From what I've heard, it's been linked directly to the flickering screen problem. Which could mean that the first batch of One X's have all faulty Soc's? I mean, it's not uncommon for there to be manufacturing difficulties for the first few batches, but this is just absurd.
It's not screen flickering, which is likely the result of odd voltage regulation in the software, but screen corruption.
First few batches of the UK models had bad screen flickering, which you're right, was most likely caused by odd voltage regulation which I've been told has caused my motherboard to short out. So, as much as the situation isn't "Oh the screens flickering, must be the Soc failing", it's a matter of the Soc being set up incorrectly and causing it to fail on some phones. I've come across a lot more posts regarding this issue, and they've all had the screen flickering issue, it can't just be a crazy coincidence that this is happening.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't gain anything by posting here. I've already moved on, and I'll be fine. What the purpose of this thread is for people to identify early signs that this may happen to them and quickly resolve it before it escalates like in mine and many others situation. I'm not here claiming i know it all, but what i do know from what I've been told from service centers around australia, this isn't a once off issue.
But of course, if you don't think you have anything to worry about, then ignore the issue this thread and hope for the best.
What BenPope's reacting to and I second is the way you're leaping to conclusions and over dramatizing the issue. Here are some of your quotes:
"This isn't just with some devices either, it seems like anyone that has had the screen flickering issue are at risk of this."
"I'm so sorry all of you are going through this, but i think we need to raise awareness of this issue. People are buying these phones without realizing there's a good chance they're going to have either bad WiFi antenna's or even a bad motherboard."
"From what I've heard, it's been linked directly to the flickering screen problem."
"Send this to your friends, post it around, contact HTC."
"I'll be posting more information as it develops."
You have absolutely no idea how many devices are affected, going to be affected, what the cause is, what if anything it's related to, and whether it's h/w or s/w. There’s no basis for your assumptions. And using terms like "from what I've heard" doesn't add to your credibility. When the early updates were released to address the screen flickering and distortion the vast majority of devices were fine afterwards. Assuming their all running the same s/w, it points to a h/w problem. It could have been there from day one and was aggravated by something or it could be a newly developed fault caused by a component failing. I’ll openly admit that those are my guesses. There are certainly not enough instances of this for you or anyone else to be able to draw any conclusions. If it is or becomes a big issue people will say so without you having to create the hysteria and paranoia this whole thread reeks of. That includes "reserved" and "bump" posts. To me it seems more like you’re seeking your 15 minutes of fame than throwing a potential issue out for assessment and discussion. And if you stop bumping your own thread and it ends up on page five that’s the answer to the question as to how serious this issue is. Based on the course this thread's taking I'm sure the mods will be monitoring it.
As for the warranty being void for unlocking the bootloader that's an excellent warning. In some regions HTC is charging for repairs even for defects not related to the bootloader. Whether it's right, moral, or legal is irrelevant. If they refuse to cover a repair under warranty you either pay them to fix your phone or pay them to send it back unfixed. Afterward you can pursue the help of watchdogs, government bodies, and third parties available regionally. I warn friends about this policy and tell them bluntly if they’re not prepared to pay up to cost of replacing their phone if something happens they should buy an SGS3 instead.
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And I just noticed this in your signature. Pretty much confirms my 15 minutes of fame assumption.
What BenPope's reacting to and I second is the way you're leaping to conclusions and over dramatizing the issue. Here are some of your quotes:
"This isn't just with some devices either, it seems like anyone that has had the screen flickering issue are at risk of this."
"I'm so sorry all of you are going through this, but i think we need to raise awareness of this issue. People are buying these phones without realizing there's a good chance they're going to have either bad WiFi antenna's or even a bad motherboard."
"From what I've heard, it's been linked directly to the flickering screen problem."
"Send this to your friends, post it around, contact HTC."
"I'll be posting more information as it develops."
You have absolutely no idea how many devices are affected, going to be affected, what the cause is, what if anything it's related to, and whether it's h/w or s/w. There’s no basis for your assumptions. And using terms like "from what I've heard" doesn't add to your credibility. When the early updates were released to address the screen flickering and distortion the vast majority of devices were fine afterwards. Assuming their all running the same s/w, it points to a h/w problem. It could have been there from day one and was aggravated by something or it could be a newly developed fault caused by a component failing. I’ll openly admit that those are my guesses. There are certainly not enough instances of this for you or anyone else to be able to draw any conclusions. If it is or becomes a big issue people will say so without you having to create the hysteria and paranoia this whole thread reeks of. That includes "reserved" and "bump" posts. To me it seems more like you’re seeking your 15 minutes of fame than throwing a potential issue out for assessment and discussion. And if you stop bumping your own thread and it ends up on page five that’s the answer to the question as to how serious this issue is. Based on the course this thread's taking I'm sure the mods will be monitoring it.
As for the warranty being void for unlocking the bootloader that's an excellent warning. In some regions HTC is charging for repairs even for defects not related to the bootloader. Whether it's right, moral, or legal is irrelevant. If they refuse to cover a repair under warranty you either pay them to fix your phone or pay them to send it back unfixed. Afterward you can pursue the help of watchdogs, government bodies, and third parties available regionally. I warn friends about this policy and tell them bluntly if they’re not prepared to pay up to cost of replacing their phone if something happens they should buy an SGS3 instead.
And I just noticed this in your signature. Pretty much confirms my 15 minutes of fame assumption.
It's not that i just want fame or anything, i couldn't care if 1 or 100 people see this..
Actually that's a lie. I want a lot of people to see this, I want a lot of people to know that HTC will deny them warranty for whatever reason they can conjure up. I want a lot of people to know that there are people out there with One X's that have spontaneously stopped working.
My opinion on everything here is bias as HTC dragged me through the mud with this warranty thing, and they just don't send back the phone, they add insult to injury and charge you for it.
I might lose credibility here, but I'm only 17 and saved for months for this phone. Then after being told where to go by HTC, i began researching everything about this device. I called 4 different service centers to see if they could tell me what is wrong, and they all gave me the same answer. This happens, motherboard is shorting out, sorry.
So i posted up on a few sites, asking what their experience was with broken motherboards in phones, as it seemed odd.. Then a few more people came forward with the same issue i had.
That's when i decided to make a thread about it. Hey, it might of been a long shot, and i'm probably over my head with all this, but i wanted people to know my experience and what people have told me.
I never said it was right, and if anyone was to come forward and say, "You're an idiot, just hold down the power button." I would gladly take that on and change my whole stance on the situation. But we don't know anything, all we know is that the soc is failing in some devices. There's no solid evidence, except for the fact we've all got the screen flickering issue in common and it really seems logical to tie the two together since that thread also has people complaining of screen corruption.
...I understand your plight. Just stop with the exaggerations. "we've all got this flickering problem" is simple not true.
Unless "we" is the small subset of people with flickering issues.
Don't get me wrong, when I was your age, I spent 450 quid on a Sony 19" CRT, it did 1600x1200@75Hz, I saw the flickering at below 72Hz, but the main problem was misaligned RGB guns, I sent back 4 of them before they sent me the model up, which, could not only do 85Hz, but the guns were much better aligned. I'm picky, I expect stuff to work, especially when it's expensive/top of the range.
Just stop with the exaggeration. The set of people complaining in a complaints thread is just not representative of the population.
Actually that's a lie. I want a lot of people to see this, I want a lot of people to know that HTC will deny them warranty for whatever reason they can conjure up. I want a lot of people to know that there are people out there with One X's that have spontaneously stopped working.
And there it is. Your motive revealed. This crusade is about your personal issue with HTC over their warranty policy. For the record, I think it's a stupid and arbitrary policy. But it's HTC's policy to set. Don't like the policy? Don't buy their phones. Asus and soon Motorola have the same policy. Asus is even stricter than HTC. The ability to enforce these policies varies by region but in the U.S. Asus Prime owners did everything they could including spam campaigns, online petitions, and some lawyers on their forum sent letters invoking Magnusson-Moss (our warranty protection act) to try and get the policy overturned. Asus never responded and didn't budge. You should expect the same result with HTC.
Trying to sensationalize an issue to further your own cause is pretty uncool.
And there it is. Your motive revealed. This crusade is about your personal issue with HTC over their warranty policy. For the record, I think it's a stupid and arbitrary policy. But it's HTC's policy to set. Don't like the policy? Don't buy their phones. Asus and soon Motorola have the same policy. Asus is even stricter than HTC. The ability to enforce these policies varies by region but in the U.S. Asus Prime owners did everything they could including spam campaigns, online petitions, and some lawyers on their forum sent letters invoking Magnusson-Moss (our warranty protection act) to try and get the policy overturned. Asus never responded and didn't budge. You should expect the same result with HTC.
Trying to sensationalize an issue to further your own cause is pretty uncool.
And also Samsung's official policy is that devices which have flash counter > 0 are also out of warranty.
@OP if your HOX is useless this way maybe you can find a way to brick it so hard HTC won't be able to tell anymore that the bootloader was unlocked
The first thing they do is search your IMEI number on the dev database to see if you've unlocked your phone. Which in that case, they've already categorized you as someone that will be denied warranty. At least, that's what the process was in my situation. I know that it says that unlocking your bootloader may void your warranty, but i was under the impression that's if you overclock it, or brick it which neither happened in my case.
If i knew all of this beforehand, i wouldn't of purchased their phones. Although I will acknowledge that i did sensationalize the problem in a couple of my last replies, but it doesn't make the issue nonexistent.
Personally i won't buy another phone from HTC since i've learned and ultimately been through all of this, which has influenced this thread a lot. I know it's going to seem smartass-ish but i really am sorry again for the exaggeration.
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