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I installed the 4x5 with scrolling after I flashed this rom, I317_N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow Control...
Just want to make sure I understand this...

You have a n7105 firmware installed on your phone, and you downloaded one of the apk's I modified from an i317 firmware and installed it on your device (instead of following the simple instructions provided for doing the mod yourself) and now something is broken. Is that correct?

And now you want someone else to tell you how to fix it?

One more question... did you do a backup first? If so, please restore it.

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Just want to make sure I understand this...

You have a n7105 firmware installed on your phone, and you downloaded one of the apk's I modified from an i317 firmware and installed it on your device (instead of following the simple instructions provided for doing the mod yourself) and now something is broken. Is that correct?

And now you want someone else to tell you how to fix it?

One more question... did you do a backup first? If so, please restore it.

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First off, Just because I only have 13 posts on this forum doesnt give you the right to come at me like a all knowing jerk off...

Second, The rom I have on my phone is a ported rom for the i317, so yeah. I didnt go off and flash a N7105 Stock rom on my phone.

I didnt "Break" anything on my phone. All I said was that after I installed the 4x5 launcher the multi window wouldnt work. So my phone is still working other than that. So the only thing I asked was if anyone else experienced it, and if so, did they figure out how to fix it. The 4x5 mod itself is working great otherwise.

Finally, Were you really being condescending by saying, "instead of following the simple instructions provided for doing the mod yourself?" Really? Because dont those APK's do the same thing as doing it yourself?
 
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First off, Just because I only have 13 posts on this forum doesnt give you the right to come at me like a all knowing jerk off...
I didn't look at your post count (or any other stat.) Just your post... I also wasn't a jerk (yet.) I just wanted to confirm the obvious before I started being a jerk. However, being you were nasty in your answers (jerk?), I'll be happy to respond.

You see, as with a previous post in this thread (by someone else), you've insulted my efforts.

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Second, The rom I have on my phone is a ported rom for the i317, so yeah. I didnt go off and flash a N7105 Stock rom on my phone.
Actually, its a n7105 firmware modified to work on a tmobile T889 and with build.prop mods to work on the i317. (It tells you all that on the OP for the firmware you downloaded.) You did, in fact, flash a n7105 firmware. That, by itself, isn't the problem. Not at all...

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I didnt "Break" anything on my phone. All I said was that after I installed the 4x5 launcher the multi window wouldnt work.
If it doesn't work, then its broken. The following is from dictionary.reference.com when looking up the definition of "broken" : "not functioning properly; out of working order." So, if multi-window doesn't work, then its... BROKEN. Hence, something is broken on your phone.

(This is where I get sarcastic..) These are simple concepts. If simple definitions aren't working for you, then the OP instructions might be beyond your grasp.
(Okay - no more sarcasm)

However, broken or not is besides the point. I didn't upload those apk's for people to blindly download and shove on their phone without a clue what they are doing. Here's a quote from myself on page 1:
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I think you misinterpreted the purpose of this thread. It's NOT a thread where someone does something for you. It's a thread where I get people to do something FOR THEMSELVES and encourage them to share how to do things.
I'll give you some ideas: Don't take something prebuilt from a i317 stock firmware and expect it to work on a firmware ported from a different platform. If you try it anyway (which is fine) and it doesn't work, don't post on the thread about it.

Finally, if someone takes the time to make sure you have the directions to do the mod YOURSELF, then take the 20 minutes it takes to LEARN SOMETHING and DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF before wasting bandwidth on the forum.

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I have a very serious question... no sarcasm whatsoever...

I wrote this post (as well as the CSC one, and I'm preparing another for kernel compiling) to try and help people do their own mods so they aren't dependent on others, so they can learn and so on.

Is this attempt of mine misguided? Does everyone really prefer to just take whatever someone else gives them without learning anything?

(If so, I won't waste my time writing HOWTO things... I'm a developer, not a teacher, and trying to explain things to other people is very stressful for me.)

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Nice work, keep it up. .

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I have a very serious question... no sarcasm whatsoever...

I wrote this post (as well as the CSC one, and I'm preparing another for kernel compiling) to try and help people do their own mods so they aren't dependent on others, so they can learn and so on.

Is this attempt of mine misguided? Does everyone really prefer to just take whatever someone else gives them without learning anything?

(If so, I won't waste my time writing HOWTO things... I'm a developer, not a teacher, and trying to explain things to other people is very stressful for me.)
Well sometimes when I am completely busy with things going on in my life I will just grab and APK and run with it, and teach myself later if I have the time. I do want to apologize for coming across like a moron earlier, I am not a developer and wish I knew half the things that some of you know. I am a hothead sometimes and am still new to the android community and coming from the world of iPhones, I have dealt with a ton of condescending morons. Again I apologize.

But one thing I want to know, and not trying to be nasty. But, if someone runs into a problem after following your tutorial or how to, where are they supposed to ask to see if anyone else has run into a similar issue? Would you rather the forums filled with pointless threads asking the same questions, or should they ask in the thread that contains the how to or tutorial in the first place? Because in my original posted question I was looking to see if anyone else was using the same ported rom I was and if they ran into the issue.
 
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But, if someone runs into a problem after following your tutorial or how to, where are they supposed to ask to see if anyone else has run into a similar issue? Would you rather the forums filled with pointless threads asking the same questions, or should they ask in the thread that contains the how to or tutorial in the first place? Because in my original posted question I was looking to see if anyone else was using the same ported rom I was and if they ran into the issue.
If someone posted "I'm trying to apply this same change to the launcher from XYZ firmware and I'm having problems", I'd likely ask them to revert their launcher from backup, and redo the modification, but this time log each step taken and post the steps in this thread.

My purpose in doing that would be twofold. First to enable you, had you recording the steps while doing them, to find any mistake you might have made the first time. You might have skipped a step the first time accidentally, and by recording them as you do them, you'd fill in that missing step. (When I follow instructions and have errors, I find that when I do this exercise, the problem will go away.)

Secondly, to enable me to see the steps you performed to verify them AND to repeat those same steps (as you would have recorded them - not from the original instructions) on my own side to see if I get different results. Sometimes a subtle change will result in dramatic differences.

If you still had the problem after doing the mod while recording the steps, how I would approach the issue would be dependent on if I had the same issue when following your steps, if you had the same problem (or a different problem), if I had a problem (but a different one from what you had) and so on. At that point, I'd have to play it by ear. I might also go to the person who posted the firmware your basing on and ask them to offer some assistance.

On the other hand, this is one of the more trivial changes that mostly works across MANY versions of the 4.x touchwiz launcher, so I wouldn't expect any problems. I would certainly expect compatibility issues, however, if mixing different firmware versions.

Here's one that might amuse you: If I take the SecLauncher2.apk from the n7100 firmware (DBT released - not a leak) and framework-res.apk from the same firmware, I can perform this change and install it on a i317 and it works. However, being the i317 doesn't have multi-view, that doesn't "break."

Your experience seems to indicate that "multi-view" has a dependency in SecLauncher2.apk... I wonder what would happen if a person with a multi-view capable firmware were to install nova launcher and actually DELETE SecLauncher2.apk. Would that also break multi-view? (I don't have my n7100 anymore, so can't test that.)

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I have a very serious question... no sarcasm whatsoever...

I wrote this post (as well as the CSC one, and I'm preparing another for kernel compiling) to try and help people do their own mods so they aren't dependent on others, so they can learn and so on.

Is this attempt of mine misguided? Does everyone really prefer to just take whatever someone else gives them without learning anything?

(If so, I won't waste my time writing HOWTO things... I'm a developer, not a teacher, and trying to explain things to other people is very stressful for me.)
Nooooooooo, dont stop now! Im using all your guides. Working on my own rom, mostly for my use and entertainment. If it turns out stable enough I may post it one day. Maybe.

Keep up the good work Gary

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Nooooooooo, dont stop now!
Not stopping, just wondering if it matters. I appreciate that there are at least a few people who are here to learn.


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Must learn. Its a good Dev requirement. I neeeeeeeeed to leatn or ill get board and break something. Then learn to fix it lol. Keep the great how to threads comming.

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