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Default Google/Asus Nexus 7 tablet

At this point, I think the Nexus tab deserves at least one thread, since there isn't a forum for it yet. It's important, since it will be an official Google tablet; Asus is making it, so it has distant ties to the Prime. Additionally, it'll have Jelly Bean, so we can talk about that here. Launch for both is only a couple days away.

Let's start with the latest from down under. This, from Gizmodo AU, reportedly off of a Google training document.



http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/06/th...t-the-nexus-7/

"As rumoured, Google’s going to announce a 7-inch, Nexus-branded tablet called the Nexus 7. According to the leak, it’s built by Asus, with a 1.3Ghz quad-core Tegra 3 processor, GeForce 12-core GPU and 1GB of RAM with two different storage variants: 8GB and 16GB.

The Nexus tablet will also feature NFC and run Google Wallet (probably only in the US) and Android Beam.

The screen is an IPS display with a 178-degree viewing angle, running a resolution of 1280 by 800. The device will also sport a 1.2 megapixel front-facing camera. The battery will also give you 9 hours worth of operation.

The 8GB model will set you back $US199 and the 16GB will cost $US249. No word in the document on local prices."

The specs are more beefy than I expected for a value tab--NFC, 9hr batt, 1280x800. Then again, this will have Google's Nexus name on it, so it can't be a completely low-end device. Also, what's cheap has moved down. $200 for a 7" was cheap last year; this year, it's just par. I think Acer, Asus & Co will be able to undercut this with $150-ish tabs.

We tend to equate "cheap" with "poor." What's unique about this tab is that it'll be the first to have the latest Android, it'll be unlocked, and it's just about as fast as the fastest Android tablet available. You just need to have good eye sight is all.
 
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I was expecting bit more storage - 8/16 gigs is bit too small. Otherwise the device is nice.
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Why is this so cheap as opposed to something like the asus transformer 300? I understand the transformer has a bigger screen but hardware wise, they seem fairly similar...

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Why is this so cheap as opposed to something like the asus transformer 300? I understand the transformer has a bigger screen but hardware wise, they seem fairly similar...

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Storage and screen size go a long way in cutting costs.

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i will definitely be getting one. likely the 16gb version. we can expect this to be 100% unlocked and will have developers flocking to this. its low cost and powerful chipset. Also it will carry the Nexus badge.

I think this how this tablet performs will really let us know what's going on with prime and other tegra3 devices. if the I/O of this tablet is stellar, then we know its a driver/software issue. Maybe even jellybean update solves this. so if this is launching with jellybean, we can expect prime updating to jellybean also very soon. I think with this tablet going to be popular with developers, them tinkering with that tablet will ultimately help us prime owners. we already have kernel developers merging new stuff from HTC one X and updated nvidia fixings. It's crazy how much One X developement has blown up. I expect the nexus tablet to be even larger. This Nexus tablet launching will be a good thing for prime/tegra3 device owners. Can't wait.

I guess I might buy this as a present to myself for my birthday if it launches this week. ill be an early adopter of that device also. 7in. form factor means ill carry it most places with me. Accessories/cases need to come out though.

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I think this how this tablet performs will really let us know what's going on with prime and other tegra3 devices. if the I/O of this tablet is stellar, then we know its a driver/software issue.
If you look in the dev section with the motley kernel, it was proven this is pretty much a software issue by replacing the MMC driver code with the recent tegra builds. His not-yet-released alpha kernel improved IO performance, with write speeds as high as 27 MB/s and read speeds greater than 50 MB/s at times.
 
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If you look in the dev section with the motley kernel, it was proven this is pretty much a software issue by replacing the MMC driver code with the recent tegra builds. His not-yet-released alpha kernel improved IO performance, with write speeds as high as 27 MB/s and read speeds greater than 50 MB/s at times.
yeah, I've been checking out the latest prime developments. that's who I was referring to in my post. With that kernel, prime performance will be stellar. I wonder if new jellybean update will have alot of those same changes in it. Anxious to see nexus tablet benchmarks. just to get an idea of where its power lies at compared to other tegra3 devices.

Motley new kernel coming and Androwook new version has me very anxious to finally jump the gun and unlock. testing new Asus builds is the only thing holding me back now.

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I for one don't expect much from Google Nexus 7. Actually... I only have questions for this device...

1. Nexus devices in general aren't exactly million sellers. If we look at the history of smartphone sector, Nexus sales figure fall flat compared to flagship phones from Samsung, HTC, and Motorola.

Nexus devices are geared towards "devs" or in general... "tech/android" geeks. Nexus device doesn't offer anything to casuals. Actually, Nexus devices confuse the "casuals" more than anything....

2. Due to being a Nexus device, I do believe that it'll be popular with devs & the support will be great. Again, however.... I do not believe this will entice APP devs. to actually create apps for Android tablets. The fact that it is 7 in. even makes it worse in my opinion....

When you consider the latest flagship phones nearing 5 in. (some above 5 in.).... most will just opt for their apps to scale up to 7 in.

I think 9.7 or 10in Nexus tablet would have been much more significant....

3. Really glad that Nexus 7 (if true) will be released with Jellybean. However.. Jellybean is.. again.. just Android.

Android's biggest issues is ecosystem & complete lack of content outside of Android. I would have preferred if Google actually focused on ecosystem, content, and playstore....

Or better yet, if they really wanted to jump into h/w business... I would have preferred if Google partnered with Nintendo or something to create a "gaming" console to provide more content.

Google is going after Amazon Kindle & Nook Tablets.... not iPad or even W8. Kindle Fire and Nook Tablets offer far more content within their ecosystem.... & this is the reason why it entices the casuals.

4. My biggest question....

Who the heck will market the device? Will it be Asus or will it be Google? Can make a cheap tablet all they want... but without the right marketing strategy & exposure + content ..... this will all mean nothing.

Samsung marketed their last Nexus phone through commercials & etc.... it still fell short to Galaxy devices in sales figure. If Google do take the rein in marketing this device (I personally don't think Asus has the financial muscle to do so..).... I have to wonder just how far they will push this device to "casual" public. I think Google's marketing will show just how serious & ambitious they are.....
 
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More competition in the "value" 7-inch space. Kindle Fire 2 rumored for July 31, with a cam and physical buttons for controls. DigiTimes in its prior rumor also said 1280x800 res.

Whatever the specs, KFire2 will have to significantly outdo the Nexus 7 to compete. Not only is the Nexus an official Google device, it's also full Android vs KFire's dumbed-down OS. I don't see how KFire2 can pull it off.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33198_7...-soon-as-july/

>8/16 gigs is bit too small

Micro-SD expansion slot should fix that. Multimedia is the main storage hog. For at home, I access my multimedia via wifi. For on the go, stuff goes onto a 32GB card.

>Why is this so cheap as opposed to something like the asus transformer 300

TF300 should hit $300 in the fall, so not too big a diff. As Smurph said, it's screen and battery size. At 9hr rated, Nexus 7 will likely have a 4Ah x 3.4V = 13.6Wh battery, which is a bit more than half the size of the usual 25Wh batt in 10" tabs.

>i will definitely be getting one.

$200 price and lack of competition from Apple/MS will make this a best seller, and will improve app support. I only hope Google can keep improving Android and maintain the momentum, because truth be told, both Honeycomb and ICS were underwhelming. Let's hope Jelly will have some sizzle, and that AOSP will drop in time for devices to get it this year.
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I for one don't expect much from Google Nexus 7. Actually... I only have questions for this device...

1. Nexus devices in general aren't exactly million sellers. If we look at the history of smartphone sector, Nexus sales figure fall flat compared to flagship phones from Samsung, HTC, and Motorola.

Nexus devices are geared towards "devs" or in general... "tech/android" geeks. Nexus device doesn't offer anything to casuals. Actually, Nexus devices confuse the "casuals" more than anything....

2. Due to being a Nexus device, I do believe that it'll be popular with devs & the support will be great. Again, however.... I do not believe this will entice APP devs. to actually create apps for Android tablets. The fact that it is 7 in. even makes it worse in my opinion....

When you consider the latest flagship phones nearing 5 in. (some above 5 in.).... most will just opt for their apps to scale up to 7 in.

I think 9.7 or 10in Nexus tablet would have been much more significant....

3. Really glad that Nexus 7 (if true) will be released with Jellybean. However.. Jellybean is.. again.. just Android.

Android's biggest issues is ecosystem & complete lack of content outside of Android. I would have preferred if Google actually focused on ecosystem, content, and playstore....

Or better yet, if they really wanted to jump into h/w business... I would have preferred if Google partnered with Nintendo or something to create a "gaming" console to provide more content.

Google is going after Amazon Kindle & Nook Tablets.... not iPad or even W8. Kindle Fire and Nook Tablets offer far more content within their ecosystem.... & this is the reason why it entices the casuals.

4. My biggest question....

Who the heck will market the device? Will it be Asus or will it be Google? Can make a cheap tablet all they want... but without the right marketing strategy & exposure + content ..... this will all mean nothing.

Samsung marketed their last Nexus phone through commercials & etc.... it still fell short to Galaxy devices in sales figure. If Google do take the rein in marketing this device (I personally don't think Asus has the financial muscle to do so..).... I have to wonder just how far they will push this device to "casual" public. I think Google's marketing will show just how serious & ambitious they are.....
I know you're a huge Nintendo fan but Google teaming up with Nintendo? lmao I seriously was laughing on that one. I'd rather see Google n Sega team up. Maybe Google has something up their sleeve which this device is geared towards. with it having a tegra3, it will surely be one of Androids top notch gaming tablets. Add in superior multimedia capabilities and although this tablet is cheaply priced, its a powerhouse compared to most other non tegra3 android tablets. Im not looking for it to sell millions although that would be great. Google is projecting it to sell millions. I think it will, Easily. I just want it in as mAny developers hands as possible. as it could ultimately benefit other tegra3 owners with developement info being shared. for example motley using HTC one X info/developement and bringing it into prime kernels. we could always backport from these newer tegra3 devices.

it will be advertised. Once people hear Google themselves came out with a tablet, people will bite on it. especially at this price point. I expect to see commercials showing this after their announcement. From tech sites, to blogs, to t.v., to word of mouth, People will know this tablet exists. That its a 7in. powerhouse, very affordable, and where's the Google name. This is a different ballgame than with nexus phones. there is no other 7in. tablet that even comes close to what this nexus tablet will have and is capable of. although i like 10in.better,I can appreciate the 7in. in being more portable. I'd likely carry it around with me or in my car. Prime can stay in the house

Nexus tablet will be the tablet I won't hesitate to flash roms on and dive into developement scene with. I'm thinking I might even buy my father one. it would be his first tablet. he loves his evo, so I'd know he would love this tablet. this tablet and future ones coming out will be cheap enough to be stocking stutters for holiday season.

I'm most interested in jellybean releasing on prime. I have a feeling it might be sooner than later(keep your fingers crossed).

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