taking too long. Smartphones do not need "Carrier-integrated" programming and there is definitely no need for proprietary restrictions over basic functions like voice-mail and contact lists. This is why the process has been slowed to a crawl, because they decide they need to have control over every aspect of our devices.

Sorry, just felt like ranting.

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Personally to me it doesnt matter that the s3 has quadcore will the note doesnt. I mean it would be nice to have bragging rights. But developers and such havent had the time to fully utilize dualcore and now quadcore is already out. Not much use (sure its great from a tech view) but there are barely any apps that really require such intensive use. My note has handled everything thrown at it, and plus with overclocking to 1.83 lag has been removed from my dictionary. (okay i might be exaggerating a bit , i have had some hiccups but they were very rare). Also as others have stated s3 is mainly software which i really hope the note will get but when? Who knows.. still waiting on ics and premium suite....

And in my opinion the note has and currently is the most beautiful phone i have ever seen. It is what first drew me towards it. It holds an aura of greatness. The display..the screen..the shape. Its like a work of art.
 
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Not that impressed overall. I'm looking at it as an incremental upgrade over the GS2 (but at least much better than iPhone 4S over IP4).
Quad-core is the only real feature that stands out to me as an upgrade. And even that...is it really necessary for phones? I could see the use for tablets.
As many people have said, devs are still trying to fully optimize dual-core phones.

Seems like I'll just hang onto my Note for the time being...and wait until they release a 1080p screen phone that can hopefully be an intl' version that works with at&t LTE in the future.
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Now that we have the SGS3 announcement out of the way we need to start pressing our respective carriers (eg. AT&T) to prioritize the ICS updates for our phones.

I feel we need to somehow make it clear to our cellular companies that "timing" updates to coalesce with their marketing strategies is detrimental to the end user and, ultimately, negatively impacts their PR. I think it has become obvious that the prerequisites for their testing to accommodate their unneeded totalitarian constraints on the software is taking too long. Smartphones do not need "Carrier-integrated" programming and there is definitely no need for proprietary restrictions over basic functions like voice-mail and contact lists. This is why the process has been slowed to a crawl, because they decide they need to have control over every aspect of our devices.

Sorry, just felt like ranting.
Its just business. Just like going to a sporting event and seeing all the banners lace the stadium that have nothing to do with the event but are just advertisments to get the viewer excited and maybe make them go buy a pizza and some soda while watching the game. Think of it like a comercial, you know your not gonna buy everything from watching the commercials but you might see something that interest you enough to buy. The carriers are paid by companies to put some of the software on the devices just like a commercial. They get paid by Namco, EA etc to put demo games on the devices in hopes people buy the full game. Our electronics have basically became advertising tools to squeeze money from us and its cool with me cause thats the American way and I have the choice to replace the rom or just ignore the bloatware.
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What about the rumor that the USA version won't get a quad core processor?
4.8" is close, but I don't think I could go back to a less than 5" screen.
Its not a rumor...it is confirmed

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Sadly, your view applies to only those of us that care about the version of Android that we are running. Basically only those people that root and ROM anyways. Of all of my friends that own Android phones, most of them are clueless as to what version they are running, and could care less. I have more friends with Android phones than friends with iPhones, and only one of them could tell me what version of Android their phone has. To us, yes, the latest and greatest version of software matters. To the general public, they could give a ****. Since we are in the MAJOR minority of Android users, it is very unlikely that we will sway the carriers to upgrade software any faster.

All the carriers care about is making money. If they can release a new phone with software that is marginally better, and add all of their bull**** to it, then sell the phone by telling the average user that it's simply "better" with little further explanation, then they're going to do it. That pushes them to only care about the latest and greatest, because it makes them the most money.

If everybody were like us, it would take something truly revolutionary or amazing to sell each and every phone. When I bought my captivate, it was the best Android for ATT at the time. When I bought my infuse, it had the best screen at the time. When I bought my note, it had the best screen and the spen. Those attributes are what speaks to the average consumer. Also, when I bought my captivate, it had a strong development community started. When I bought my infuse, it was a great phone with promise of a decent development community. When I bought my note, I knew from my previous two Samsung phones that it would have at least decent development, if not awesome development. That is what has kept me loyal to Samsung. Looks matter to the average consumer. Software matters to the informed rooter and ROMer. Since ATT and the other carriers know this, they will continue catering to the average consumer that makes up 90% or more of their market, not us.

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Its just business.....
Yeah, I understand. To a certain extent it makes sense. I just hope that in the long run the majority of consumers will start to be more aware.

Also, while I know we're the minority, I feel that our "voice" is the majority.

I appreciate you guys responding to my rant amicably.

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I think we can pressure whoever we want but it isn't going to change the release dates or the process one iota.

Ultimately, they sold a device with software/firmware that functioned as advertised. These updates and upgrades don't get the general population (which outnumbers the OS freaks/geeks) very hot and bothered. Many people will never execute the upgrade.

I see them ultimately as gravy. While I'd love to see them come faster and all that jazz.. I try not to get too hot and bothered about it.

Ultimately, anything otherwise just angries up the blood with little benefit.
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I think we can pressure whoever we want but it isn't going to change the release dates or the process one iota.

Ultimately, they sold a device with software/firmware that functioned as advertised. These updates and upgrades don't get the general population (which outnumbers the OS freaks/geeks) very hot and bothered. Many people will never execute the upgrade.

I see them ultimately as gravy. While I'd love to see them come faster and all that jazz.. I try not to get too hot and bothered about it.

Ultimately, anything otherwise just angries up the blood with little benefit.
I understand exactly what you're saying. I'm usually the one that says:
"Don't buy a phone unless you feel you can live with it 'as-is' for the entire contract".

Some of my frustration comes from little things like having YP Mobile integrated into the contacts list and having difficulties enabling GV for voice-mail. Or sometimes AT&T decides that the user can't change the "home page" for the browser. And ultimately, I would like to see ICS released so we can get the source code.

Again though, I understand why they do it. I just felt like releasing some steam, that's all. Thanks for the reply.

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