How did you work out which is pin 6? Was it marked etc?
No markings on mine, I just started numbering them as I noted them down (left to right), however i didn't follow standard pin mapping, and think i have noted them in reverse order
The following should be standard numbering. (if Samsung release a spec or diagram of the plug :P )
Here are the images as promised.
Smart dock pins:
Pin 1 - Vcc
Pin 2 - USB - (Slave)
Pin 3 - USB + (Slave)
Pin 4 - ID/Sense (40.2K Ohm)
Pin 5 - Gnd
Pin 6 - ? (Audio/USB host?)
Pin 7 - ? (Audio/USB host?)
Pin 8 - DP (MHL +)
Pin 9 - DN (MHL -)
Pin 10 - MHL ID (connected to ID Pin of MHL Adapter)
Pin 11 - Gnd
---------- Post added 6th February 2013 at 12:37 AM ---------- Previous post was 5th February 2013 at 11:42 PM ----------
After watching a review of the smart dock, in which the S3 is said that USB doesn't work in dock mode, and along with the Note 2 working with PC Docking. I can only assume that the data has to be on the pins 6 & 7.
The next step is identifying the polarity of them, luckily D+ & D- both can take 3.3v (used as ID for USB 1.0 or 1.1) nothing should be damaged if the polarity is incorrect.
The next issue is connecting all of the wires to the USB pins at once. I can't connect all of the wires to the 0.3mm pins, and expect them to not come loose or short. The only solution that i can think of is to etch a breakout PCB for it. Hopefully it will arrive soon, Unfortunately my first board was way too thick for the plug.
Normally when i need to connect to small pins like these, I use Kynar wire, as it is so small and single core. However when usb host didnt work, i assumed that it was because the cable had to much noise, so i changed to normal USB cable (which also didn't work)
The socket is interesting, it looks like they surface mount it, unlike the plug that i have, which mounts on the side of the circuit.
Have you seen anybody selling the plugs cheap, and in low quantities? the only place i can find is alibaba, and i have to buy a few hundred
Excuse the rough edges, I through together a breakout board for the plug, so that i can easily access all of the pins, and secure the cable in place.
I made a quick sketch on a PCB and etched it. Not quite figured out how to print them yet.
---------- Post added 7th February 2013 at 12:36 AM ---------- Previous post was 6th February 2013 at 11:53 PM ----------
I just powered it up, and gave pins 6 & 7 a try with a memory stick connected, unfortunately there was no response from android, it also didn't see a mouse.
not sure why it doesn't detect, maybe there is too much interference, or the pins just aren't usb.
anyway, i will dig out my osciloscope, and start testing the pins to see what data they are trying to send.
I may end up having to purchase the smart dock to see what makes it tick.
Thats the exact same reason that I have been trying to make one.
I have the lapdock ready and waiting to be modified. If you need any info on the lapdock's USB and HDMI connections, have a quick look at "RaspberryPi Lapdock"
I hope that you get your smartdock soon. Im Looking forward to your input.
Doesn't USB OTG need a pin shorted to ground? or 100 ohms etc.
USB OTG uses a short between pin 4 & 5. The resistance between these pins "informs" the phone about which accessory is connected.
USB OTG mode, will only activate the USB host function, charge and HDMI are disabled in this mode.
Desk Dock mode, enables HDMI, and Charge, but not USB OTG
Smart Dock mode, enables HDMI, charge, and USB OTG.
Here is a list of (Samsung Galaxy S) resistor values I saved on my computer, I believe I found them on this forum, by "TheBeano"
(list is edited to show more relevant items to the Note 2)
RID_USB_OTG_MODE, GND USB OTG Mode
RID_RESERVED_1, 28.7K Reserved Accessory #1
RID_RESERVED_2, 34K Reserved Accessory #2
RID_RESERVED_3, 40.2K Reserved Accessory #3 (Smart Dock Mode)
RID_RESERVED_4, 49.9K Reserved Accessory #4
RID_RESERVED_5, 64.9K Reserved Accessory #5
RID_AUD_DEV_TY_2, 80.07K Audio Device Type 2
RID_PHONE_PWD_DEV, 102K Phone Powered Device
RID_TTY_CONVERTER, 121K TTY Converter
RID_UART_CABLE, 150K UART Cable
RID_CEA936A_TY_1, 200K CEA936A Type-1 Charger(1)
RID_FM_BOOT_OFF_USB, 255K Factory Mode Boot OFF-USB
RID_FM_BOOT_ON_USB, 301K Factory Mode Boot ON-USB
RID_AUD_VDO_CABLE, 1K or 365K Audio/Video Cable (HDMI/Desk mode/MHL)
RID_CEA936A_TY_2, 442K CEA936A Type-2 Charger(1)
RID_FM_BOOT_OFF_UART, 523K Factory Mode Boot OFF-UART
Car mode, 619K Car mode
RID_AUD_DEV_TY_1_REMOTE, 1000.07K Audio Device Type 1 with Remote(1)
RID_AUD_DEV_TY_1_SEND, 1002K Audio Device Type 1 / Only Send-End(2)
RID_USB_MODE, Open USB Mode, Dedicated Charger or Accessory Detach
Although our mobile devices today are capable of executingnearly every task we normally … more
22 Aug 2014
By Will Verduzco
XDA Developers was founded by developers, for developers. It is now a valuable resource for people who want to make the most of their mobile devices, from customizing the look and feel to adding new functionality. Are you a developer?