Originally Posted by priyana

Huh?
Didn't someone said removing those files us removing boot loader.
And that us recommended when you get a rom you are not sure of.
Now I am confused.

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Don't be confused. He actually wanted to know and deliberately wanted to brick his tab.

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@Ableeker - I really wanted to agree with you, and I really like the term soft-brick. But to put this to rest, I recently ask my uncle in construction business the question: 'Uncle Joe, is there such thing a soft-brick?'
here is the reply, his exact words: 'Do you mean clay?'

still need clarification.
Say, if you get a new ROM base, and you unpack it, and saw boot.bin and Sbl.bin.
What do you do?
In the past, I think roto, chainfire, and is it Darkpal also, said to remove those files so that when you flash it, it won't flash your bootloader if you are already on GB boot loader.

But now, I hear that removing those files are the one that cause bricking.
Which is correct now:
a) remove boot.bin and Sbl to PREVENT bricking
b) remove boot.bin and Sbl to CAUSE bricking

Originally Posted by priyana

still need clarification.
Say, if you get a new ROM base, and you unpack it, and saw boot.bin and Sbl.bin.
What do you do?
In the past, I think roto, chainfire, and is it Darkpal also, said to remove those files so that when you flash it, it won't flash your bootloader if you are already on GB boot loader.

But now, I hear that removing those files are the one that cause bricking.
Which is correct now:
a) remove boot.bin and Sbl to PREVENT bricking
b) remove boot.bin and Sbl to CAUSE bricking

I think you misunderstood his post. He deliberately removed those files on his TAB not in the ROM package.

Hmm... that is what I thought when he first declared he managed to cause the brick by deleting .bin


But check a few post back:
"all you have to do is delete the *.bin files (boot.bin & sbl.bin) from the .tar archive before flashing to get a hard brick"

from TAR.

Gogol1996, can you confirm?

so, as long as we've move from froyo to GB, it is actually safer to delete those *.bin from the GB-stock-safe package? and deleting *.bin from our tab will hard-brick our device?
(and that of course until Gogol1996 confirms it).

I learned a lot this week, it actually feels great.

Hehe.. no, actually.
It is that if you have GB then you don't need to flash bootloader.

All GB bootloaders are signed but not locked (not sure if it is for our tab or for all)
But for Froyo there are some that are signed and locked (hence you heard of older bootloader check and pacther etc.)

It is because of that also, I heard some recommendation, to remove them from the ROM package, since if flashing bootloader and within than short seconds there was interruption, you are bricked.

It's a good piece of news for me. Now I'm feeling more calm: as I understood, even a bricked device can be repaired just with a JIG, doesn't it? Or did I misunderstood everything?

But does it happens with all devices (I mean even Apple and Blackberry), only with Android devices or just with a Galaxy Tab? Because once I heard about a Galaxy S Plus whose owner was forced to get its CPU (or something else) replaced because of a bad attempt to remove the operator SIM lock. And how does a JIG work? Are JIG and JTAG the same thing or not?
Sorry for my questions, don't answer if they're too many. :)

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Originally Posted by Sir Otto

It's a good piece of news for me. Now I'm feeling more calm: as I understood, even a bricked device can be repaired just with a JIG, doesn't it? Or did I misunderstood everything?

But does it happens with all devices (I mean even Apple and Blackberry), only with Android devices or just with a Galaxy Tab? Because once I heard about a Galaxy S Plus whose owner was forced to get its CPU (or something else) replaced because of a bad attempt to remove the operator SIM lock. And how does a JIG work? Are JIG and JTAG the same thing or not?
Sorry for my questions, don't answer if they're too many. :)

Sent from my Galaxy Tab

Not ALL bricked device can be fixed with just 1 method. If you lost your internal SDcard, you'll need to replace that. In theory, BB and Apple, even XBOX and PS can be saved from becoming brick.

Here is more detail if you ant to learn more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1312391

Open it, get the camera out to use this tiny funny thing elsewhere. Than throw it as fast as u can, maybe u beat the record... xD

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@yappoe

Haha, that's lovely! There we have it, an answer from a brick expert! That brings back memories from when I was a lad, the blocks of grey clay, kept wet to keep them from drying out...

Still, that's no problem, we'll just need to adjust...

Uh-oh, flashed the wrong ROM! Oh no, it doesn't boot anymore! It's a clay...

Originally Posted by yappoe

---------- Post added at 04:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:42 AM ----------

@Ableeker - I really wanted to agree with you, and I really like the term soft-brick. But to put this to rest, I recently ask my uncle in construction business the question: 'Uncle Joe, is there such thing a soft-brick?'
here is the reply, his exact words: 'Do you mean clay?'