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Digital music is fine if handled appropriately IMO.

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I am an AVID music lover and use my phone for all my listening pleasures. Even in the car as my radio has Bluetooth streaming capabilities. I tried MANY different players and I have never found one better than PlayerPro https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...protrial&hl=en

Playerpro will play ALL types of media including OGG and WMP files. It if you also download the additional DSP pack you have total control via a graphic equalizer. Which has many different settings. PP will also allow you to view song lyrics for the current song you are listening to and it will also pull band pictures as well album art for your entire library. Also, it's completely skinable. I currently have the WMP skin on mine. By far the best Music player in my opnion.

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I like Player Pro too. Nothing in my opinion sounds better than MX Player. I just bought Neutron due to overall sound output and the player capabilities. The convenience of it all. I think DeadBeef sounds slightly better than either of the former mentioned with the exception of MX Player. DeadBeef however suffers from the convenience factor (and UI). Ultimately for me it has become a compromise. So much depends on the players output processing. I do agree Player Pro is very good. I'm still evaluating the Neutron UI. Sound for me is about 8/10. MX Player is a 10 in the sound dept. It fails as an audio player (which it is not anyways). But damn it sounds good!

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Okay I can't take it any longer ha-ha. I've gone back to DeadBeef. Its the best sounding out of the audio players for me. Even though I paid twice somehow for Neutron - once through AT&T and once through my bank (thanks Google) I prefer DeadBeef. Its not MX Player audio, but it is enjoyable. BTW, at the risk of sounding like a snob, I generally will not use effects like EQ or Surround etc. unless the original recording is that way off. So all the DSP effects are not an added bonus. If a player can't sound good on its own legs theres no amount of effect that will satisfy me. Sad but true. I really hope ICS brings something new to the table in regards to audio playback. Gingerbread is better than Froyo so here's hoping!

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Okay I can't take it any longer ha-ha. I've gone back to DeadBeef. Its the best sounding out of the audio players for me. Even though I paid twice somehow for Neutron - once through AT&T and once through my bank (thanks Google) I prefer DeadBeef. Its not MX Player audio, but it is enjoyable. BTW, at the risk of sounding like a snob, I generally will not use effects like EQ or Surround etc. unless the original recording is that way off. So all the DSP effects are not an added bonus. If a player can't sound good on its own legs theres no amount of effect that will satisfy me. Sad but true. I really hope ICS brings something new to the table in regards to audio playback. Gingerbread is better than Froyo so here's hoping!

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All I have at the moment is Apple ear buds. Not the best, but I can easily hear the differences. I can hear the overall sound qualities with just the phone speaker as well. In my 10 speaker car sound system the differences get a little lost. Its an old system and not extremely hi-fi. I haven't done direct comparisons in the car either. Anything sounds acceptable in that environment. Plus figure in road noise. Where I hear the biggest differences besides overall sound is in quiet passages and simple mixes. Vocals too. Take some of Paul Simon"s stuff on Hearts and Bones. Or Supertramp Breakfast in America. Sorry I don't have more current music to site (I do listen to current music). These are just two albums I found quickly that lend themselves to evaluating the sonic qualities. Supertramp is good for the vocals. Most players render those vocals scratchy, squealy and down right annoying. You can hear the breath of Simon's vocals with MX Player. Overall its easy to imagine each and every instrument or vocal occupying its own space as opposed to sounding as one massive wall of sound indistinguishable from each individual origin.

I'm really surprised more people haven't commented on MX Player's sound quality. That's all this thread was really intended to do; solicit comments. I'd really like to see Google/Android raise the bar in this category. Like I said, maybe with ICS?

I have decided to run with DeadBeef as my player. I figured out how to make playlists. Otherwise the entire library gets lumped into one big playlist by song. Not fun navigating that way. I had to add each artist as a playlist. Better that way. It took some time and is not entirely intuitive, but once setup it gets the job done.

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I'm a very avid music listener and I've tried several varying quality headphones with many different players on my phone (now to include MX Player). I will have to say that I too lean toward PowerAmp. MX Player does sound good but it isn't a true music player and will not do, but I will also say that I didn't hear much (if any) difference in the sound of PowerAmp and MX Player. Some file actually sounded better with PowerAmp IMO.

To defend the EQ, the EQ should not be used to compensate for you music but rather your equipment and personal taste. All equipment, be it a phone, mp3 player, headphones, etc., have "flat" spot in their sound signature, the EQ is used to compensate for those. It is an essential audiophile tool, that is why they make EQ's and DSP's.


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I agree EQs can (and should) be used to compensate for equipment. In most cases to remove excess lows or highs. In my experience the tweaking ends up getting out of hand (for me) and while it might sound perfect to my ears one day, it sounds artificial or just wrong the next day. That's just me. On my phone, with and without Apple earbuds I hear a clear distinction in the sound between MX and any other player. I do agree it doesn't make for a straight audio player. Its not intended to be. Thanks for your perspective. Its fun to discuss music. Our ears are all so different. What one hears the other doesn't. Maybe if we switched ears our opinions would be reversed lol. There are no absolutes unless they're measured on paper, but then where's the beauty in that?

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I think people get the wrong idea about EQs sometimes. While you can tweak an EQ to suit your taste, the real idea is to create cutoffs so your equipment sounds "true" all the time. Most speakers come with a spec sheet that tells you what frequencies it's capable of handling, peak watts, and rms (constant watts). If your speaker can only go as low as say -20hz then obviously you want to set your EQ so that it cuts off at -20hz. Most distortion and clipping comes from trying to play freqs that your speakers aren't designed to play. That applies to highs, mids, and lows. Anyways, that's my two cents and I will say, it's nice to just have a decent out of the box player that doesn't just blast noise.
 
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True. Eq's should be used to compensate for a listeners taste's and or the equipment's tendencies. For example, I hade the Senn CX-30 which are bass heavy headphones. I usually toned it down with the eq since it would often overwhelm the rest of the spectrum. When I saved up enough to buy my Shure se535's they have a vitually flat freq response. So i don't touch the eq as everything is already perfectly balanced.
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