Hardware programming Kin Two? And Kin Two to Kin Two(m) conversion?

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Hey guys,

I know Verizon, Sharp, and Microsoft want us to think Kin Two is dead. I've been browsing these forums for a while. Remarkable efforts on your parts..

I'm an electronics guy by hobby. Nothing serious. My Kin ONE(m) suffered the rebooting modem problem and never recovered. I tore it apart. I accidently killed the power supply section...boohoo, but I'm wondering what exactly the hardware limitation was that we couldn't get much to happen between Kin and PC. I heard someone said there was some sort of chip that blocked any 3rd party communication.

I have no actual electronics education but I've been teaching myself for a couple of years. None of these devices are really "locked" I don't think. I don't think a USB programming interface will do the trick. I don't think they were programmed via USB in the factory. I'm looking at the iFixit Kin TWO teardown photos and I'm trying to find an ICSP header. I see two places on the board where there are 4 contacts in a row. These potentially could be SPI or JTAG headers. I'm not a programmer by nature, though I can do some, but I think using those headers would give you direct access to processor/memory. I'm not sure what is the restricting agent right now, but that's as hardwired as you can get.

Again, I'm no professional....BUT, if you do want some people that do have electrical engineering degrees and that are reeally helpful with all things hardware/software/electronics I'd stop over the EEVBlog Forums. eevblog.com/forum/. Go in General Chat or in Microcontrollers. The people in Microcontrollers will have a better programming background but everyone goes in the General Chat so either one.

I think they will really be able to help. They aren't really hackers, but a hell of a lot of knowledge there. The forum owner is an electrical engineer. There is atleast 5 other EEs that frequently post of the forums and they don't treat anyone bad. Tons of really smart people and it's a very active forum. Just sell it to them and you'll have 20 posts on your thread in one evening.

If you guys are still interested, I am still interested in doing something with this phone.

On another note, there's no way to get Kin Two(m) software onto a Kin Two phone is there? I don't think so, but it gets rather annoying having to skip the setup everytime I turn it on etc.

Thanks and good luck.

By the way these are the HARDEST captchas I have ever had in my life. A

Originally Posted by FenderBender11

Hey guys,

I know Verizon, Sharp, and Microsoft want us to think Kin Two is dead. I've been browsing these forums for a while. Remarkable efforts on your parts..

I'm an electronics guy by hobby. Nothing serious. My Kin ONE(m) suffered the rebooting modem problem and never recovered. I tore it apart. I accidently killed the power supply section...boohoo, but I'm wondering what exactly the hardware limitation was that we couldn't get much to happen between Kin and PC. I heard someone said there was some sort of chip that blocked any 3rd party communication.

I have no actual electronics education but I've been teaching myself for a couple of years. None of these devices are really "locked" I don't think. I don't think a USB programming interface will do the trick. I don't think they were programmed via USB in the factory. I'm looking at the iFixit Kin TWO teardown photos and I'm trying to find an ICSP header. I see two places on the board where there are 4 contacts in a row. These potentially could be SPI or JTAG headers. I'm not a programmer by nature, though I can do some, but I think using those headers would give you direct access to processor/memory. I'm not sure what is the restricting agent right now, but that's as hardwired as you can get.

Again, I'm no professional....BUT, if you do want some people that do have electrical engineering degrees and that are reeally helpful with all things hardware/software/electronics I'd stop over the EEVBlog Forums. eevblog.com/forum/. Go in General Chat or in Microcontrollers. The people in Microcontrollers will have a better programming background but everyone goes in the General Chat so either one.

I think they will really be able to help. They aren't really hackers, but a hell of a lot of knowledge there. The forum owner is an electrical engineer. There is atleast 5 other EEs that frequently post of the forums and they don't treat anyone bad. Tons of really smart people and it's a very active forum. Just sell it to them and you'll have 20 posts on your thread in one evening.

If you guys are still interested, I am still interested in doing something with this phone.

On another note, there's no way to get Kin Two(m) software onto a Kin Two phone is there? I don't think so, but it gets rather annoying having to skip the setup everytime I turn it on etc.

Thanks and good luck.

By the way these are the HARDEST captchas I have ever had in my life. A

I dont think this can help us very much considering were having problems with software hacking not hardware. I dont think they can help us, but mabye we should have Johnkussack look into this. Hes kinda our lead if you will.

Originally Posted by WEM97

I dont think this can help us very much considering were having problems with software hacking not hardware. I dont think they can help us, but mabye we should have Johnkussack look into this. Hes kinda our lead if you will.

You have clearly never used a USB jug to un brick a phone, got s off on a HTC vivid or used a factory data cable on a Droid RAZR. They all use hardware too access our bypass software. So this good work out couldn't but there may be something here. Obviously plugging it into the computer and doing the same thing over and over isn't though.

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