does this have scale/crop option for hdmi like prime?

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I just purchased an acer a510 and one thing I don't like is it crops the bottom portion of the screen over hdmi. I assume this only happens if the output display is 16:9 which mine is. No tv option will fix this for me.

I did some googling and found an article about an update for the transformer prime:

. Besides that, is the ad hoc support for Ice Cream Sandwich and two new modes for the HDMI interface, crop and scale.

from this link:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/tra...rmware-update/

Too bad this isn't in stock ice cream sandwich but it sounds like asus has added it. I hope they added it for tf300 as well. If so, can someone tell me if it scales properly? In that it retains a proper aspect ratio or does it simply squish the image ensuring it fits but with an incorrect aspect ratio.

Or too bad there isn't a utility to change the resolution/aspect ratio on the actual device. This feature is important enough to me that I may return the a500 for a tf300.

Originally Posted by sark666

I just purchased an acer a510 and one thing I don't like is it crops the bottom portion of the screen over hdmi. I assume this only happens if the output display is 16:9 which mine is. No tv option will fix this for me.

I did some googling and found an article about an update for the transformer prime:



from this link:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/tra...rmware-update/

Too bad this isn't in stock ice cream sandwich but it sounds like asus has added it. I hope they added it for tf300 as well. If so, can someone tell me if it scales properly? In that it retains a proper aspect ratio or does it simply squish the image ensuring it fits but with an incorrect aspect ratio.

Or too bad there isn't a utility to change the resolution/aspect ratio on the actual device. This feature is important enough to me that I may return the a500 for a tf300.

Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2

Originally Posted by jgaf

Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2

On a related note, does this use a type d micro hdmi like the playbook? Thanks

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using XDA

Originally Posted by KindaUndisputed

On a related note, does this use a type d micro hdmi like the playbook? Thanks

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using XDA

This is the one I got and it works great.

Yes the tf300t does have the 2 modes scale and crop. My sucks though since it wont let me change the resolution, its overscanning the display.

Can you please explain on the above? What do you mean it won't let you change resolution. Changing resolution would be an easy fix for ice cream sandwich in general (pick a 16:9 resolution or whatever you need) but afaik that's not possible.

On my acer I have no hdmi option, so I assume it would be considered crop. As in, it displays the correct aspect ratio but the bottom portion (the ui buttons) are cropped. Which is no good for me. I assume scale would scale it so it all fits, but my concern here is how does it scale? Does it squish it and it's the wrong aspect ratio? I don't want that either. What does scale do for you vs crop?

I want to run this device at home on my monitor so this is a deal breaker for me and need to know if the tf 300 will do this. So if you could expand on you answer (or anyone else) I would really appreciate it. Like does scale not show everything for you? Are you outputting to a 16:9 display?

As a side note, I'm certainly not a blackberry fan, but my friend has a play book and it outputs to everything (I saw him try it on various displays) and it just works. And he has numerous aspect ratio scaling options but he said he never needs to tweak cause it always seems to detect the correct aspect ratio. It also has an option to turn off the pb display while outputting to hdmi (I was looking for apps to darken the screen). Hell, I was really impressed that he could pipe a movie out to his tv and still browse the web on his playbook. I'm a fan of android for numerous reasons and not switching, but it's a shame to see the first version of the playbook get all this right from the start and not on android.

I've seen youtube clips of people outputting to displays and not being cutofff, I assume they were 16:10 displays.

If so my options are get a 16:10 display instead (just got this display, really don't want to return it but if I have to maybe so) OR I want to determine if the ASUS solution actually works.

Otherwise, are there any resolution/aspect ratios utilities for ice cream sandwich? I couldn't find any. This shouldn't be up to asus to fix, it should be in stock ics, but if asus is the one that does this right, I'll return this tomorrow.

Originally Posted by sark666

Can you please explain on the above? What do you mean it won't let you change resolution. Changing resolution would be an easy fix for ice cream sandwich in general (pick a 16:9 resolution or whatever you need) but afaik that's not possible.

On my acer I have no hdmi option, so I assume it would be considered crop. As in, it displays the correct aspect ratio but the bottom portion (the ui buttons) are cropped. Which is no good for me. I assume scale would scale it so it all fits, but my concern here is how does it scale? Does it squish it and it's the wrong aspect ratio? I don't want that either. What does scale do for you vs crop?

I want to run this device at home on my monitor so this is a deal breaker for me and need to know if the tf 300 will do this. So if you could expand on you answer (or anyone else) I would really appreciate it. Like does scale not show everything for you? Are you outputting to a 16:9 display?

As a side note, I'm certainly not a blackberry fan, but my friend has a play book and it outputs to everything (I saw him try it on various displays) and it just works. And he has numerous aspect ratio scaling options but he said he never needs to tweak cause it always seems to detect the correct aspect ratio. It also has an option to turn off the pb display while outputting to hdmi (I was looking for apps to darken the screen). Hell, I was really impressed that he could pipe a movie out to his tv and still browse the web on his playbook. I'm a fan of android for numerous reasons and not switching, but it's a shame to see the first version of the playbook get all this right from the start and not on android.

I've seen youtube clips of people outputting to displays and not being cutofff, I assume they were 16:10 displays.

If so my options are get a 16:10 display instead (just got this display, really don't want to return it but if I have to maybe so) OR I want to determine if the ASUS solution actually works.

Otherwise, are there any resolution/aspect ratios utilities for ice cream sandwich? I couldn't find any. This shouldn't be up to asus to fix, it should be in stock ics, but if asus is the one that does this right, I'll return this tomorrow.

I skipped a word in the message you quoted. It was suppose to read My TV sucks.... My problem is that my TV only has two aspect ratios 4:3 and 16:9 so when I connect my Pad to it my display gets cropped on the top and bottom. I have tried researching this around the web and the answer I've gotten is that my TV sucks, since it has no option to do 1:1 or change the scanning options. The scale mode is the full screen with status bar and the crop mode is the display without the status bar.

In the end it depends on the monitor you're going to be using, how it reads the hdmi and the options you have to edit this. I've been trying to find answers to see if somehow I can change the resolution of the 300's output to better fit my TV. So far no luck...

The scale mode is the full screen with status bar and the crop mode is the display without the status bar.

Well I guess my display sucks too as it only has 16:9 or 4:3. Sorry to ask for further clarification but so why doesn't scale mode work for you? That's the option I was hoping to choose. Does everything fit but then it's squished? Crop is all I currently have. Again, I assume a 16:10 display would solve this, but it's funny, googling this and I saw the old ICS announcement and ICS's official resolution is a 16:9 resolution. I dunno, changing the resolution of the display shouldn't be this big a deal. I can't find any utility that does this.

Anyway, still not sure if asus's solution actually fixes this. Even if there was a way to pan the desktop so I could see the button's when I need them, I dunno something.

I have no idea, I'll post some picture of my TV displaying both mode at the end of this post. What I can tell you is that when playing videos the screen resizes correctly, yes weird wild stuff. As far as I can tell Netflix doesn't crop the video, nor does MX Player and CrunchyRoll. I was planning on using this feature for games. As you will see in my pictures when using Scale mode my display gets cropped on the top and the bottom, and when I'm in crop mode my display gets cropped practically every side, more so on the sides.

Like you say there should be an easy way to fix this with an app or something. I've searched the market for solutions, haven't found anything yet. T_T

I just tried a video on CrunchyRoll, just when I selected the video the whole screen shrinked to the correct side, weird, and the video doesn't crop anything I can see the subs perfectly. Hopefully someone will find a solution...

Hey thanks for the pictures I really appreciate that. Hmm, it looks like your crop is almost ok. It's hard to tell if the aspect ratio is being screwed with. I'm just looking where the word 'settings' is in both pictures and noticing that you almost have the buttons on the bottom, so it seems like more is being displayed. I suspect it is squishing it though and not doing a correct aspect ratio change. Hard to tell with just text. If you are curious what it is doing, find an image of a perfect circle and switch between the modes and see if it becomes slightly oval in one or the other.

But I was joking that we have crap displays. Just about all 16:9 displays or 16:10 displays can do one or the other. Like imagine buying a monitor and your nvidia card couldn't push out a 16:9 res and you needed to get a different display. I just looked in my manual and they have various quoted resolutions and a couple are 16:10. If there was a simple way to invoke it in ICS I'd be in business. I wonder though with yours could it actually be your monitor, cause it looks like it's almost correct. Well, I'm looking at the second image that you indicate as crop but I'd have expected that to be scale. On my acer 510, the top, left, & right are perfectly aligned, it's exactly where the menu buttons begin that are missing.

Oh and just to mention, mine is perfect playing movies as well, not just because it's a 16:9 display, but ics over hdmi does different resolutions when a full screen video is launched. Or from what I've read anyway. I wonder if that is true for someone who is doing this on a 16:10 display? Do they just have black borders on 16:9 content or do they still have the ui buttons? I suspect black borders...

I've wasted a better part of a day trying to find a solution and the only solution seems to be get a 16:10 monitor which sucks to put it lightly. I've never mucked with dpi settings and I know some do that if their fonts/gui are too small. I don't know if changing the dpi has any affect on the actual resolution used by the device.

Anyway, if I find out more I'll post it here, even though we currently have different devices, there may be a general solution, but it sounds like it will take an OS update. I was hopeful that asus addressed this issue themselves, but looking at your shots it's hard to know is it always like that or does it work on other displays.

I tried the perfect circle thing and they both looked the same to me.