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Default Microsoft Surface available October 26

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/32...e-october-26th

Surface for RT is coming at the same time as general release of Windows 8. Surface Pro will be available 90 days after. Like I've been guessing, RT will be priced competitive with comparable ARM tablets, which should mean it will be around $499. Pro will be priced like an Ultrabook, which should mean $899 at least, and could go even higher. Anyone going to start saving up now that we have a release date?
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Saving for the ~$1K expected price of the Pro.
 
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can't wait for the Pro version...

But i wonder: why 90 days after? i mean, it's the best way to loose market share. Or perhaps, microsoft want to give OEM some weeks to announce products?
btw, i wonder alswo why OEM are not communicating about products based on Windows 8 currently

I love the design, and i love the idea to be able to work on a tablet, but really work: i mean with real softwares (visual studio for exemple, or even office) and not "kiddies" software as we can find on Ipad and Android based tablets...
That's why i didn't bought any tablets, waiting for a real computer.

(sorry for my english, if there are mistakes, keep in mind i'm french, and french poeple don't speak well foreign languages :-p )
 
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Maybe 90 days will see some Win 8 updates that could help the functionality?
 
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Maybe 90 days will see some Win 8 updates that could help the functionality?


what functionality is broken?
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btw, i wonder alswo why OEM are not communicating about products based on Windows 8 currently
I have also been wondering why we haven't heard anything yet about Windows 8 products from the OEMs. I'm most interested in Windows 8 laptops, since I'm hoping Microsoft will push the OEMs to start delivering better hardware-no more 1366x768 displays, better trackpads, better keyboards, etc. Obviously October 26th is when new Windows 8 products begin rolling out, so we should have some announcements from the OEMs in September, maybe we'll hear rumors and specs of devices as early as late August.
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I have also been wondering why we haven't heard anything yet about Windows 8 products from the OEMs. I'm most interested in Windows 8 laptops, since I'm hoping Microsoft will push the OEMs to start delivering better hardware-no more 1366x768 displays, better trackpads, better keyboards, etc. Obviously October 26th is when new Windows 8 products begin rolling out, so we should have some announcements from the OEMs in September, maybe we'll hear rumors and specs of devices as early as late August.


they don't want to detract from current sales?

no need in shooting themselves in the foot!
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they don't want to detract from current sales?

no need in shooting themselves in the foot!
Good point. Ultrabooks just haven't been as popular as the OEMs have hoped, and anyways a few new Windows 7 laptops are yet to come out (HP Envy Spectre XT). People will be buying 7 laptops less and less as Windows 8 draws near and it's in the press more, so they'll probably wait until they're satisfied Windows 7 laptop sales have bottomed out before introducing Windows 8 laptops.
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Good point. Ultrabooks just haven't been as popular as the OEMs have hoped, and anyways a few new Windows 7 laptops are yet to come out (HP Envy Spectre XT). People will be buying 7 laptops less and less as Windows 8 draws near and it's in the press more, so they'll probably wait until they're satisfied Windows 7 laptop sales have bottomed out before introducing Windows 8 laptops.
nope, i dont agree: oem can announce products on Windows 7 and argues that these products will be compatible to W8, with a free upgrade.
Previous devices:
- HTC TYTN 2
- HTC Touch Pro
- HTC HD2
- LG Optimus 7

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- Nokia Lumia 800 (black)

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nope, i dont agree: oem can announce products on Windows 7 and argues that these products will be compatible to W8, with a free upgrade.
I think my point still stands. Would you rather have a device that comes with Windows 8 or one that you can upgrade to Windows 8? I feel more confident in a device built for Windows 8, that it will run it better and just "fit" more properly with the OS. Whether or not that's the truth, it's how general consumers would think too. And I still believe that Windows 8 hardware will be more impressive than Windows 7 hardware. If a huge part of Windows 8 is trackpad improvements, I would think that the OEMs can build a better trackpad when they have Windows 8 to work with (rather than build a trackpad when they only have 7 to work with, and "hope" that the upgrade to Windows 8 will make the trackpad as impressive as a device that is built with Windows 8). Along with the fact that MS is obviously now telling the OEMs to get their crap together (Surface), I think we have solid reason to believe that hardware will be much improved with Windows 8-stock devices.

Think of an Android analogy: all specs aside, would you rather have a device that ships with Jelly Bean, or one that ships with ICS and can be upgraded later for sure? Yeah, with the ICS device, you know that you will be able to get JB, and you know that it will bring some considerable improvements, but isn't it just kind of an inherent thing to prefer the one that comes with JB in the first place?
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