i hope i get this update soon

Windows Phone and carriers

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Carriers are the biggest hurdle in Windows Phone evolution. Microsoft's mistake is to break a deal with these carrier goons.

USSD message pulling support from the GSM carriers. Like I am a non-US citizen and I am a prepaid subscriber of my GSM carrier. My carrier sends a bill notification at the end of each call (something called stage-2 of USSD in GSM networks)...

So I bought an unlocked ATT handset called HTC 7 Surround from Canada in Jan 2011 and brought it to Asia. Now my old 1994 Alcatel mobile device can show that USSD bill notification and every single handset I know of can show all kinds of USSD notifications and menus... but the new Microsoft Windows Phone device can't? Even Windows Mobile devices can show that... HTC cannot make the mistake, Microsoft cannot miss the GSM's RAW feature.. so it turned out to be Mr. AT&T who will decide the fate of my phone and control all the devices even if they are sold unlocked-off-contract (or payg -> pay as you go).


Secondly, with Windows Phone Mango update they introduced internet-sharing feature which ATT decided to block on my capable OS and capable hardware. I contacted HTC if my device is capable of internet-sharing, they confirmed it does and asked me to request ATT to unlock the feature. That's how it transpired:

Thank you for your reply regarding Internet sharing on your HTC Surround device from AT&T. I will be more than happy to assist you further with that information.
Windows Phone 7 devices that were launched with the Windows 7.5 (Mango) software have Internet sharing capability. Two HTC devices included in this category are the HTC Radar and the HTC Titan. However, Windows Phone 7 phones that received Windows 7.5 in a software update, e.g., the HTC Surround and the HTC HD7, require a further update to enable this capability.
Please also note that in the case of carrier-branded phones, the update must come through the respective carrier.
We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced. Thank you for being part of the HTC community.

After that I posted a request on AT&T forums in May 2012, and its like talking to deaf ears. No reply what so ever!

Now think why would they send me an update? 1) I am not their subscriber. 2) (even if I was their subscriber) I have a first generation device, whereas they are looking at 3rd generation in next few months (if you don't count Tango devices a separate generation). If, however, I pay them for a new handset (say HTC Titan 2), then it's a different story.

Microsoft certainly can make 7.5 customers much happier, but unlocking all the block features of Mango in 7.8 (internet-sharing etc.) along with the new start screen (which is confirmed) and Internet Explorer 10 (which I personally believe would be the last thing Microsoft will skip for 7.8 update)!

You can buy And You know
please review after that

Originally Posted by DanglingPointer

Carriers are the biggest hurdle in Windows Phone evolution. Microsoft's mistake is to break a deal with these carrier goons.

USSD message pulling support from the GSM carriers. Like I am a non-US citizen and I am a prepaid subscriber of my GSM carrier. My carrier sends a bill notification at the end of each call (something called stage-2 of USSD in GSM networks)...

So I bought an unlocked ATT handset called HTC 7 Surround from Canada in Jan 2011 and brought it to Asia. Now my old 1994 Alcatel mobile device can show that USSD bill notification and every single handset I know of can show all kinds of USSD notifications and menus... but the new Microsoft Windows Phone device can't? Even Windows Mobile devices can show that... HTC cannot make the mistake, Microsoft cannot miss the GSM's RAW feature.. so it turned out to be Mr. AT&T who will decide the fate of my phone and control all the devices even if they are sold unlocked-off-contract (or payg -> pay as you go).


Secondly, with Windows Phone Mango update they introduced internet-sharing feature which ATT decided to block on my capable OS and capable hardware. I contacted HTC if my device is capable of internet-sharing, they confirmed it does and asked me to request ATT to unlock the feature. That's how it transpired:



After that I posted a request on AT&T forums in May 2012, and its like talking to deaf ears. No reply what so ever!

Now think why would they send me an update? 1) I am not their subscriber. 2) (even if I was their subscriber) I have a first generation device, whereas they are looking at 3rd generation in next few months (if you don't count Tango devices a separate generation). If, however, I pay them for a new handset (say HTC Titan 2), then it's a different story.

Microsoft certainly can make 7.5 customers much happier, but unlocking all the block features of Mango in 7.8 (internet-sharing etc.) along with the new start screen (which is confirmed) and Internet Explorer 10 (which I personally believe would be the last thing Microsoft will skip for 7.8 update)!

My 1st generation HTC HD7 has internet sharing and it works well on T-Mobile. The holdup for internet sharing on your surround must be AT&T. I have a friend with an Titan that had to add a seperate plan from AT&T in order to enable internet sharing on his phone.

I got my update on my Samsung Omnia 7, but it really doesn't look like anything useful has changed for me.

Originally Posted by zort70

I got my update on my Samsung Omnia 7, but it really doesn't look like anything useful has changed for me.

That's not 7.8 but an intermediate update that fixes a few small things.

I've actually quite recently acquired my Lumia 800 and I'm seriously impressed by the thing. The effort Nokia is putting into it, the solid experience it delivers. Of course it lacks a few "expert' features that Android has, but then again, everything I do on a day to day basis (email/text/call/take+upload pictures/videos/music/games) work a lot better and above all smoother and quicker than most Android devices and Iphones.

I'm looking forward to 7.8 and definately do not consider it a dead platform with all the support and applications Nokia is throwing at the devices. I can still make almost any Android and Iphone owner jealous with my Lumia. Also recently sales of the Lumia series have really picked up a little in my country, as surprising as that may seem.

Hey, do you think the new update will support more languages ? ie RTL?

Tango update (7.10.7883.98) & 7.8 is same Or different

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Tango update (7.10.7883.98) & 7.8 is same Or different
if different then when we will receive the updates
I have updated to 7.10.7883.98 on my samsung AT&T focus by changing to ROG-CA
in the registery. after update i have rested my phone.

will i recevie 7.8 on AT&T-US

Please Revert

...for sure 7.8 will be after the official 8 launch which is scheduled for Sept./Oct., therefore it'll be for Oct./Nov.

Originally Posted by dfulgo

...for sure 7.8 will be after the official 8 launch which is scheduled for Sept./Oct., therefore it'll be for Oct./Nov.

M$ does not seem worried about the time and competition.
They will never understand people's needs ... I think, I will not buy some new WP